View Full Version : GTA: San Andreas
wolvesfan15
13-05-2004, 14:35
well they finnaly decide to release screenshots. so if u care too view. there on the gta Sa site
http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas
lookin nice shall i say
Yeah it looks very nice, can't wait
http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/ss/screen01.jpg
Should be good
BazHilder
13-05-2004, 15:11
It looks cool, it's meant to come out around the same time as pes4 but there's loads of stuff on this and none on pes. hopefully we'll get some pics etc soon...
Obviously Rockstar aren't revealing much. Only 3 pictures!
Still looks very good, I'm hoping that the idea of the game is similar to Vice City where you have to build your life from a simple thug to a crimelord. Hopefully this one is set in the present day and not the 80's this time. Although Vice City was very good.
Hopefully this one is set in the present day and not the 80's this time. Although Vice City was very good.
It is set in the early 90's, The main character is called Carl Johnson
"....Five years ago Carl Johnson escaped from the pressures of life in Los Santos, San Andreas...a city tearing itself apart with gang trouble, drugs and corruption. Where filmstars and millionaires do their best to avoid the dealers and gangbangers. Now, it's the early 90s. Carl's got to go home. His mother has been murdered, his family has fallen apart and his childhood friends are all heading towards disaster. On his return to the neighborhood, a couple of corrupt cops frame him for homicide. CJ is forced on a journey that takes him across the entire state of San Andreas, to save his family and to take control of the streets...."
More info:
So. Now we know. San Andreas is NOT Los Angeles, it's a whole state. Los Santos, on the other hand is, to all intents and purposes, LA. The game's two other cities, San Fierro and Las Venturra are based on San Francisco and Las Vegas respectively. There'll be countryside between the three main areas, each of which is roughly the same size as the whole of Vice City. Big, in other words. Overall, the game will be an incredible four to six times the size of its predecessor.
The most significant gameplay changes are a new stamina meter, meaning you need to eat, and massively improved building interiors. You'll be able to commit burglary now, or run a casino in Las Venturra. If you're feeling less ambitious you can just gamble away your ill-gotten gains on the tables in LV.
Brilliantly, improved AI means you can recruit a gang, the Orange Grove Families, and drag members along on missions. Up to four people can complete a drive-by mission, for instance.
-=[101st]=-
16-05-2004, 07:11
wow.. the only decision i have now.. is PS2 or PC.. i think i will be getting it on the PC so i can make it look prettier.. and if it is half the game that Vice City was it will be awesome...
BazHilder
16-05-2004, 10:58
Overall, the game will be an incredible four to six times the size of its predecessor.
Wow, that is quite astonishing. This and pes4 (hopefully) within a week of each other is gonna be quite a time.
indeed, and I think Gran Turismo 4 won't be too far behind them two either (Can someone confirm the release date? I'm not totally sure of it)
Travis Bickle
16-05-2004, 20:50
indeed, and I think Gran Turismo 4 won't be too far behind them two either (Can someone confirm the release date? I'm not totally sure of it)
I thought GT4 was out in june/july this year ? whens pes4 out ? and it looks like someones been on ign for the GTA info, that site pi**es me off a bit 'cause of the advertising, they've really sold out !
Gran Turismo 4 is due out in august, I wasn't exactly sure. That snippet of information about GTA is on a few sites but i originally found it on Games Radar (www.gamesradar.com)
Zoidberg
17-05-2004, 04:01
http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/ss/screen03.jpg
Does this mean we'll get push bikes? I can't wait if it does.
-=[101st]=-
17-05-2004, 08:33
i have heard that yes you can.. personally i can't wait..
Ahem.
Game Informer has a 10-page San Andreas preview showing now at E3. Every point here is all confirmed and official from the early release of Game Informer. The magazine has 12 screenshots.
Screenshots
- One pic shows the inside of a house, with rendered interior environments. There is furniture inside the house.
- One shows a helicopter with its searchlights on a runaway criminal.
- The others show how the main character can get fat, its a pic of him (fat) crossing the street with a donut shop in the background.
- One shows two other characters that are apart of the main character's crew.
- One shows a gang carjacking. Three guys with doo rag masks are carjacking other guys.
- One with two men sneaking around the back of a house about to rob it. They are crouching and carrying guns.
- Another one shows a california type pimped out car.
- The last one shows the background of LA with a smog sky.
- The rest are the three we have already seen.
General
- The game is more serious than the others, but the elements of comedy are still there.
- A full staff of reasearch personnel at Rockstar have been studying Las Vegas, San Diego, and Los Angeles for months to ensure that they truly capture the feelings of these cities.
Location
- The game will not take place in Los Angeles, San Francisco, or Las Vegas. It will take place IN ALL THREE as well as the countryside in between.
- Los Angeles will be called Los Santos, San Francisco will be called San Fieero, and Las Vegas will be called Las Venturra.
- Each city is about the same size as Vice City.
- Not all cities will be open at the start of the game.
- The entire game will be about four to six times as large as Vice City.
- San Fierro (San Francisco) will have hills. This city is more driving based.
- You can drive from LA, through the countryside, up a mountain, into San Fran, and onto Las Vegas.
- Driving through the desert won?t be empty and plain with a couple cacti...it will be vibrant and alive with weird things to see.
- There will be a lot more buildings with open interiors.
Graphics
- The graphics engine has been tweaked. Smog will be present in LA, and real-time reflections on cars, windows, and mirrors, as well as new techniques like radial lighting, which allows for more realistic shadowing, and soft-shadow lighting for interior levels will be present.
- Everything in the game now has independent models for day and night to give better lighting and shadowing.
- The game will have ragdoll physics, or ?impact animation? in Rockstar?s words.
Vehicles
- As for vehicles, there will be pimped-out lowriders, and 90?s versions of some GTA3/VC cars will return.
- There will be bicycles.
Story
- Characters from the past will return.
Gameplay
- In the Las Vegas city, you will be able to buy and build a casino - and then run it.
- You can then gamble your money in the casino.
- Your character can dual wield pistols and potentially other weapons.
- You need to eat to retain your stamina. If you eat too much fast food, you become fat and pedestrians mock you for being fat. You also run slower. To remedy this, you can go to a gym to exercise.
- You can now rob homes. The robberies will require skill and planning, however.
- You can recruit gang members and use them to do four person drive-by?s. (seen here)
Weapons
- The choice of weapons will match the time in which the era of the early 90's.
Artificial Intelligence
- Enemy/pedestrian AI will be greatly revamped and they will think more logically. You can't beat someone to death in broad daylight and not have people notice and react.
- Your enemies will be smarter, which will make robbing houses take a lot of skill.
Music
- There will be a rap station, but there will be a variety of other stations as always.
http://www.gtagaming.com/.edgenetwork/ad_iframe.x?adx=125x125&zone=www.gtagaming.com&pt=hp
That'll do for now. I have more linkage and stuff if so desired...
wolvesfan15
17-05-2004, 10:36
WOW. roll on october. only bad thing i can think of which this game will have is loading times. im liking the whole rob a house thing. that sounds cool. pedestrian AI is sounding good too. just hope the cop AI is good. like chasing pedestrians when they do something wrong.
ill continue this later lol. got an exam too go too now. l8rs peeps
(p.s. june 17th. official PS2 mag has all the info, un seen screenies etc etc)
Should've kept Tommy :( but it'll do
:D
Celtic420
17-05-2004, 18:23
I hope they made the california countryside as redneck as it truly is :). i can't wait
Ok, cya.
Hahahahahahhahahah here we go again.......
I hope this wont continue ash...
Or we'll be saying the same thing
*wink* *wink* *nudge* Ok, cya.
-=[101st]=-
18-05-2004, 06:47
www.planetgrandtheftauto.com
this is one of the best places to get GTA:SA news... it has some stuff from E3 too.. i advise u check it out...
is there anyway you could scan those pictures and post them. it would be amazing. to see what the interiors and the character look like. u dont really get much in the threee pics already available.
Story
- Characters from the past will return.
maybe we find out what happen to donald love?
Hmmm, maybe. I wouldn't put anything past Rockstar, as they are certainly trying to outdo all before them with this GTA...
South Dorset Blue
22-05-2004, 08:38
On the gamestation website it say it is out on 22/10/04 just to let anyone know if they did'nt already.
I cant wait for this..........
This Is The Reason I Have Forgotten Pes4 :d
BazHilder
25-05-2004, 00:00
This Is The Reason I Have Forgotten Pes4 :d
Me too, cos this is meant to be coming out the week before pes4 i'm just looking forward to gta cos then the next week will fly by!
Well when more info comes out for PES4 the interest levels in that will shoot up. Not much has been released thus far that's why a lot of people are more excited about GTA:SA, personally I can't wait for either of them to come out
-=[101st]=-
26-05-2004, 01:01
yea.. but no sooner had we heard news of PES3 it was already out... but i agree both will be something special...
I think I'll prioritise GTA;SA for weeks....I'll be content for a year with those two games alone.I'll be working by that time so I won't get bored in the little spare time I have.
wolvesfan15
28-05-2004, 13:55
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/gta4/screens.html?page=9
new screen shot for anyone interested.
COOL, this game looks gangsta......you must be able to ride bikes then, doest anyone know, if the game is set in the Past, Furture or Present........it better be Present
It is set in the early 90's, The main character is called Carl Johnson
"....Five years ago Carl Johnson escaped from the pressures of life in Los Santos, San Andreas...a city tearing itself apart with gang trouble, drugs and corruption. Where filmstars and millionaires do their best to avoid the dealers and gangbangers. Now, it's the early 90s. Carl's got to go home. His mother has been murdered, his family has fallen apart and his childhood friends are all heading towards disaster. On his return to the neighborhood, a couple of corrupt cops frame him for homicide. CJ is forced on a journey that takes him across the entire state of San Andreas, to save his family and to take control of the streets...."
Just noticed this. :o
don't worry the storyline's well crafted.
If anyones interested he says lol, here's the new shot
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/914983_20040526_screen001.jpg
And this guy looks kinda like Ja Rule - http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/05/11/gta/gtasa_screen006.jpg
I reaaally wanna see whats on the radio this time round - should be top :D
Fraz_Maitland
29-05-2004, 11:23
Should've kept Tommy :( but it'll do
:D
yeah same here but there aint too much of a story that they can have wiv him now. He'll be missed :(
-=[101st]=-
29-05-2004, 13:26
for anyone residing in Australia.. you can pre order GTA:SA here...
http://www.gamesmarket.com.au/details.cfm?ProdID=6191
I've scanned and uploaded a page about SA from PSM2, new screenshots ( only 1 or 2 and they're pretty small, if someone could find them on the web :D ) and info - this thing is looking better and better :cool:
Check the 4-man car jacking :eek:
http://www.btinternet.com/~j.hofton/sanandreas2.jpg
COOOOOOL !!!!!!! i cant wait !!!!!
wolvesfan15
01-06-2004, 17:10
that picture with all the gangster people around that one car looks class. cant wait to do that :D
I love that Yellow Caddy, it looks class
I love that Yellow Caddy, it looks class
Yeah that's the best car that i've seen in San Andreas so far, it looks quality
Theres some New info in the new UK Playstation 2 Mag:
Changing hairstyles is possible.
It purportedly boasts an engine capable of six times the draw distance.
Only interior transitions cause load times.
There are cars with hydraulics.
Appearance alters NPC reactions to the player.
Cops can latch onto cars.
Motorcycle cops are now in the game.
Motorcycles can now do wheelies.
The game will be packaged on a single, dual-layered DVD.
The Motorcycles could already do wheelies.... :confused:
I know i just got that from the article. it must mean something else
Has anyone got any latest new on GTA: SA ???
Yay !!! Found some :D
New Screenshot's
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By the Way he looks like thierry henry ^^^^^ :D
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PSM2 Magazne Scans
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These are all taken from THIS SITE !!! (http://www.gtascraper.com)
I JUST CAN'T WAIT !!!!!!!!! :D
Great find Young GE
http://www.codenamesa.co.uk/media/content/screenshots/opsm2_screen10.jpg
He reminds me of Eazy-E
Great find Young GE
http://www.codenamesa.co.uk/media/content/screenshots/opsm2_screen10.jpg
He reminds me of Eazy-E
I was thinking the same mate, and THIS (http://www.gtascraper.com/content/screenshots/images/GTA%20San%20Andreas%20Media/00-psm2uk_gtasanan_prevew-g.jpg) one looks like Eazy-E and Dr.Dre
Ogopa Djz
16-06-2004, 18:22
If anyones interested he says lol, here's the new shot
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/914983_20040526_screen001.jpg
And this guy looks kinda like Ja Rule - http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/05/11/gta/gtasa_screen006.jpg
I reaaally wanna see whats on the radio this time round - should be top :D
I hope they have D.O.C wit their joint "heltah skeltah" or even better custom soundtrack.
Ryder Style
16-06-2004, 21:19
Just thought i would make your mouths water with a confirmation list so far of what is on the upcoming release:
Confirmation List
All information which has officially been confirmed by Rockstar Games as being in GTA:SA will be placed here.
