which is the hardest pes game ever?

[dokoham]

in my mind i think pes5 is the hardest ever @@

[Spursman]

i think this years one. I used to be really good. Now im just average.

Also whenever i play top players it seems they arent THAT good. Eveyone seems to be beatable when they pick a similar skilled team.

Half the players i play are barca or madrid. If they didnt have ronaldo, messi, villa i would beat them i think.

Im always spurs online.

[Makavelian]

This one!

[Sickdl]

2012 just cheats you so thats whyits harder shame

[Rasmus]

Definetely 2012 because of CPU cheating

[menaceuk]

I think the controls make 2013 the hardest. In terms of getting the most out of it any how.

Games from last gen had rather basic controls.