Information
Confirmation
General Information
The new Grand Theft Auto game will be known as Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. Rockstar Games
The new GTA game will be Sony PlayStation2 Exclusive. Rockstar Games
The Official Game Description can be read [here]. Rockstar Games
The game will be based around "Recent Films" relating to the Californian gangster theme. OPS2 UK
The GTA style innuendo's will return, bigger and better than before. OPS2 UK
The game will use a Dual-Layer DVD because Rockstar have already filled up a full DVD disk! OPS2 UK
Release Date
USA and Surrounding NTSC Areas: October 19th, 2004 Rockstar Games
UK and Europe: October 22nd, 2004 Rockstar Games
Australia: October 28th, 2004 [Click here for more info] The Games Wizards
Characters
Carl Johnson - The main character, and the gangster who the player will control. [This Guy] Rockstar Games
Sweet Johnson - Carl's brother and part of the Orange Grove Families Gang. [Possibly the guy on the left] Game Informer
Brian Johnson - Another of Carl's brothers who was killed. Some people blame Carl for his death. Game Informer
Kendall Johnson - Carl's sister. Not much is known about her as of yet. Always arguing with Sweet. Game Informer
Smoke - A family friend of the Johnson's who also takes his place in the Orange Grove Families Gang. [Possibly this guy] Game Informer
Ryder - Another friend of Carl and member of the Orange Grove Families Gang. [Possibly the guy in the middle] Game Informer
The Barber - The person who will style your hair throughout the game. [This guy] OPS2 UK
Eddie Pulaski - One of the corrupt cops who frame Carl for homicide and make his life difficult. Game Informer
Frank Tenpenny - The other corrupt cop who is always getting on Carl's back. Game Informer
Gangs
Orange Grove Families - Carl Johnson's gang who the player will move with throughout the game. [Seen here] Game Informer
The Ballas - A rival gang of the Orange Grove Families. [Possibly seen here] OPS2 UK
The City / Map
The state of San Andreas, made up of the cities; Los Angeles, San Francisco and Las Vegas. Game Informer
The three cities from above will be named Los Santos, San Fierro, and Las Venturas in the game. Game Informer
Each city is the same size as Vice City. Game Informer
The entire game will be about Four to Six times bigger than Vice City. Game Informer
San Fierro will contain hills and will be more driving based. Game Informer
You can drive from Los Santos, through the countryside, up a mountain and into San Fierro, then onto Las Venturra. Game Informer
Driving through the desert will be vibrant and alive with weird things to see. Game Informer
There will be tumble-weed in the desert. OPS2 UK
Buildings
There will be a lot more buildings with open interiors. Game Informer
The only loading times in the game will be a short pause when you enter buildings! OPS2 UK
Graphics
The graphics engine has been tweaked. Smog will be present in LA, and real-time reflections on cars, windows, and mirrors, as well as new techniques like radial lighting, which allows for more realistic shadowing, and soft-shadow lighting for interior levels will be present. Game Informer
Everything in the game now has independent models for day and night to give better lighting and shadowing. Game Informer
Shadows can be used to hide yourself, to help pick off unsuspecting enemies. OPS2 UK
Real sunlight is simulated, and shadows are placed where they would really be. OPS2 UK
There are different sets of lighting for day and night which helps create a more realistic feel. OPS2 UK
Weather effects have been added to. OPS2 UK
There are various plants and places to see in the countryside, such as farms which keeps the game feeling alive. OPS2 UK
Game Play
The game will have rag-doll physics, or “Impact Animation” in Rockstar's words Game Informer
In the Las Venturas city, you will be able to buy and build a casino and then run it. Game Informer
You can then gamble your money in the casino. Game Informer
You need to eat to retain your stamina. If you eat too much fast food, you become fat and pedestrians mock you for being fat. You also run slower. To remedy this, you can go to a gym to exercise. Game Informer
You can now rob homes. The robberies will require skill and planning, however. Game Informer
You can recruit gang members and use them to do four person drive-by’s. Game Informer
Being a Gang Member only makes up about 15% of the total game. OPS2 UK
Carl Johnson can visit The Barber and get his hair cut into numerous different styles which the player can decide. Pedestrians and characters will make remarks on your hair, depending if it looks cool or un-cool. OPS2 UK
Carl and the Orange Grove Families can take over areas and generate money from them. This is just one of the many things which can add to the replay value even after the game has been 'completed'. OPS2 UK
Swimming is now a part of the game. OPS2 UK
If you drive a vehicle into the water, you have two choices, climb out of the window and swim to shore, or stay in the car and sink, where you will have a certain amount of underwater stamina. OPS2 UK
Swimming will be involved in some missions. OPS2 UK
There are parts of the game where you will work as a gang, and parts where you will work alone. OPS2 UK
The game is now very non-linear, and depending what choices are made, it will be rare for 2 players to have the same type of game. The missions will be the same, but so much can change depending on choices you make. OPS2 UK
There will be In-Breds and Degenerates in the Countryside and some missions will reflect the contrast between the towny and the country people. OPS2 UK
The map is so big players will get lost frequently. OPS2 UK
Characters have more bones which results in numerous different facial expressions. OPS2 UK
There are now many more ways to complete missions. You could run straight in shooting, or sneak through the shadows and pick off the enemies one by one. OPS2 UK
When the player only has one wanted star, hiding in the shadows should be enough to throw police off your trail. OPS2 UK
The player must tap the X button on the bike in order to pedal faster. GI + OPS2 UK
Weapons
Your character can dual wield pistols and potentially other weapons. Game Informer
The choice of weapons will match the weapons of the early 90's. Game Informer
So far we have seen: [Chrome Shotgun], [12 Gauge Shotgun], [Uzi 9mm], [Colt. 45], [Ingram-Mac 10]. R*, GI and OPS2 UK
You will have an accuracy meter at the top left of the screen, and the more enemies you hit, the better your accuracy will become. OPS2 UK
The crosshairs which are aimed at people will change colour depending on how much health the enemy has. Green will symbolise almost full health, yellow represents half health, and red shows the character is almost dead. OPS2 UK
Vehicles
There will be [Pimped Out Lowriders], and 90’s versions of some GTA3 / VC cars will return. Game Informer
There will be [Bicycles]. Game Informer
There are [Police Motorbikes] and they will be used by the cops. OPS2 UK
There are Quad Bikes to be ridden around the country side. OPS2 UK
Some vehicles are made specifically for the countryside, while others are for the streets of the city. OPS2 UK
Artificial Intelligence
Enemy / pedestrian AI will be greatly revamped and they will think more logically. You can't beat someone to death in broad daylight and not have people notice and react. Game Informer
Your enemies will be smarter, which will make robbing houses take a lot of skill. Game Informer
Music
There will be a rap station, but there will be a variety of other stations as always. Game Informer
sounds great doesnt it
Thanks for that Jack Bluebirds, sounds great,
Most of this is what Jack Bluebird just posted, but easyer too read...
you can perform wheelies on bikes.
There are no loading times except when you go into houses.
You can get hair styles
Depending on how you look can afect how woemen and gang members treet u.
CJ is part of the orange grove gang.
You can get your 'friends' and take over teratorys and places.
You can goto a gym.
There will be lots of cars and detail and the game will be 5X bigger than VC
You can hijack cars in a gang and it is nessacy in some missions to have gang members.
You have to plan house breaks or you can get in alot of trouble, like the people in the house taking a shot gun to your head then the police cominig in.
The first mission is the you have some truble with some cops and have to nick a bmx and drive into the distance.
you will be able to see 4X the distance in VC.
In the desert there will be tumble weeds
You can hide in shadows and pick of enemys or go in with a machine gun.
The auto target system has improved when you target someone with alot/full health the taget has greenbits, if injured abit it is yellow and near death is red.
Police have motorcycles to, And if you are in truble they can jump on your bonet and jump on your bumper.
also police helicopters can aim there blades near the ground so you can end up acroos town and with huge gouges in a car.
BazHilder
19-06-2004, 14:41
Just read the whole (huge) article in ops2 magazine and this game is gonna be absolutely superb, i can't wait. what a fortnight with this and pes4 so close to each other...
when i get pes4 + gta:sa my life will be complete
A lot more Blood! i have to disagree. i think theres already too much blood. even more would make it too unrealistic. there was real diologue in GTA:VIce city and theere will be in san andreas. i ameager to find out who is doing the voices. Ray lliotta did the voice for tommy vercetti in vice city. hope its someone just as big in the next one.
wolvesfan15
23-06-2004, 02:04
so far only person i know doin any voices is the guy who did salvatore leones from GTA III. it was on gtagaming last week. dont know of any other voices.
and yeah. more blood would be too unrealistic. theres plenty of blood.
hoping the surroundings in it though are dark and gloomy like liberty city rather than the bright sun and colours of Vice city. took the edge away i thought. still. cant wait for this game to come out. its gonna be amazing by the looks of things.
There are rumours that 50 Cent may voice Carl Johnson
There are rumours that 50 Cent may voice Carl Johnson
Thats what i heard too, i read it on a site, i hope its true :cool:
Ogopa Djz
23-06-2004, 23:27
Also Dave chapelle might be a voice on dere too.
I don't really care if there is swearing or not, sure it makes the game more realistic, but I won't be dissapointed if the swearing is kept to a minimum in San Andreas
I don't really care either, I’m still going to buy the game, even if there's rumours that the game has got no swearing or no blood in it, but i really doubt that, in Vice City and GTA:3, their wasn't allot of swearing anyway....but it would be nice if their was more of it though, but think that there's already been allot of blood in the Previous GTA's, so there’s no need for more of that, as it would make the game un-realistic.
I can’t wait….6 TIMES BIGGER THAN VICE CITY !!!!!!! :eek:
Ryder Style
25-06-2004, 20:47
at the moment it is very unlikely that 50 cent plays the lead role, the earlier rumours of that have died down now. this game will b s**t hot
Ogopa Djz
26-06-2004, 20:10
at the moment it is very unlikely that 50 cent plays the lead role, the earlier rumours of that have died down now. this game will b s**t hot
No doubt. I'd rather though that Dre and west side connect play a bigger part in the game considering , the west is dere territory. ;)
That would be amazing.why?? i wanna hear what the characters sayin and not some mumbling fool
exactly jonny2j....finally,common sense prevails....50 cent...pffff
why?? i wanna hear what the characters sayin and not some mumbling fool
lol. i don't want him to be in it because his voice doesnt suit the role i would rather have a professional actor to play the lead e.g. samuel l jackson or denzel washington.
Ryder Style
01-07-2004, 14:15
Just a slighty updated confirmation list from the one i posted previously: :)
Confirmation List
General Information
The new Grand Theft Auto game will be known as Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.
The new GTA game will be Sony PlayStation2 Exclusive.
The Official Game Description from Rockstar Games:
Five years ago Carl Johnson escaped from the pressures of life in Los Santos, San Andreas... a city tearing itself apart with gang trouble, drugs and corruption. Where filmstars and millionaires do their best to avoid the dealers and gangbangers.
Now, it's the early 90s. Carl's got to go home. His mother has been murdered, his family has fallen apart and his childhood friends are all heading towards disaster. On his return to the neighborhood, a couple of corrupt cops frame him for homicide. CJ is forced on a journey that takes him across the entire state of San Andreas, to save his family and to take control of the streets.
The game will be based around "Recent Films" relating to the Californian gangster theme.
The GTA style innuendo's will return, bigger and better than before.
The game will use a Dual-Layer DVD because Rockstar have already filled up a full DVD disk!
Release Dates
USA and Surrounding NTSC Areas: October 19th, 2004
UK and Europe: October 22nd, 2004
Australia: October 28th, 2004 [Click Here For More Info]
Characters
Carl Johnson - The main character and the gangster who the player will control.
Sweet Johnson - Carl's brother and part of the Orange Grove Families Gang.
Brian Johnson - Carl's 10 year old brother who was killed in a tragic car accident. Some people blame Carl for his death.
Kendl Johnson - Carl's sister. Not much is known about her as of yet but she is always arguing with Sweet.
Smoke - A family friend of the Johnson's who also takes his place in the Orange Grove Families Gang.
Ryder - Another friend of Carl and member of the Orange Grove Families Gang.
Old Reece - Carl's Barber. The guy who will be in charge of giving you all of your wacky hair styles.
Eddie Pulaski - One of the corrupt cops who frame Carl for homicide and make his life difficult.
Frank Tenpenny - The other corrupt cop who is always getting on Carl's back.
Cesar - A mysterious Latino character armed with a .45 and a body full of tattoos.
Gangs
Orange Grove Families - Carl Johnson's gang who the player will move with throughout the game.
The Ballas - A rival gang of the Orange Grove Families. [Seen Here]
The Flats - Another rival gang. [Possibly Seen Here]
The City / Map
The state of San Andreas is made up of the cities; Los Angeles, San Francisco and Las Vegas.
The three cities from above will be named Los Santos, San Fierro, and Las Venturas in the game.
Each city is the same size as Vice City.
The entire game will be about Four to Six times bigger than Vice City.
San Fierro will contain hills and will be more driving based.
You can drive from Los Santos, through the countryside, up a mountain and into San Fierro, then onto Las Venturra.
Driving through the desert will be vibrant and alive with weird things to see.
There will be tumble-weed in the desert.
The game will contain photographs and digital images as textures.
There will be Lakes, a Mountain, Farms and Fields plus more in the countryside.
The map is so big players will get lost frequently.
Buildings / Places
There will be a lot more buildings with open interiors.
The only loading times in the game will be a short pause when you enter buildings!
There will be buildings in GTA San Andreas called the following:
[Well Stacked Pizza]
[Tuff Nut Donuts]
[St. Brutus Motel]
[Reece's Hair Facial Studio]
Pay N' Spray
Orange Grove is the name of the area where Carl and his gang will live.
Graphics
The graphics engine has been tweaked.
Smog will be present in Los Santos, and real-time reflections on cars, windows, and mirrors, as well as new techniques like radial lighting, which allows for more realistic shadowing, and soft-shadow lighting for interior levels will be present.
Everything in the game now has independent models for day and night to give better lighting and shadowing.
Shadows can be used to hide yourself, to help pick off unsuspecting enemies.
Real sunlight is simulated, and shadows are placed where they would really be.
There are different sets of lighting for day and night which helps create a more realistic feel.
Weather effects have been added to.
There are various things to do and places to see in the countryside, such as farms which keeps the game feeling alive.
Vehicles will accumulate dirt and rust as you play through the game.
The HUD will be similar to that of GTA3 and Vice City.
There will not be as many 'pop-up' items while the player is moving throughout the game.
Trees will be rendered as a group from distance, but rendered separately as the player gets closer. This allows a much bigger draw distance.
Game Play
The game will have rag-doll physics, or “Impact Animation” in Rockstars words.
In the Las Venturas city, you will be able to buy and build a casino and then run it you can then gamble your money in the casino.
You need to eat to retain your stamina. If you eat too much fast food, you become fat and pedestrians mock you for being fat. You also run slower and vehicles move slower. Beating certain missions is almost impossible unless you're in the right physical shape. To remedy this, you can go to a gym to exercise.
You can now rob homes. The robberies will require skill and planning, however.
You can recruit gang members and use them to do four person drive-by’s.
Being a Gang Member only makes up about 15% of the total game.
Carl Johnson can visit Old Reece (The Barber) and get his hair cut into numerous different styles which the player can decide. Pedestrians and characters will make remarks on your hair, depending if it looks cool or un-cool.
Carl and the Orange Grove Families can take over areas and generate money from them. This is just one of the many things which can add to the replay value even after the game has been 'completed'.
Swimming is now a part of the game, if you drive a vehicle into the water, you have two choices, climb out of the window and swim to shore, or stay in the car and sink, where you will have a certain amount of underwater stamina. Swimming will also be involved in some missions.
There are parts of the game where you will work as a gang, and parts where you will work alone.
The game is now very non-linear, and depending what choices are made, it will be rare for 2 players to have the same type of game. The missions will be the same, but so much can change depending on choices you make.
There will be In-Breds and Degenerates in the Countryside and some missions will reflect the contrast between the towny and the country people.
Characters have more bones which results in numerous different facial expressions.
There are now many more ways to complete missions. You could run straight in shooting, or sneak through the shadows and pick off the enemies one by one.
When the player only has one wanted star, hiding in the shadows should be enough to throw police off your trail.
The player must tap the X button on the bike in order to pedal faster.
The camera will automatically zoom behind the player at the touch of a button and the player then has the ability to freely target using the analogue stick. The auto-target will still be a part of the game though.
The game will take at least three times longer to complete than Vice City.
Weapons
Your character can dual wield pistols, sub machine guns and potentially other weapons.
The choice of weapons will match the weapons of the early 90's.
Some of these are:
[Chrome Shotgun]
[12 Gauge Shotgun]
[Uzi 9mm]
[Colt. 45]
[Ingram-Mac 10]
You will have an accuracy meter at the top left of the screen, and the more enemies you hit, the better your accuracy will become.
The crosshairs which are aimed at people will change colour depending on how much health the enemy has. Green will symbolise almost full health, yellow represents half health, and red shows the character is almost dead.
Vehicles
There will be 90’s versions of some GTA3 / VC cars.
The following vehicles will be in the game:
[Lowriders]
[Police Motorbikes]
[Police Helicopters]
[Pickup Trucks]
[Linerunners]
Smaller Cars
Quad Bikes
Tractors
Some vehicles are made specifically for the countryside, while others are for the streets of the city.
[B]Artificial Intelligence
Enemy / pedestrian AI will be greatly revamped and they will think more logically. You can't beat someone to death in broad daylight and not have people notice and react.
Your enemies will be smarter, which will make robbing houses take a lot of skill.
Music
There will be a rap station, but there will be a variety of other stations as always.
There will be three times the amount of licensed music than in Vice City.
Just a slighty updated confirmation list from the one i posted previously: :)
Confirmation List
General Information
The new Grand Theft Auto game will be known as Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.
The new GTA game will be Sony PlayStation2 Exclusive.
The Official Game Description from Rockstar Games:
Five years ago Carl Johnson escaped from the pressures of life in Los Santos, San Andreas... a city tearing itself apart with gang trouble, drugs and corruption. Where filmstars and millionaires do their best to avoid the dealers and gangbangers.
Now, it's the early 90s. Carl's got to go home. His mother has been murdered, his family has fallen apart and his childhood friends are all heading towards disaster. On his return to the neighborhood, a couple of corrupt cops frame him for homicide. CJ is forced on a journey that takes him across the entire state of San Andreas, to save his family and to take control of the streets.
The game will be based around "Recent Films" relating to the Californian gangster theme.
The GTA style innuendo's will return, bigger and better than before.
The game will use a Dual-Layer DVD because Rockstar have already filled up a full DVD disk!
Release Dates
USA and Surrounding NTSC Areas: October 19th, 2004
UK and Europe: October 22nd, 2004
Australia: October 28th, 2004 [Click Here For More Info]
Characters
Carl Johnson - The main character and the gangster who the player will control.
Sweet Johnson - Carl's brother and part of the Orange Grove Families Gang.
Brian Johnson - Carl's 10 year old brother who was killed in a tragic car accident. Some people blame Carl for his death.
Kendl Johnson - Carl's sister. Not much is known about her as of yet but she is always arguing with Sweet.
Smoke - A family friend of the Johnson's who also takes his place in the Orange Grove Families Gang.
Ryder - Another friend of Carl and member of the Orange Grove Families Gang.
Old Reece - Carl's Barber. The guy who will be in charge of giving you all of your wacky hair styles.
Eddie Pulaski - One of the corrupt cops who frame Carl for homicide and make his life difficult.
Frank Tenpenny - The other corrupt cop who is always getting on Carl's back.
Cesar - A mysterious Latino character armed with a .45 and a body full of tattoos.
Gangs
Orange Grove Families - Carl Johnson's gang who the player will move with throughout the game.
The Ballas - A rival gang of the Orange Grove Families. [Seen Here]
The Flats - Another rival gang. [Possibly Seen Here]
The City / Map
The state of San Andreas is made up of the cities; Los Angeles, San Francisco and Las Vegas.
The three cities from above will be named Los Santos, San Fierro, and Las Venturas in the game.
Each city is the same size as Vice City.
The entire game will be about Four to Six times bigger than Vice City.
San Fierro will contain hills and will be more driving based.
You can drive from Los Santos, through the countryside, up a mountain and into San Fierro, then onto Las Venturra.
Driving through the desert will be vibrant and alive with weird things to see.
There will be tumble-weed in the desert.
The game will contain photographs and digital images as textures.
There will be Lakes, a Mountain, Farms and Fields plus more in the countryside.
The map is so big players will get lost frequently.
Buildings / Places
There will be a lot more buildings with open interiors.
The only loading times in the game will be a short pause when you enter buildings!
There will be buildings in GTA San Andreas called the following:
[Well Stacked Pizza]
[Tuff Nut Donuts]
[St. Brutus Motel]
[Reece's Hair Facial Studio]
Pay N' Spray
Orange Grove is the name of the area where Carl and his gang will live.
Graphics
The graphics engine has been tweaked.
Smog will be present in Los Santos, and real-time reflections on cars, windows, and mirrors, as well as new techniques like radial lighting, which allows for more realistic shadowing, and soft-shadow lighting for interior levels will be present.
Everything in the game now has independent models for day and night to give better lighting and shadowing.
Shadows can be used to hide yourself, to help pick off unsuspecting enemies.
Real sunlight is simulated, and shadows are placed where they would really be.
There are different sets of lighting for day and night which helps create a more realistic feel.
Weather effects have been added to.
There are various things to do and places to see in the countryside, such as farms which keeps the game feeling alive.
Vehicles will accumulate dirt and rust as you play through the game.
The HUD will be similar to that of GTA3 and Vice City.
There will not be as many 'pop-up' items while the player is moving throughout the game.
Trees will be rendered as a group from distance, but rendered separately as the player gets closer. This allows a much bigger draw distance.
Game Play
The game will have rag-doll physics, or “Impact Animation” in Rockstars words.
In the Las Venturas city, you will be able to buy and build a casino and then run it you can then gamble your money in the casino.
You need to eat to retain your stamina. If you eat too much fast food, you become fat and pedestrians mock you for being fat. You also run slower and vehicles move slower. Beating certain missions is almost impossible unless you're in the right physical shape. To remedy this, you can go to a gym to exercise.
You can now rob homes. The robberies will require skill and planning, however.
You can recruit gang members and use them to do four person drive-by’s.
Being a Gang Member only makes up about 15% of the total game.
Carl Johnson can visit Old Reece (The Barber) and get his hair cut into numerous different styles which the player can decide. Pedestrians and characters will make remarks on your hair, depending if it looks cool or un-cool.
Carl and the Orange Grove Families can take over areas and generate money from them. This is just one of the many things which can add to the replay value even after the game has been 'completed'.
Swimming is now a part of the game, if you drive a vehicle into the water, you have two choices, climb out of the window and swim to shore, or stay in the car and sink, where you will have a certain amount of underwater stamina. Swimming will also be involved in some missions.
There are parts of the game where you will work as a gang, and parts where you will work alone.
The game is now very non-linear, and depending what choices are made, it will be rare for 2 players to have the same type of game. The missions will be the same, but so much can change depending on choices you make.
There will be In-Breds and Degenerates in the Countryside and some missions will reflect the contrast between the towny and the country people.
Characters have more bones which results in numerous different facial expressions.
There are now many more ways to complete missions. You could run straight in shooting, or sneak through the shadows and pick off the enemies one by one.
When the player only has one wanted star, hiding in the shadows should be enough to throw police off your trail.
The player must tap the X button on the bike in order to pedal faster.
The camera will automatically zoom behind the player at the touch of a button and the player then has the ability to freely target using the analogue stick. The auto-target will still be a part of the game though.
The game will take at least three times longer to complete than Vice City.
Weapons
Your character can dual wield pistols, sub machine guns and potentially other weapons.
The choice of weapons will match the weapons of the early 90's.
Some of these are:
[Chrome Shotgun]
[12 Gauge Shotgun]
[Uzi 9mm]
[Colt. 45]
[Ingram-Mac 10]
You will have an accuracy meter at the top left of the screen, and the more enemies you hit, the better your accuracy will become.
The crosshairs which are aimed at people will change colour depending on how much health the enemy has. Green will symbolise almost full health, yellow represents half health, and red shows the character is almost dead.
Vehicles
There will be 90’s versions of some GTA3 / VC cars.
The following vehicles will be in the game:
[Lowriders]
[Police Motorbikes]
[Police Helicopters]
[Pickup Trucks]
[Linerunners]
Smaller Cars
Quad Bikes
Tractors
Some vehicles are made specifically for the countryside, while others are for the streets of the city.
[B]Artificial Intelligence
Enemy / pedestrian AI will be greatly revamped and they will think more logically. You can't beat someone to death in broad daylight and not have people notice and react.
Your enemies will be smarter, which will make robbing houses take a lot of skill.
Music
There will be a rap station, but there will be a variety of other stations as always.
There will be three times the amount of licensed music than in Vice City.all i can say is awesome
Yeah I know what you mean, it looks amazing. Running a casino should be interesting
Ryder Style
01-07-2004, 14:48
i cant wait it really is gonna b gr8
[picks jaw off the floor]
OMG, the game of games.
Ryder Style
01-07-2004, 15:31
ill keep updating the features as more and more news comes out
Ruddy hell :eek:
Sounds promising ;)
sounds like a half decent game we have on our hands here
its quite an old story but they've confirmed its not online which i never expected anyway. i dont think it is going to e onlin eon the ps2. maybe on the ps3 as it has more capabilities to cope with all the users that would be in one place robbing cars from each other and suff. the onlin version would be fun though but it wold have to include a proper story mode as well.
sounds like a half decent game we have on our hands here
Meh ... I might buy it, if I get round to it ...... ;)
not only is this great game coming out around PES4 time but also Burnout 3 will be coming out then,yipee (http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/640/640596/vids_1.html?ui=gamefinder)
Ign has a 5 page summary , which is well organized , which includes all known info up to date . I know its nothing new , but its worth a look , for people that are lost on certain info & dont understand some of the features . They have all the features organized into segments spread over 5 pages & describe the elements of each feature .
here is the link
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/527/527358p1.html
From PlanetGrandTheftAuto.com has the translated new info for San Andreas:
The German edition of the Official PlayStation 2 Magazine contains some new information.
Some parts of missions will take place in the countryside outside of the 3 cities.
The game story will be tripled in length. If you get too fat, those that give you missions have the ability to tell you to get in better shape before starting a certain mission.
The HUD (heads up display) will be similar to GTA III's and Vice City's.
Orange Grove is the name of one of the towns/suburbs that's where the Orange Grove Families come from.
There will be less pop-up of distant objects. Houses can be seen from far away. Groups of trees will be rendered as a group from distance. If you get closer, they'll be rendered seperately. Because of this, a bigger draw distance is possible.
The magazine claims that the animations will be even better than in Vice City.
The goal of the programmers is to achieve a constant frame rate of 30 frames per second. But, in extreme situations when there are lots of cars and pedestrians on the screen, the magazine says that the game still has some slowdown issues.
The textures will be photographed ones as well as self-drawn ones.
The camera will automatically zoom behind CJ at the press of a button. Then you can aim freely with the analog stick. But as an alternative to that, there will also be the aiming-aid.
The number of licensed music tracks in SA will have tripled.
The game is now about 80% finished (probably a month ago).
Even the dual-layer DVD is actually too small for the game. Due to new compression techniques for the PlayStation 2, the game barely fits on it.
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Comedy Central has a new GTA inspired mini-game promoting their Reno 911 TV series. Check it out at this link
Could it possibly be a hint that comedy centrals Dave chappelle might have something to do with GTA San Andreas ?
http://www.comedycentral.com
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I've just seen a fake San Andreas video made by Rafko and RedPinguin and it was amazing. It's all been done with PC version mods of GTA3 and Vice City, but it has used everything we expect to see in San Andreas and the video has been edited to give it more of a San Andreas feel. If some of the more 'obvious' places from GTA3 and VC weren't used on the video, it would be very hard to tell the difference. Great job all of those who worked on this video!
You can download it here (WMV Format, 17MB) which is hosted on our server to save bandwidth for the guys who made it, but feel free to check out their page at:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/gtamaniac/index.html
sbfootie
03-07-2004, 12:40
how the Fcuk can they get all that into 1 game?
They're using a double sided DVD I think I heard, they've already filled one side and are in danger of filling the second too :D They've gone nuts I tells ya!
Even games like Killzone are delaying their releases so they don't come out at the same time as GTA, it's gonna be BIG :cool:
and will break all sales records and will make them rockstar people richer and fatter then they already are
i think the dvd is only one side but it has two layers. they say that it wouldnt fit on to two layers normally so they have to compress it. there is three times as much music whici h i think is ridiculouys.
i think it would be cool if there were different radio stations in the different cities.
anyone seen that fake movie yet its quite cool.
sbfootie
03-07-2004, 21:27
They're using a double sided DVD I think I heard, they've already filled one side and are in danger of filling the second too :D They've gone nuts I tells ya!
Even games like Killzone are delaying their releases so they don't come out at the same time as GTA, it's gonna be BIG :cool:
filling two disks whoa
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah I meant double layered, anyway you get what i mean - basicly it's BIG ;)
You know how when you drive around Liberty/Vice City you know where you are all the time and what's round the corner, I reckons in San Andreas you're gonna be lost 50% of the time :D
I can't wait to get lost :p, The sheer size of the game is going to be phenomenal.
Rockstar must be pretty confident if they are releasing this many details about the game this early, compare this to Konami who are keeping their cards close to their chest about PES4.
I can't wait to get lost :p, The sheer size of the game is going to be phenomenal.
Same here lol :D , in Vice City and GTA:3 i know every single road back to back, i will never get lost, but on San Andreas, i dont think i will be able to do that again :D ...
I played Driver 3 yesterday, and the Graphics where AMAZING !!!, if the San Andreas Graphics are like that....the game will be even better, than it looks...
here is the official Box Art of Grand Theft Auto San Andreas
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/528/528720/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-20040707093531390.jpg
Ryder Style
10-07-2004, 15:56
looks great, still cant wait for the game. october 22nd is the official release date incase anyone didnt know
L . F . C
10-07-2004, 16:26
the bit about u gettin fat sounds good
I like ur sig Jack,,,,,,did you make it your self ?
Ryder Style
11-07-2004, 13:58
thanks. na i didnt make it i got it from this gta site
Zinedine Zidane
11-07-2004, 14:34
which one da rockstar one or da other one
Ryder Style
11-07-2004, 18:02
no it wasnt the official one it was a fan site
It probably will have a map, considering how big the game is going to be. They should include a pull-out map like they did with the first GTA, that would be handy
Ryder Style
12-07-2004, 10:23
cors they are gonna do a map, they always do
All i can say its going to be bigger and better than ever before! :D Its going to be on DVD-9. (Dual Layer) More freeroaming!
Ryder Style
12-07-2004, 10:31
i just can w8 to get my hands on it. graphics look loads better 2. jag what city you looking forward to most
urm, the equivalent of LA - Gangwars such as drivebuys and machetti slaughter seems intriguing. LA is the Gangsters Paradise.
Ryder Style
12-07-2004, 10:35
yeah i know there was a program on about the gangs in la. i cant wait for san fierro (francisco) cos i went there on hols and it was good. roads are really steep
i cant wait for the San Francisco to. i went there oin holiday quite a while ago. i bet there is a mission whivh involoves Alcatraz and i cant wait.
Lorenzinho
12-07-2004, 14:43
Jag, DVD-9, are you absoloutely sure?
Because if it is, then HDLoader wont be able to take it. Go to the official site. It says it'll do every kind of disc apart from DVD-9!... :eek: :confused:
Ryder Style
12-07-2004, 18:14
i cant wait for the San Francisco to. i went there oin holiday quite a while ago. i bet there is a mission whivh involoves Alcatraz and i cant wait.
yeah alcatraz mission will be good, plus it will be full of hobos!!!!!!!! lol they will be funny. did u see the world famous bushman when you were there, i did he was mad
wolvesfan15
12-07-2004, 19:50
tis sounding class every time somethin new is released. alcatraz missions would be ace. with the whole taking over areas from other gangs and making money. wouldbe nice if u could go alcatraz and take it over. and get tourist money or somehtin lol. i dunno
but www.gtagaming.com has been doin some great research on possibilities for SA so far. such as a porsche 911 to be in it based on the reflection of the car in the womens sun glass's on the box. catalina from gta III (the one who got ur guy sent down at the very start video) could be in it. as on the liberty tree site it mentions her coming from los somethin.
That is some great site. Esp the cover of San Andreas.
Zinedine Zidane
12-07-2004, 20:42
how is it a great site
wolvesfan15
15-07-2004, 00:54
new things confirmed on www.gtagaming.com are that there will be combine harvesters and monster trucks in the game :D.
Ryder Style
15-07-2004, 23:17
Play UK Magazine's New Information
- The Draw Distance in the countryside is 4 times better than that in Vice City.
- The Mountain, Mt. Chiliad, Is the biggest single object in the game.
- You will start to see clouds when you reach a certain altitude on Mt. Chiliad.
- There are tunnels and lots of foliage on the mountain.
- Two of the country side cities are Dillamore and Angel Pine.
- There is a Liquor Store and Trailer Park in Angel Pine.
- It is possible to attach and detach the trailer on the back of large trucks.
- Dillamore contains a Gas Station.
- A mission involves robbing the Gas Station in Dillamore, however it results in CJ and his accomplice stealing the large Gas Truck outside.
- The foliage in the countryside is only drawn when the player can see it which keeps the game feeling vibrant and alive, but also maintains a steady framerate.
- The M-16 Assault Rifle will make a come back.
- The longer the player holds down the R1 button, the more chance there is of getting a headshot on an enemy.
- Unlike previous GTA Games, the players stats actually change the way 'their Carl' will behave. If a player drives around on a bike a lot, they will be a good bike driver in the game, but won't be as good at driving a car.
- New vehicles include a 4x4 Jeep, Quad Bikes, A Monster Truck, A Combine Harvester, A Dirt Bike and A Gas Tanker along with what appears to be a Sabre, A Rancher, A Walton, A Greenwood, An Esperanto, A Sentinel, A Bobcat, A Virgo and a Manana from Vice City.
- The Monster Truck does not have a hand brake, but rather the ability to switch to 4x4 steering mode, which gives the vehicle an extremely small turning circle which is great for navigating through the trees in the country side.
- The Monster Truck also has the ability to drive through shallow rivers thanks to it's raised body.
- Players will have to be very careful when driving the Gas Tanker as it will Jack-Knife very easily.
just some latest info for you guys :D
Play UK Magazine's New Information
- The Draw Distance in the countryside is 4 times better than that in Vice City.
- The Mountain, Mt. Chiliad, Is the biggest single object in the game.
- You will start to see clouds when you reach a certain altitude on Mt. Chiliad.
- There are tunnels and lots of foliage on the mountain.
- Two of the country side cities are Dillamore and Angel Pine.
- There is a Liquor Store and Trailer Park in Angel Pine.
- It is possible to attach and detach the trailer on the back of large trucks.
- Dillamore contains a Gas Station.
- A mission involves robbing the Gas Station in Dillamore, however it results in CJ and his accomplice stealing the large Gas Truck outside.
- The foliage in the countryside is only drawn when the player can see it which keeps the game feeling vibrant and alive, but also maintains a steady framerate.
- The M-16 Assault Rifle will make a come back.
- The longer the player holds down the R1 button, the more chance there is of getting a headshot on an enemy.
- Unlike previous GTA Games, the players stats actually change the way 'their Carl' will behave. If a player drives around on a bike a lot, they will be a good bike driver in the game, but won't be as good at driving a car.
- New vehicles include a 4x4 Jeep, Quad Bikes, A Monster Truck, A Combine Harvester, A Dirt Bike and A Gas Tanker along with what appears to be a Sabre, A Rancher, A Walton, A Greenwood, An Esperanto, A Sentinel, A Bobcat, A Virgo and a Manana from Vice City.
- The Monster Truck does not have a hand brake, but rather the ability to switch to 4x4 steering mode, which gives the vehicle an extremely small turning circle which is great for navigating through the trees in the country side.
- The Monster Truck also has the ability to drive through shallow rivers thanks to it's raised body.
- Players will have to be very careful when driving the Gas Tanker as it will Jack-Knife very easily.
just some latest info for you guys :D
Fucking hell, how much can they fit in one game? :p
The mountains and countryside sound very promising. Official PS2 magazine says it has exclusive info about San Andreas this month, although it might just be similar to what you have posted
Ryder Style
15-07-2004, 23:27
cool. around 97 days to release. long time but im sure it will be worth the wait :)
Some screenshots from www.gta-sanandreas.com
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/scannedscreens/gameinformer/gi_8.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/scannedscreens/gameinformer/gi_9.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/scannedscreens/psmusa/psmusa_2.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/scannedscreens/gameinformer/gi_10.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/scannedscreens/gameinformer/gi_11.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/image.php?i=/images/sanandreas/screenshots/pu_screen7.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/image.php?i=/images/sanandreas/screenshots/ascreen12.jpg
second screenshot is most likely to be san francsico cause of the steep road in the background.
http://www.gtagaming.com/image.php?i=/images/sanandreas/screenshots/ascreen13.jpg
heres another screensht. this ones interesting cause ther is a guy in the front using his cell phone (mobile). could he be ringing the cops. if u remember this was supposed to happen in vice city but i never seen any of the pedestrianss actually ring the cops. i think this time it may have been implemented. if it has it will make the game harder bu a whole lot better.
just got hands on scans too. theyt are very large pictures though. be warned large loading times.
http://img6.exs.cx/img6/484/Plastic.jpg
http://img6.exs.cx/img6/2043/Front3.jpg
http://img6.exs.cx/img6/9585/Page2.jpg
http://img6.exs.cx/img6/2930/Page4.jpg
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http://img6.exs.cx/img6/5733/Page9.jpg
http://img6.exs.cx/img6/3268/Page10.jpg
http://img6.exs.cx/img6/2276/Page11.jpg
http://img6.exs.cx/img6/9412/Page12.jpg
Cheers for the scans Razor
On the last page they ask if San Andreas will actually be too big, does anybody think there is a possibility of this happening? It does look absolutely huge
bigger is better. it can never be too big. just think are u going to get bored playing this. no way. bigger in gta just means more to do. i think this game could possibly last over 100 hours. that is great. it is on e of the reasons why i love RPG's cause they are long and hate adventure games cause they are short.
anyone reckon you would have to fill up petrol in your cars?
bigger is better. it can never be too big. just think are u going to get bored playing this. no way. bigger in gta just means more to do. i think this game could possibly last over 100 hours. that is great. it is on e of the reasons why i love RPG's cause they are long and hate adventure games cause they are short.
anyone reckon you would have to fill up petrol in your cars?
Nah i cant see it happening! It would involve having to put a petrol bar in and it will kinda waste the screen space coz it can't have tons of stuff bars and indicators.
anyone reckon you would have to fill up petrol in your cars?
That would be canny like, petrol stations are included in San Andreas so maybe they will be used to good effect.
I'm well impressed with the countryside element, Rockstar have certainly done their research
What if there was just one extra bar up top and you could flick through so it was like Petrol - Need to Pee* - Hunger - etc, and say by pressing i dunno l1 and l2 or whatever you can scroll through them
Oh and it wont be in SA but good idea though the petrol thing
*If you pee your pants no chick or gangmember is gona think thats fly and peeps will cross the street to avoid your funky smell - copyright mutus idea 2004
Those scans look hectic man. Can't wait.
there is a rumoured list of some tracks and warren g is on it. ill have a look for it.
a german magazine has been released. it has some new screenshots and some new info
- The twelve small towns often consist of only two junctions and a few buildings, featuring a liquor store, bakery, pottery and much more.
- When flying, the radar map changes and shows a horizon, so orientation is easier.
- Realistic truck trailer physics.
- You can swim, dive, find oxygen bottles, and more.
- You can start your own gang and get your own gang weapons and cars.
- You can train your muscles to become stronger.
Three countryside missions:
In the 1st mission CJ has to help his buddy, who is hunted by a motorbike gang and needs a diversionary maneuver. So Carl races trough the forest in a jeep, with the gang after him - since they assume the victim is in the car. CJ has to stop them from destroying the doors to keep it a secret. As soon as you pass the checkpoint race your cellphone rings - your buddy is safe, and you get the $400 reward.
The 2nd mission starts at a trailer park. CJ is blackmailed into killing an important witness, who hides in a hut on Mt. Chiliad. Carl arrives there with a Sanchez, first killing two FBI agents and then the witness. Since the blackmailer wants to see evidence, CJ takes a photo of the corpse, and drives back to the trailer park.
For the 3rd mission in the demonstration, Rockstar used a cheat to spawn a Dodo to save time (claiming that using a car would have taken them 15 minutes), and lands near a small hut in the forest. There the gas station mission starts, where CJ and the yet unknown girl try to steal the tanker.
They also wrote that the PS2 lagged during their presentation, but they hope R* get this fixed in the remaining months, as well as a few boring and stretched countryside textures.
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/maps/screenfun_map.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/screenfun_4.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/screenfun_1.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/screenfun_2.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/screenfun_3.jpg
the map is only the magazines impression it isnt the actual map.
here is the list of alleged tracks for stoneman:
Salt'n'Pepa - Push it
Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby
Inner Circle - Bad Boys
KLF - 3am Eternal
Massive Attack - Unfinished Sympathy
Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit
Jane's Addiction - Been Caught Stealing
Poison - Every Rose Has It's Thorn
Guns'n'Roses - Sweet Child O' Mine
Smashing Pumpkins - Today
NWA - **** Tha Police / 100 Miles And Runnnin'
Snoop Doggy Dogg - Gin N'Juice / Ain't No Fun
Warren G - Regulate
Fugees - Killing Me Softly
Coolio - Gangsta's Paradise
Public Enemy - Rebel Without A Pause
The Stone Roses - Fools Gold
Happy Mondays - Step On
The Verve - Bitter Sweet Symphony
Radiohead - Creep
According to their record label, Death Row Records, some music in San Andreas will be provided by Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre. This information appears to be official, since it is on the official site of these artists, but as of yet, we've had nothing confirmed by Rockstar themselves.
We have three songs from our catalog appearing on the upcoming Rockstar Games release "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas". The songs that will be playing while you jack cars, recruit gang members, and make drug deals are "Let Me Ride", "Nuthin' But A G Thang", and "Gin & Juice".
--- Death Row Records, Official Website
Unfortunately, for whatever reason, the information has been removed from the Death Row Records website. This may be due to contractural reasons, with Rockstar, or even because it was a blatant lie. We'll probably only find out when the game is released and the reviews are rolling in. i think rockstar may have told them to take it off cause they wan to keep the music a secret.
Both PSM Italy and PlayStation2 Magazine were released in Italy this week. The articles were trasnlated by Alessio of GTA-Series and God of Gta of GTANetwork. Here are some clips that may interest you:
Rockstar programmers told us that maybe in the final game we can change tattoos or clotes on CJ.
All game's pedestrians have a "brain" and they react more actively respect the past GTA's, with more animations.
Dan Houser [co-founder of Rockstar Games] says that he cannot find any way to complete the game in less than 150 hours.
The dimensions are enormous. Keep in mind that just Los Santos is as big as the entire play area of Vice City and it is just ¼ of the dimension of the map of San Andreas. Between the three centers, there is also the famous ?countryside?, which we didn?t see and weren?t told anything about except that the visual profundity, in the pastoral region, will be four times that seen before.
Electronic Gaming Magazine September (out sometime soon) is doing a three page article with new info and an interview with Jeff Casteneda. Some new info leaked is:
-Three confirmed hairstyles include "dripping Jheri curls, a fashionable Afro and a towering flattop."
-"Sparks, parts and pedestrians fly, motorcycle police lose control and cling to the trunk of your car and politicians find plenty of reason to cry foul when a ludicrously low-flying helicopter purees a cop." Whether this means that a political figure will play in a role in the game (Congressman Alex Shrub from Vice City) is yet to be confirmed.
-When Jeff Casteneda was asked about Carl Johnson's involvement with a woman in the game, Mr. Casteneda said, "we know something we won't tell."
-When Mr. Casteneda was asked if Dave Chappelle will lend his voice to Carl Johnson's character, he said, "that certainly would be cool."
Ryder Style
22-07-2004, 17:50
ok another slightly tweaked confirmation list for you guys :)
Confirmation List
General Information
The new Grand Theft Auto game will be known as Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.
The new GTA game will be Sony PlayStation2 Exclusive.
The Official Game Description from Rockstar Games:
Five years ago Carl Johnson escaped from the pressures of life in Los Santos, San Andreas... a city tearing itself apart with gang trouble, drugs and corruption. Where filmstars and millionaires do their best to avoid the dealers and gangbangers.
Now, it's the early 90s. Carl's got to go home. His mother has been murdered, his family has fallen apart and his childhood friends are all heading towards disaster. On his return to the neighborhood, a couple of corrupt cops frame him for homicide. CJ is forced on a journey that takes him across the entire state of San Andreas, to save his family and to take control of the streets.
The game will be based around "Recent Films" relating to the Californian gangster theme.
The GTA style innuendo's will return, bigger and better than before.
The game will use a Dual-Layer DVD because Rockstar have already filled up a full DVD disk!
The game should take the average player no less than 150 hours to complete.
Release Dates
USA and Surrounding NTSC Areas: October 19th, 2004
UK and Europe: October 22nd, 2004
Australia: October 28th, 2004
Characters
[Carl Johnson] - The main character and the gangster who the player will control.
[Sweet Johnson] - Carl's brother and part of the Orange Grove Families Gang.
Kendl Johnson - Carl's sister. Not much is known about her as of yet but she is always arguing with Sweet.
[Smoke] - A family friend of the Johnson's who also takes his place in the Orange Grove Families Gang.
[Ryder] - Another friend of Carl and member of the Orange Grove Families Gang.
[Old Reece] - Carl's Barber. The guy who will be in charge of giving you all of your wacky hair styles.
Eddie Pulaski - One of the corrupt cops who frame Carl for homicide and make his life difficult.
Frank Tenpenny - The other corrupt cop who is always getting on Carl's back.
[Cesar] - A mysterious Latino character armed with a .45 and a body full of tattoos.
[LSPD] - The guys who'll be constantly on your tail when you break the law in Los Santos.
Mysterious Cabin Woman - A girl from a previous GTA re-appears as Carl's
Accomplice... possibly Catalina.
Gangs
[Orange Grove Families] - Carl Johnson's gang who the player will move with throughout the game.
[The Ballas] - A rival gang of the Orange Grove Families.
The Flats - Another rival gang
The City / Map
The state of San Andreas is made up of the cities; Los Angeles, San Francisco and Las Vegas.
The three cities from above will be named Los Santos, San Fierro, and Las Venturas in the game.
Each city is the same size as Vice City.
The entire game will be about Four to Six times bigger than Vice City.
San Fierro will contain hills and will be more driving based.
You can drive from Los Santos, through the countryside, up a mountain and into San Fierro, then onto Las Venturas.
Driving through the desert will be vibrant and alive with weird things to see.
There will be tumble-weed in the desert.
The game will contain photographs and digital images as textures.
There will be Lakes, a Mountain, Farms and Fields plus more in the countryside.
The map is so big players will get lost frequently.
Buildings / Places
There will be a lot more buildings with open interiors.
The only loading times in the game will be a short pause when you enter buildings!
There will be places in GTA San Andreas called the following:
[Los Santos]
San Fierro
Las Venturas
[Well Stacked Pizza]
[Tuff Nut Donuts]
[St. Brutus Motel]
[Reece's Hair Facial Studio]
[Mount Chiliad]
Angel Pine
Dillamore
[Vinewood]
[Gasso Gas Station]
Pay N' Spray
Orange Grove is the name of the area where Carl and his gang will live.
The Mountain, Mt. Chiliad, Is the biggest single object in the game.
There are tunnels and lots of foliage on the mountain.
There is a Liquor Store, Bakers, Single Screen Cinema and a Trailer Park in Angel Pine.
Dillamore contains a Gas Station.
Graphics
The graphics engine has been tweaked.
Smog will be present in Los Santos, and real-time reflections on cars, windows, and mirrors, as well as new techniques like radial lighting, which allows for more realistic
shadowing, and soft-shadow lighting for interior levels will be present.
Everything in the game now has independent models for day and night to give better lighting and shadowing.
Shadows can be used to hide yourself, to help pick off unsuspecting enemies.
Real sunlight is simulated, and shadows are placed where they would really be.
There are different sets of lighting for day and night which helps create a more realistic feel.
Weather effects have been added to.
There are various things to do and places to see in the countryside, such as farms which keeps the game feeling alive.
Vehicles will accumulate dirt and rust as you play through the game.
The HUD will be similar to that of GTA3 and Vice City.
There will not be as many 'pop-up' items while the player is moving throughout the game.
Trees will be rendered as a group from distance, but rendered separately as the player gets closer. This allows a much bigger draw distance.
The Draw Distance in the countryside is 4 times better than that in Vice City.
You will start to see clouds when you reach a certain altitude on Mt. Chiliad.
The foliage in the countryside is only drawn when the player can see it which keeps the game feeling vibrant and alive, but also maintains a steady framerate.
Game Play
The game will have rag-doll physics, or “Impact Animation” in Rockstars words.
In the Las Venturas city, you will be able to buy and build a casino and then run it you can then gamble your money in the casino.
You need to eat to retain your stamina. If you eat too much fast food, you become fat and pedestrians mock you for being fat. You also run slower and vehicles move slower. Beating certain missions is almost impossible unless you're in the right physical shape. To remedy this, you can go to a gym to exercise.
You can now rob homes. The robberies will require skill and planning, however.
You can recruit gang members and use them to do four person drive-by’s.
Being a Gang Member only makes up about 15% of the total game.
Carl Johnson can visit Old Reece (The Barber) and get his hair cut into numerous different styles which the player can decide. Pedestrians and characters will make remarks on your hair, depending if it looks cool or un-cool.
Carl and the Orange Grove Families can take over areas and generate money from them. This is just one of the many things which can add to the replay value even after the game has been 'completed'.
Swimming is now a part of the game, if you drive a vehicle into the water, you have two choices, climb out of the window and swim to shore, or stay in the car and sink, where you will have a certain amount of underwater stamina. Swimming will also be involved in some missions.
There are parts of the game where you will work as a gang, and parts where you will work alone.
The game is now very non-linear, and depending what choices are made, it will be rare for 2 players to have the same type of game. The missions will be the same, but so much can change depending on choices you make.
There will be In-Breds and Degenerates in the Countryside and some missions will reflect the contrast between the towny and the country people.
Characters have more bones which results in numerous different facial expressions.
There are now many more ways to complete missions. You could run straight in shooting, or sneak through the shadows and pick off the enemies one by one.
When the player only has one wanted star, hiding in the shadows should be enough to throw police off your trail.
The player must tap the X button on the bike in order to pedal faster.
The camera will automatically zoom behind the player at the touch of a button and
the player then has the ability to freely target using the analogue stick. The auto-target will still be a part of the game though.
The game will take at least three times longer to complete than Vice City.
The longer the player holds down the R1 button, the more chance there is of getting a headshot on an enemy.
Unlike previous GTA Games, the players stats actually change the way 'their Carl' will behave. If a player drives around on a bike a lot, they will be a good bike driver in the game, but won't be as good at driving a car.
The player may have the possibility to change clothes or get tattoos in the game.
Three confirmed hairstyles include "dripping Jheri curls, a fashionable Afro and a towering flattop."
Weapons
Your character can [Dual Wield] pistols, sub machine guns and potentially other weapons.
The choice of weapons will match the weapons of the early 90's.
So far we have seen:
[Colt. 45]
[Ingram Mac 10]
[Uzi 9mm]
[Spas 12 Gauge Shotgun]
[Chrome Shotgun]
[M-16 Assault Rifle]
[AK-47]
You will have an accuracy meter at the top left of the screen, and the more enemies
you hit, the better your accuracy will become.
The crosshairs which are aimed at people will change colour depending on how much health the enemy has. Green will symbolise almost full health, yellow represents half health, and red shows the character is almost dead.
Vehicles
There will be 90’s versions of some GTA3 / VC cars.
The following vehicles will most likely be in the game (probably under different names):
[Greenwood]
[Bobcat]
[Gang Truck]
[Lowrider]
[Manana]
[Pick Up Truck]
[Police Helicopter]
[Police Motorbike]
[LSPD Cop Car]
[Sentinel]
[Sports Car]
[Sabre]
[Sanchez]
[Virgo]
[Walton]
[Hatchback]
[Monster Truck]
[Combine Harvester]
[Gas Tanker]
[4 x 4 Jeep]
[Linerunner]
[Quad Bike]
Some vehicles are made specifically for the countryside, while others are for the streets of the city.
It is possible to attach and detach the trailer on the back of large trucks.
The Monster Truck does not have a hand brake, but rather the ability to switch to 4x4 steering mode, which gives the vehicle an extremely small turning circle which is great for navigating through the trees in the country side.
Players will have to be very careful when driving the Gas Tanker as it will Jack-Knife very easily.
[B]Artificial Intelligence
Enemy / pedestrian AI will be greatly revamped and they will think more logically. You can't beat someone to death in broad daylight and not have people notice and react.
Your enemies will be smarter, which will make robbing houses take a lot of skill.
Music
There will be a rap station, but there will be a variety of other stations as always.
There will be three times the amount of licensed music than in Vice City.
again ill keep updating the confirmation list as more news comes through
Massive Attack - Unfinished Sympathy
The Stone Roses - Fools Gold
Happy Mondays - Step On
The Verve - Bitter Sweet Symphony
Radiohead - Creep
:p
I certainly hope these songs are included, they're all top class
-=[101st]=-
23-07-2004, 09:10
well done jack:bluebirds:jack for compiling that extensive list.. i just read through it and fook me.. it looks awesome...
:p
I certainly hope these songs are included, they're all top class
No they're bollocks and were suggested in a magazine I dunno why he posted those (It's in OPSM2)
They might appear by fluke but don't take it for granted that they'll be there
Ryder Style
23-07-2004, 10:13
=-']well done jack:bluebirds:jack for compiling that extensive list.. i just read through it and fook me.. it looks awesome...
no worries, like i said ill keep updating it. cant wait for this game.
its out on the same day as PES4, if everyone had to choose between the 2 what would you do???
i would buy PES4 if i had to pick
http://forum.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?t=10495
I can't believe you guys - GTA no doubt
Ryder Style
23-07-2004, 11:01
lol mutu your sig is funny... an exact copy of my driv3r game.
no come on PES4 is gonna be class, ill play it much more than gta, even though GTA is awesome 2 :D
No they're bollocks and were suggested in a magazine I dunno why he posted those (It's in OPSM2)
They might appear by fluke but don't take it for granted that they'll be there
i said it was a rumoured list.
anyway there is some more new info which has been translated from the german magazine.
Carl can attack enemies from behind, after hiding and sneaking through the shadows.
- Carl's ability to swim and the length of time he can stay underwater for depends on his fitness and how often he practices swimming.
- Members of The Orange Grove Families wear green clothes.
- The Ballas gang members wear purple clothes.
- Models will include up to 50% more polygons than Vice City.
- Bicycles will move forward when the X button is held down, but tapping it will make the player travel faster.
- Carl can roll to the side during combat on the press of a button.
- Players can now pivot the camera around the car, in order to gain a better view.
- A choice of haircuts are available, from shaven/bald heads to 'Afro' style cuts.
- Players choose new hairstyles, but choices of beards and other facial hair will be at their disposal.
-=[101st]=-
24-07-2004, 07:49
you know.. the correct answer.. is... buy both :D
Nice Pictures Razor, i can't wait for this game....
WHOA !!! 5591 Post Since my last Visit :eek:
What if there was just one extra bar up top and you could flick through so it was like Petrol - Need to Pee* - Hunger - etc, and say by pressing i dunno l1 and l2 or whatever you can scroll through them
Oh and it wont be in SA but good idea though the petrol thing
*If you pee your pants no chick or gangmember is gona think thats fly and peeps will cross the street to avoid your funky smell - copyright mutus idea 2004
Copyright "The Sims" 1999-2000 :P
We learned long ago that Carl will be able to and will need to eat in GTA : San Andreas. Gamespot put that feature into much more detail today though, describing several things. Some people might have thought that there will only be a few places to eat throughout the state. That is not true though, not only will there be a lot of places, but also a lot of variety. ?Cluckin? Bell? is a resturant that will offer chicken based products. If the players don?t feel like eating chicken, they can stop by ?Burger Shot? to eat some burgers. To order and pay for food, the players need to stand in a red circle next to the counter. This is probably very similar to Vice Cities pink circles.
Along with the places to eat at, Gamespot also mentioned some more of CJ?s physical features. If he eats too much food in a short span of time, he will vomit. You can view how fat Carl gets in the screenshots below. They also mentioned that just because CJ might be thin, doesn?t mean he is in shape and physically fit. Sometimes players need to take Carl to the weight room and work out.
Here are the new screenshots with a massive thanks to DigitalD from GTASanAn.com for the un-watermarked versions.
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/official/gamespot/gs_1.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/official/gamespot/gs_2.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/official/gamespot/gs_3.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/official/gamespot/gs_4.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/official/gamespot/gs_5.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/official/gamespot/gs_6.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/official/gamespot/gs_7.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/official/gamespot/gs_8.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/official/gamespot/gs_9.jpg
Earlier today, Gamespot declared that the news posted on July 20 about Death Row Records confirming Snoop Dogg and Dr Dre are to play a role in the soundtrack of San Andreas as "Not Bogus" in its weekly 'Rumour Control' feature.
What we heard: Although the post was taken down within hours, it was picked up by several other sources, including Death Row fan site thuglifearmy.com and the official UK PlayStation Web site. Given that the game draws heavily from 1990s 'hood movies, the fact that it would have musical accompaniment from tha G-Funk era was a foregone conclusion. But getting some of the biggest hits of the gangsta-rap genre shows how great the stature of the Grand Theft Auto franchise has become.
Bogus or not bogus?: Not bogus. Now all GTA: SA needs is some N.W.A.
some more info on the food system
New information:
-- Three franchise restaurants are to be included: Burger Shot, Well Stacked Pizza and Cluckin Bell, a Mr. Whoopee ice cream stand, as well as the Sprunk Soda brand beverage which was in Vice City.
-- A message will pop up onscreen when Carl becomes hungry. Players who ignore this message will see CJ's bodyfat reduce, with the effect of his clothes no longer fitting properly. Skininess won't just have a visual effect either, a thin Carl will be weak, unable to throw powerful punches, lift heavy boxes and will lack stamina, meaning cycling, running and swimming become difficult.
-- Conversely, eating too much will see Carl become fat, with similar effects of loss of stamina, poor fighting abilities (due to slow response times AND CJ becoming a larger object to hit). Interestingly, the walking animation will change, to a penguin style 'waddle' due to CJ's inability to put his hands by his sides while in this state.
LOL, i was just about to post these, lol
Ogopa Djz
26-07-2004, 00:29
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/official/gamespot/gs_4.jpg
Smack dat virtual ass. :D
sam erasa
26-07-2004, 02:16
i am definitly getting the game is going to be the biggest selling game ever.
Ogopa Djz
26-07-2004, 17:16
i am definitly getting the game is going to be the biggest selling game ever.
Yeah this and halo 2 are gonna empty alot of wallets this holiday season.
From a Magazine in Australia!
-You can scavage though the streets and find interesting objects to use for self defence. For Instance the mag uses the example of being chased unequipped and you go find a bottle in a dumpster.
-Phillet's is a fish orientated restuarant which you can take away from.
-Rodney's Roadside Diner is a place in the countryside - Didn't say if you can eat there, but from a pic it seems you can go in there.
-Jumping off tall buildings will now result in ugly deaths.
-You can whack people accross the head with weapons.
-Los Santos is 1 and a half times the size of Vice City.
-In Los Santos there is a dock which has a carnival.
I don't have a scanner but here is the description of the screens once again:
CJ and 3 guys with green shattered bottles walking at night time down a backstreet with graffiti - It says on the wall Ballas with huge women's tits in a bikini.
-A fat old guy reading a news paper inside of a hair salon.
-Inside of what seems to be Phillet's, 2 people are sitting down and a guy dressed up in a blue uniform is behind the counter. CJ is wearing white singlet, blue jeans and black and white shoes standing in front of an ordering menu.
-CJ walking on some docks - It looks like some sort of carnival is going on.
CJ and Ryder in a basketball court (looks like a cut scene from the angle and close ups.
Ryder talking to a white guy in a Pizza parlour - Definitely a cutscene.
CJ standing outside of a Roadside Diner 'Rodney's?' see a sign behind him with a toilet.
CJ riding a motorbike into some sort of country town.
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PS2M UK has released new info (tidbits, mind you) about San Andreas. It includes the following:
- San Andreas is to be shaped like "america". Notably, Los Santos being in the lower right hand corner.
- At Reece's Barber shop, you can scroll through a series of haircuts and styles. some are about $500 to the maximum. (Who would pay that much for a haircut? Madonna?)
- Due to harsh sunrays, some of the streets will be tinted with a orange hue. Probaly explains the mysterious orange haze in some screens.
- During a 4 person driveby, the players will have independant targets for them. There is also a "health" indicator for the gang's car.
- Achivements met during some missions will have CJ acquire more and better leisures for him.
the orange streets scare me a lot. it might be soooo shit. i have a bad feeeling about it.
GMR's september issue just came out and has new details. Minor but very good information nonetheless.
-Other San Andreas towns are: Shady Creeks, Flint County, Whetstone, Fern Ridge, and Red County. Possibly other stereotypical town names as well.
-Each city will have its own airport including a working Dodo (fancy that!)
-You will be able to pickup hitchhikes (...no comment...)
-Operateable tow trucks are accessible. If you use your noggin, you could make some sadistic situations using this gem. >:]
-A 360 camera is in use. Use the right analog stick to use it.
-A crapload of outfits are avalible. Topping Vice City's number of clothes.
7RONALDO7
29-07-2004, 21:34
WOW I cannot wait for this game!!!!!! I have got 32 screenshots of the game and if I can post the site with them on i will show you!!
WOW I cannot wait for this game!!!!!! I have got 32 screenshots of the game and if I can post the site with them on i will show you!!
What do you mean if you can?
If you've got the site address then post it
An Australian magazine, Games ? has a new article about San Andreas. Unlike most articles featuring the cities of San Andreas, this is actually about the state of San Andreas and the new gameplay features which we can expect to see when we get our hands on the game in October. There aren't really any new screenshots apart from maybe one showing a few small buildings in one of the countryside towns, however it's nothing special to worry about.
A lot of what was mentioned has been seen and written before, however some things were discussed in a lot more detail, and some unknown things were released to the readers. One of the first main things we'll pick out from the article is the stats. We know previous GTA games have had statistics tracking, however nothing on the scale of San Andreas. There's going to be a lot of stats which will be associated with everything that you do in the game. Running, Swimming, Shooting, Driving Cars, Driving Motorcycles, Driving Bikes, Swimming, Sprinting, Strength, literally everything will be recorded for your stats screen. The more time you spend doing certain things, the better you will become. While we already heard the basics of this from other magazines, there's a little more detail here. If you spend a lot of time driving a motorbike, your stats will increase, but that's not all. What will actually happen is that the more you drive on the motorbike, the better you will be able to drive it. Things like it's handling when turning corners, braking and even how easily you fall off will all be built up as you work on the statistics. We also pick out from the article that statistics are not necessary, but useful. While a few missions will require you to be in shape, Rockstar assures us that you do not need to spend hours levelling up before attempting a mission, and that you will gradually build up your stats as you play through the game, however hardcore players may wish to perfect their stats to make the game a lot more fun and interesting.
Games ? also covered part of the eating section of the game. As we already know, each different type of food, and each size of food will cost a differing amount of money, however what we know now is that each food will have it's own stamina rating to a degree. Some will be healthier some will be fatter, and depending which you eat, CJ's physical shape and fitness will change, however you can balance out what you eat with exercise. If you eat too much junk food or way too much normal food you'll become fat and pedestrians will call you a "Fat Bastard". If that wasn't hurtful enough, your gang will also tell you "Dude, you need to lose some weight".
Every pedestrian and non-player character has a brain. We've heard that all before, however not in as much detail. They don't just have a brain as in walking around on screen and avoiding cars like in Vice City, but they actually live in the game world. If you wish to be a stalker, you can follow a pedestrian. In the morning he'll get up, go out of his house, and will then have a destination to go to. The pedestrian will go to work, go to the store, meet up with a girl et cetera. This blows Vice Cities level of interactivity with pedestrians out of the water, but there's more! You might even see a couple walking down the street holding hands and if you push between them, they'll react and grab each other again. Along with the pedestrians actions, there is also a huge amount of new dialogue. Each type of pedestrian will now have an hour of dialogue compared with what we called a large 10 minutes which they were given in Vice City.
The magazine also discusses some smaller features which are equally, if not more important that most of the stuff mentioned before. Carjacking. How can you have a game about stealing cars without carjacking playing a huge part? You cant, which is exactly why Rockstar Games have changed the animations when performing a jacking. You'll pull open the door, beat the driver and then throw them out onto the road. We've also heard that you'll be able to bust some big moves on the bike which could add even more replay value to the game as people will be able to stunt off all sorts of objects and pull some sweet moves. The final main point which the magazine discusses is that the dodo from GTA3 will make a return, however this time it's not going to have clipped wings. There'll be a ?Full Wing Dodo' in San Andreas which will be driveable or rather flyable and also very useful for crossing the huge state of San Andreas
MattShez
31-07-2004, 21:22
I WILL NOT be buying san andreas, yeah vice city was great, but has anybody got tired of that game by now? I dont think it will be a classic?
7RONALDO7
31-07-2004, 21:25
Yeh but you get bored of every game, well apart from PES!!!
MattShez, didn't you get bored of PGR2????
And SA will be a classic just because you say it wont, doesn't mean it wont!!
Some New Shit....Looks Dope
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/534/534690/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-20040730111415249.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/534/534690/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-20040730111415999.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/534/534690/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-20040730111415515.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/534/534690/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-20040730111419671.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/534/534690/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-20040730111418202.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/534/534690/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-20040730111418436.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/534/534690/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-20040730111417358.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/914983_20040730_screen001.jpg
Theres some other new ones on Game Spot, too, but i cant get on to it onto the screens page, someone else try
tthose screens Young GE posted are from a huge article on IGN. there is also an article on Gamespot. vheck them, if the screens dont make yoour mouth water the articles definately will!
Ryder Style
02-08-2004, 15:13
yes october 22nd is the release date set, just think, pes4 and gta sa all in a week!
More screens, check out the gym:
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/534/534690/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-20040730111416561.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/534/534690/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-20040730111419093.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/914983_20040730_screen004.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/914983_20040730_screen009.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/914983_20040730_screen007.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/914983_20040730_screen008.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/914983_20040730_screen014.jpg
EDIT: Some more screens, including a shot of the skyline in Los Santos
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/roof.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/camino.jpg
Ogopa Djz
04-08-2004, 17:46
Damn looks sweet.Jus hope i dont get bored off it after a few hours.
7RONALDO7
04-08-2004, 18:29
The first car looks like a Toyota Supra at the front and a Ferrari 355 at the back!!!
I like the gym and the fact that you can become fat!!
some new information about the swimmin on ps2.ign.com there are also a few new screenshots showing CJ swimming.
New screenshots, taken from GTAGaming.com
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/vinewood2.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/vinewood1_8.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/train.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/the_grove.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/streetsign.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/rodeo2.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/overpass.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/freeway_17.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/freeway.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/Docgrecords.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/convention.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/beach2.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/beach1.jpg
Fuck me, it's gets better with every new set of screenshots.
Gun_Runner
09-08-2004, 22:58
the 'spaghetti junction' lookalike screen looks good IMO
7RONALDO7
09-08-2004, 23:00
I can't wait for it to come out but is it just me that thinks that all GTA games have the same "bright(neon)" glow graphics??
An interesting new screenshot, it shows CJ playing basketball, according to gtagaming.com it is an in-game screenshot, not a cut-scene.
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/538/538257/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-20040812114257946.jpg
7RONALDO7
13-08-2004, 19:08
WOW, thats great, he will become like Michael Jordan!
Go to GTAGaming (www.gtagaming.com) for all the screenshots so far, including burglaries.
7RONALDO7
18-08-2004, 17:39
Kewl, thanks Gary G!!
Like all of you, I can't wait for this game either!! I love the gta serie so far ans why wouldn't San Andreas be as good or even better than the others?? I'm looking forward to it! Very much...!...
qwerty12
18-08-2004, 18:56
Agreed. If its anywhere near as good as VC twill be a blast.
New Shit !!!!!
http://img50.exs.cx/img50/1404/riders4.jpg
http://img58.exs.cx/img58/3238/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-20040812114257946.jpg
http://fivestarstuff.com/images/screenshots/screen126.jpg
http://fivestarstuff.com/images/screenshots/screen127.jpg
http://fivestarstuff.com/images/screenshots/screen125.jpg
http://fivestarstuff.com/images/screenshots/screen124.jpg
http://fivestarstuff.com/images/screenshots/screen123.jpg
http://fivestarstuff.com/images/screenshots/screen122.jpg
http://fivestarstuff.com/images/screenshots/screen121.jpg
http://fivestarstuff.com/images/screenshots/screen120.jpg
http://fivestarstuff.com/images/screenshots/screen118.jpg
http://fivestarstuff.com/images/screenshots/screen117.jpg
http://fivestarstuff.com/images/screenshots/screen119.jpg
Tupac
http://www.streethop.com/images.php?image=misc/gta2pac01.jpg
Tupac 2
http://www.streethop.com/images.php?image=misc/gta2pac02.jpg
Missy Elliot
http://www.streethop.com/images.php?image=misc/gtamissyelliot.jpg
Eazy E (U Would Of Seen This Already)
http://www.streethop.com/images.php?image=misc/gtaeasye01.jpg
Ryder Style
19-08-2004, 22:37
I am looking forward to this more by the day. It seems so much more gangsta which i like alot! octobers gonna be a gd month
Some more screens:
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/fansite_exclusive_4.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/fansite_exclusive_3.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/fansite_exclusive_2.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/fansite_exclusive_1.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/fansite_exclusive_0.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/sa4.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/sa2.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/sa1.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/robbery4.jpg
id really like to see another GTA:London but for the PS2
Yeah a bit like The Getaway, but better.
Ogopa Djz
20-08-2004, 16:08
id really like to see another GTA:London but for the PS2
You guys had your chance. ;)
7RONALDO7
21-08-2004, 12:45
I like how they are now making the cars more reconisable!!!!
Gun_Runner
21-08-2004, 13:19
I like the fact that u can break into peoples houses and that the game is based in the ghetto:)
Ogopa Djz
21-08-2004, 22:15
Yo Folkz i got a the official GTA:SA trailer.If the this music is an example of the quality of the ingame music Damn this game is gonna rock. :cool:
http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/611/611957/vids_1.html
That trailer looks canny
I'm not sure if this is correct but in one of those screens, it looks like CJs driving a dodge viper?
Do you mean this one? I'm not sure it looks like a Dodge Viper
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/sa4.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/fansite_exclusive_1.jpg
The car above looks a lot like this one:
http://www.cvwoc.co.uk/images/Mark%201%20Golf.jpg
Also from GTAGaming.com is this Los Santos map:
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/maps/lossantosmap.jpg
Ogopa Djz
22-08-2004, 02:04
Nice pics.Wat would really juice this game up would be downloadable updates x-box live style. :rolleyes:
The map has a lot of similar features to older GTA's...
Seperate Islands
Airpost
Docks
Beach
Marina
However i really do like the look of "Hanky Panky Point"
7RONALDO7
22-08-2004, 12:29
That trailer looks canny
Do you mean this one? I'm not sure it looks like a Dodge Viper
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/sa4.jpg
No, this is not a Dodge Viper, as I would know if it was because it is my favourite car.......This car on the screenshot looks more like a Ford GT40, shown here:
http://img31.exs.cx/img31/9311/untitled25.bmp
mad music nice cars briiliant gameplay im sure this game is gonna be sick
some scans
http://img61.exs.cx/img61/8840/page9.jpg
http://img61.exs.cx/img61/3692/page10.jpg
http://img61.exs.cx/img61/3624/page11.jpg
http://img61.exs.cx/img61/4994/page12.jpg
http://img13.exs.cx/img13/3692/page10.jpg
http://img13.exs.cx/img13/8840/page9.jpg
New Info:
-One of the city blocks in San Fierro is called Hashbury after Haight and Ashbury which were 2 hippy neighbourhoods from the 1960's.
-A Hippy Shopper store (double groan) lies in the background, with a VW Camper Van parked out front.
-A NRG 500 is added to the game to replace the PCJ 600
-Cobra Martial Arts is the name of the Dojo were CJ can learn Karate.
-One of the karate moves is the drop heel kick. (I got no idea what that is so if anyone could explain it)
-You can combine diffrent attacks to make your own style.
-Two other techniques are the running front kick and the hook-your-heel-behind-the-enimies-neck like thing.
-One of the radio stations is K-Jah West FM which has Dub and Jazz music.
-There is a place called Doherty which has some things that remind you of the 1989 eartquake.
-There is a building which CJ has bought with some other friends.
-CJ and Cesar have a mission in which they want to steal some motors at Otto's Autos. Which is located in the San Fierro version of Embercadero.
-Garden Bridge is the name of the San Fierro version of Bay Bridge.
-TransFender is the name of the shop were CJ can pimp his ride.
-Some confirmed vehicles are :
- FCR 900 bike
- ZR350 Sports Car
- School Bus
- Golf Car
- Low Rider Mustang
- Trains
- Cement Mixer
-You can change your cars:
- Exhaust
- Front Bumper
- Rear Bumper
- Roof
- Spoilers
- Wings
- Wheels
-Piming your car doesn't make it faster but it would probably boost your respect bar.
-The only way you can make your car faster is by adding a nitro. (Just think of having a FCR 900 bike and ad a Nitro. Damn.I hope you can pimp your bike to)
- It doesn't seem to be possible to get your car or motor into a Jumbo Jet so you will need to use the vehicle itself probably.
- One radiostation is Flash FM.
- One hill (which is very windy) is called Lombard Street.
- Wu Zi Mu's a.k.a. is Wuzi.
-One of Wu Zi Mu's missions is called Da Nang Thang.
- Confirmed weapons :
- Knuckle Duster
- 12 Gauge Shotgun
- Rocket Launcher
- Rocket Launcher
- Katana
- Uzi 9mm (twin-handed)
- Colt .45
- M-16 Assault Rifle
- AK-47
- Ingram Mac 10
- Chrome Shotgun
- You can climb. (I hope he can also climb the camper)
- In Da Nang Thang you need to free hostiges from a tanker. You do this by driving your car in the water and get out of the car. Then you need to swim towards the tanker. You use a knife to kill one gaurd. Then you get his shotgun and try to kill 2 other guards. After that you need to fight Head Honcho with a Katana. After a short fight (in the demo it just took 20 sec. to cut of Head Honcho's) you leave in a dinghy and earn $30,000.
- San Fierro's version of the Golden Gate Bridge is called the Gant Bridge.
- Some locations from San Fierro :
- Hashbury and Garcia
- Cranberry Station
- Paradiso
- Juniper Hill
- Westpack
- King
- Calton Heights
- Esplanade North
- There will probably be a dessert left of the countryside.
-=[101st]=-
24-08-2004, 00:22
ohh i can't wait... this game is looking better and better.. and i recommend that anyone in australia that is looking to purchase this game.. look to purchase it from NZ as it will be censored in the Aussie version..
just looked on the rockstar site and they have a interactive map, with location to look at and vidoe clips (like they did for gta3)
also they guy that give the information is a cop (referst to crimal records, wire taps and said something about being with the force, could this be another person we meet in game, like kent paul?
sorr if this has been posted
YES! i cant wait, im pre-ording mine right now :D off Amazon. :D :D :D
The Game (in G-Unit) is in San Andreas, Doing the voice of 'B-Dup' here is the proof....
http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/
on the main screen, click on los santos
Then, click on 'Ganton'
Then go to the bottom left 'x' this is 'B-Dup's house, click on that
Click on 'more'
Aight then theres a grey box hidden behind the green one, its below the X. (youll know what i mean when you see it.
Click on this to hear a wire tap of B-Dup.
Anyone who listens to Game, will know its him.
And there's a character called 'OG loc' whos a wanksta. it says
'OG Loc - Wannabe Gangsta Rapper, Jeffery Martin has no criminal record. He does have some unpaid parking fines but is unlikely to be a threat. Do not, repeat do not listen to his music.'
Does that sound like Ja Rule to you? Ja Rules real name is Jeffery Atkins, lol, Look at this guys picture on the site, it looks just like him, lol
See for your self
loool no shit it is him, forget diss tracks - now they got him in the biggest game of 2004 too :D
lol :D, there are quite a few new short clips on there too, check it out. i cant wait :D
Taken from GTAGaming (www.gtagaming.com), first info about Las Venturas:
There are plenty of casinos to gamble in, like the V-Rock Casino, styled like the Hard Rock Cafe. Other Casinos include "The Visage", "Pirates in Men's Pants", "Caligula's Palace" and "The Pink Swan".
-- While in a casino, there are a variety of minigames available to play, such as Blackjack, Video Poker, Wheel of Fortune, Slots and Craps.
-- Elvis Presley impersonators are present in Las Venturas for a little bit of drunken humor.
-- The famous Las Vegas cowboy sign is included in San Andreas, but features Avery Carrington (of Vice City Fame) instead.
-- A giant Candy Suxx statue adorns the exterior of one of Las Venturas' buildings
First screenshots of Los Venturas
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/lasventuras1.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/lasventuras2.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/lasventuras3.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/image.php?i=/images/sanandreas/screenshots/lasventuras4.jpg
WOW! Those screens look amazing. Some good cars to choose from this time as well. The most interesting thing for me is the city map, because it looks like this game will be BIG!
Is the release date for GTA:SA still worryingly close to PES4? (you wait all summer for a good game and 2 come along at once)
Is the release date for GTA:SA still worryingly close to PES4? (you wait all summer for a good game and 2 come along at once)
GTA:SA was due to be released on the same day as PES4, October 22nd, but has now been delayed a week, it's new release date is the 29th.
soccer_ster_7
10-09-2004, 04:20
I can't wait for this game to hit stores...however thought of this game is awesome.
Nice screens, cant wait for this shit...
-=[101st]=-
12-09-2004, 04:49
It just got confirmed thaqt its coming to PC...
http://www.megagames.com/news/html/pc/gtasanandreaspcconfirmed.shtml
Thants good news, thanks for the info :)
Latest magazine scan and a normal size pic of that flyover, looks awesome :eek: I can't wait to jump off that!!
Ogopa Djz
17-09-2004, 00:27
Does anybody now the name of the song on the trailer??? :rolleyes:
Ryder Style
26-09-2004, 10:51
OK this is gonna be the biggest game of the year no doubt. thought id post all the information available so far...enjoy
General Information
The next GTA game will indeed be called Grand Theft Auto San Andreas and will, as far as we have been told, be Sony Playstation 2 exclusive. The game is said to be based on a number of recent films relating to the Californian gangster theme. The game will be produced on a dual layer DVD due to the enormous size and should take no less than 150 hours to complete for the average player.
The Story
Five years ago Carl Johnson escaped from the pressures of life in Los Santos, San Andreas... a city tearing itself apart with gang trouble, drugs and corruption. Where filmstars and millionaires do their best to avoid the dealers and gangbangers. Now, it's the early 90s. Carl's got to go home. His mother has been murdered, his family has fallen apart and his childhood friends are all heading towards disaster. On his return to the neighborhood, a couple of corrupt cops frame him for homicide. CJ is forced on a journey that takes him across the entire state of San Andreas, to save his family and to take control of the streets.
The Cities And Locations
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas will not just be a single city like it was in the previous two games. This time it will be a full state, which includes not one, not two, but three main cities and a number of towns and villages throughout. The state of San Andreas is made up of the cities; Los Angeles, San Francisco and Las Vegas which will be named Los Santos, San Fierro and Las Venturras respectively. Word has it that each single city will be the same size as the whole of Vice City therefore resulting in the full game being in the region of four to six times the size of the previous game. Along side the cities are the countryside and desert regions along with a mountain known as Mt. Chiliad which happens to be the biggest single object in the entire game. These out of city locations will provide a very big change in experience and also include a further twelve small towns for exploring. A few sources have also stated that each City will have it's own airport where a Full Winged Dodo can be found and flown.
Buildings
We are promised that there will be a lot more buildings which are open to entry than in Vice City. Each of the interiors are amazingly detailed and there are a number of different things which can be done inside of buildings. We have also been told that the only loading times in the game will be a short pause when you enter buildings which will certainly be a change from previous games. Some of the more interesting buildings include Reece's Barber Shop, a Tattoo Parlor and some of the fast food restaurants.
Graphics
The graphics engine from Vice City has been tweaked and as a result the graphics are looking a lot better than before, although it still looks like a GTA game. Smog will be present in Los Santos, and alongside that will be reflective surfaces, realistic shadowing and other types of lighting techniques. Every model in the game will have an independent model for day and night to improve the visual effects and shadowing. GTA San Andreas will take ideas from Manhunt in the way it introduces the ability to sneak through shadows where you will be able to pick off unsuspecting enemies. Real sunlight will be simulated and shadows will be placed realistically across the map. Along with this comes an addition to the weather effects. Vehicles will now accumulate dirt and rust as you play through the game. The Draw Distance in the game has been greatly improved from that in Vice City and will now be four times better in the countryside and up to two times better in the cities. When climbing the altitude on Mt. Chiliad, clouds will start to appear and in addition to this, the foliage in the countryside will only be drawn when the player can see it which improves the frame rate and keeps the game feeling vibrant and alive.
Game Play
A number of magazine articles have informed us that rag doll physics, or rather 'impact animation' will play a part in the game. Rumours also state that players will be able to buy and build, then run a casino in Las Venturras. You can recruit gang members and use them to do four person drive-by’s. More importantly we're told that being a Gang Member only makes up about 15% of the total game. Carl and the Orange Grove Families can take over areas and generate money from them. This is just one of the many things which can add to the replay value even after the game has been 'completed'. There are parts of the game where you will work as a gang, and parts where you will work alone. The game is now very non-linear, and depending what choices are made, it will be rare for 2 players to have the same type of game. The missions will be the same, but so much can change depending on choices you make. The characters have more bones which results in numerous different facial expressions. With the additions of sneaking, there are now many more ways to complete missions. You could run straight in shooting, or sneak through the shadows and pick off the enemies one by one. When the player only has one wanted star, hiding in the shadows should be enough to throw police off your trail. The camera will automatically zoom behind the player at the touch of a button and the player then has the ability to freely target using the analogue stick. The auto-target will still be a part of the game though. The longer the player holds down the R1 button, the more chance there is of getting a headshot on an enemy. The player can adjust the camera angle with the right analog stick. Carjacking animations have improved. Rather than pulling the driver out of the vehicle, CJ opens the door, whacks him in the face, and throws him onto the road. When using a gun, the right analog stick lets you aim with any and all ranged weapons. You can look in any direction, even when you're driving. Cars get dirty (even rust), and in turn you can now take em' through the car wash. Gangs now sport their own "social" clique. Have a good enough relationship inside the gang and they'll always be watching your back. The Police chopper searchlight now serves a much more important purpose. When shining down on you, you'll find that the searchlight impairs your ability to see clearly, making it harder to drive and shoot.
Weapons
Weapons can now be dual wielded in GTA San Andreas. This means you can be running along a street firing two Uzi's as the same time. We are also told that the choice of weapons will match the weapon selections of the early nineties. An accuracy meter will be displayed at the top left of the screen and the more enemies who are hit, the better the players accuracy will become. Crosshairs are also different and now more like those seen in Manhunt. They will turn Green if the targeted person has high health, yellow if the person has medium health and red if the character will die in the next shot.
Vehicles
A number of vehicles from GTA3 and GTA Vice City will reappear with slight modifications from their original models along with a huge selection of new vehicles including a BMX Bicycle, Mountain Bike, Police Motorbike, Monster Truck, Combine Harvester, Gas Tanker, Quad Bike and Full Winged Dodo to name a few. Some vehicles are made specifically for the countryside, while others are for the streets of the city. It is now possible to attach and detach the trailer on the back of large trucks. The Monster Truck does not have a hand brake, but rather the ability to switch to 4x4 steering mode, which gives the vehicle an extremely small turning circle which is great for navigating through the trees in the country side. Players will have to be very careful when driving the Gas Tanker as it will Jack-Knife very easily.
Artificial Intelligence
Enemy and pedestrian AI will be greatly revamped and they will think more logically. You can't beat someone to death in broad daylight and not have people notice and react. Your enemies will also be a lot smarter, which will make robbing houses and passing missions take a lot of skill. Each pedestrian has his or her own actions and animations based on where they live, and where they're at in the city or the country. It won't be uncommon to see two pedestrians walking down the street, holding hands. They will react it you walk between them, then hold hands again. Pedestrians have around an hour of dialogue each, as opposed to Vice City's 10 minutes. Pedestrians also have an independent existence in the game. You can follow them as they go through their daily routine (e.g. leaving their house, going to work, going to the store, meeting someone). Gang member AI is very advanced now. Gang members no longer stand around doing nothing during their downtime, they'll be chilling out with each other, smoking, drinking, greeting each other, and throwing gang signs. They'll even have conversations, too. Gang members also have different tactics to get you out of their territory. They may come at you at full force, or sit silently back waiting for you to get close and ambush you with a surprise attack.
Music
There will be a large number of radio stations in GTA San Andreas which will contain over three times the amount of licensed music than Vice City. Some of the new Radio stations include: SF-UR, Flash FM, Hit Radio and K-Jah West FM which will be playing a selection of Country, Rock, Funk/Soul, Reggae House, Alternative and Hip Hop with more expected.
New Features In Detail
House Robbery
One of the new features which we have heard about in GTA San Andreas is the ability to rob peoples homes. It seems this will be triggered like other R3 missions but can only be activated at night. It will involve sneaking into a pedestrians home, moving through their house and picking up objects to steal. They can then be placed in a truck and taken to a fence where they can be pawned for cash. Due to pedestrians living their own lives, players can expect to sneak up on sleeping victims and have the ability to hold them up with a shotgun or whatever other weapon they like. Be warned though that some pedestrians may be expecting a break in or have security defences in place which will make the robbery a bit harder, especially if you want to come away with your head intact.
Statistics And Ratings
Every previous GTA game in the series has contained scoring and statistics in some ways or others, and in a differing level of detail, however San Andreas aims to push this a lot further. No longer will statistics be used simply for score, but they will now effect the way your character changes. For example the more time you spend perfecting your skills on Motorbikes, the better you will become, and you will eventually 'level up' your skills which will increase certain attributes such as balance on the bikes, speed, handling and a variety of other things. This goes for everything too, the more you run, the longer you will be able to go for without getting tired, the more you shoot, the better accuracy you will have. The list goes on. Rockstar Games have also stated that some missions will require you to be skilled in a certain way before they can be completed successfully, although we have been assured that stats will be for the benefit of the player, but not required. Hardcore GTA fans can spend the time to level up all of their skills and make the strongest, toughest, most skilled character in the game whereas smaller players may just wish to keep everything simple. This is sure to increase the replay value after the game has been completed.
Eating
One of the stranger new addition to GTA San Andreas is the ability and requirement to eat food to stay fit. GTA Vice City introduced the ability to purchase food to regain health, however GTA San Andreas has actually implemented this as what could be considered a major part of the game. The player will have to head to one of the many restaurants and order a meal every few days or Carl will start to lose weight and become skinny and weak. Alternatively, eating too much food will result in Carl becoming overweight and moving extremely slowly. It will be up to the player to work out the perfect balanced diet for CJ. Rumours also have it that Carl will vomit should he be fed too much food in a short space of time.
Staying Fit
The eating section of San Andreas is undoubtedly a big factor in the gameplay, however one which is possibly bigger is the Staying Fit idea of the game. Previous games rewarded the player for the work they did. If they ran a lot, they would be able to sprint for longer before getting tired, but San Andreas will introduce a whole new set of objectives. The physical work that players put in while playing the game will have visual and physical effects on Carl and the gameplay. It will be very important to keep Carl in shape and the best way to remedy too many pizzas from the well stacked pizza company is the treadmill at the gym. Yeah, that's right, you can go to the gym to work out. We have seen such things as a treadmill, punch bag and a boxing ring so far and we've also been told that in each of the three gyms around the cities, different fighting techniques will be learned. In Los Santos we'll learn the basics of hand to hand combat, in San Fierro we'll be learning martial art kick combo's and in Las Venturras we'll be learning more rough and tough moves. Some missions require Carl to be in physical shape before they can be accomplished, however players will actually be building up his physique as they play through the game, sometimes without realising it.
Swimming
Another hugely requested new feature has been placed in the game by Rockstar. Once recorded as saying "Gangsters who swim are not cool", Rockstar have given in to the fans and allowed Carl to swim in San Andreas. This is great news for the reckless drivers who head straight off bridges and into water because as soon as you hit the water you'll have to option to escape the car and swim to shore. By default Carl will tread water however the player has the option to swim underwater where they have a limited supply of breath, or swim faster on the surface. It's unclear whether there'll be anything special under the water, although we can be pretty sure that there will be.
Haircuts
This is another new feature, however not exactly one which will add a great deal to the gameplay. The player now has the ability to get a haircut and wear a new style on his head. From what we have seen this is relatively simply done however it has been well documented so it was worth a mention. You walk into Reece's Barber Shop, sit in a chair and choose a new haircut, then pay for it, providing you have enough cash. The benefits of changing your hair adds to the uniqueness of each players character in game, but will also draw different reactions from pedestrians and gang members alike. If you want to be popular with the chicks, you're going to need a cool looking hairstyle. It seems that apart from the visual benefits and a few new pedestrian comments, haircuts will not be a massively important feature in the game, although good to have anyway.
Tattoos
Another new feature similar to Haircuts is the ability to get tattoos. Very much like the haircut feature you will walk into a tattoo parlour, sit in a chair and choose a tattoo and presumably a location you would like it done, then pay for it and watch the tattoo artist do his work. It is currently unknown if tattoo's will do anything in game apart from changing the look of your character, however gang respect may increase with more ink on your chest. We have also heard that you will be able to get a different selection of tattoos in each of the different cities, so they could become something of a collectors item. Tattoos could also be the prize of unlock able missions or side objectives.
Car Modifications
One of the latest new features we've heard about is the ability to modify your vehicle. Apparently any vehicle you take to Fender Bender will allow you to make changes to it, such as Exhausts, Front Bumper, Rear Bumper, Roof, Spoilers, Wings and the Colour. Obviously the prices are not cheap, and the changes will not effect physical vehicle performance, however it is what the fans asked for and once again Rockstar Games have provided. More information is certain to be released about this in the future, but this is pretty much all we know for now.
how cool is fender bender goona be!!
L . F . C
26-09-2004, 19:18
Five years ago Carl Johnson escaped from the pressures of life in Los Santos, San Andreas... a city tearing itself apart with gang trouble, drugs and corruption. Where filmstars and millionaires do their best to avoid the dealers and gangbangers.
Now, it's the early 90s. Carl's got to go home. His mother has been murdered, his family has fallen apart and his childhood friends are all heading towards disaster.
On his return to the neighborhood, a couple of corrupt cops frame him for homicide. CJ is forced on a journey that takes him across the entire state of San Andreas, to save his family and to take control of the streets.
Liberty City. Vice City. Now San Andreas, a new chapter in the legendary series. Grand Theft Auto returns to the PlayStation®2 this October.
FeaturesThe following are the features known so far with San Andreas:
Main Details:
"It's the third part in a loosely held together trilogy that started in 2001, that went to the mid '80s and has now come to the early '90s," said Dan Houser.
Three cities to roam beginning with "Los Santos" (Los Angeles), then going to "San Fierro" (San Francisco) and ending up at "Las Venturra" (Las Vegas). Countryside is inbetween each city. Los Santos will appear on the bottom-right side of the map.
The game's story has tripled in length as well as the number of music tracks when compared to Vice City.
Setting is the Early 1990s.
There are 12 small towns in the countryside.
There will be no multiplayer.
Your character's name is "Carl Johnson." "Carl is the most detailed character to appear in any GTA game before" now. (From Play Magazine)
"The entire game area is approximately four to six times as large as the entirety of either of the previous entries in the series," said Dan Houser. This most likely means land area.
You will be able to swim, but it won't be a major part of the game. You can climb out of your car window if you drive into water.
Abilities to control hairstyle, physique, weight, driving skills, clothes, possessions, weapon skills, character (how you act) and relationships.
About 16,000 unique objects and buildings will be included.
Four-person drive-by shootings are possible.
A new "stamina meter" gives you an indication of how much Carl needs to eat and exercise. You can get fat.
BMX Bicycles will be present. To pedal a bike, repeatedly tap (X). To bounce your car, use the right analog stick. You can also perform wheelies.
The auto-target system has been improved in that targets are green (healthy), yellow (below average health) and red (near death).
If you get stuck in the game, the game will adjust itself to make it easier. It will not be noticably easier, though.
More diverse missions will be present.
You can now get a haircut. It won't be something just to do for fun. Some missions require it. People will treat you by the way you dress and look. Three confirmed hairstyles include "dripping Jheri curls, a fashionable Afro and a towering flattop."
Some cops now ride on motorcycles are very reminiscent of the California Highway Patrol (CHiPs). They can hold on to the back of your car to try to catch you.
You have the ability to run a casino "which you will have bought and built," said Dan Houser.
You can rob houses, but they must be well-planned or you will not succeed.
Mountains and rivers are present in the countryside, including one huge mountain. Desert is also in the game.
The huge mountain is called Mount Chiliad. It is the largest object in the game. The mountain is "about half a mile tall" and has plenty of trails, cliff-top roads and tunnels.
Tech Stuff
Expect "real-time reflections on cars, windows, floors, and mirrors, as well as new techniques like radial lighting, which allows for more realistic shadowing, and soft-shadow lighting for interior levels," said Game Informer.
35%-50% Increased Polygon Count over Vice City.
"Impact animation," also known as ragdoll physics, will be included.
Compared to Vice City, draw distance has doubled in urban areas and is four times as far as in rural areas.
The game is so big that it needs a dual-layer DVD.
Everything in the game now has independent models for day and night to give better lighting and shadowing.
When switching from city to countryside or vice versa, there will be no more "postcard loading times." It will be "seamless."
Only the foilage (grass, trees, bushes) that can be seen on the screen is rendered.
The only loading times in GTA:SA are slight pauses when entering buildings.
Due to the improved engine, more pedestrians and vehicles can be on the screen at the same time.
Enhanced A.I. where every character has a "brain."
There will be less pop-up of distant objects. Houses can be seen from far away.
Groups of trees will be rendered as a group from distance. If you get closer, they'll be rendered seperately. Because of this, a bigger draw distance is possible.
For the PlayStation 2 version, the goal of the programmers is to achieve a constant frame rate of 30 frames per second. But, in extreme situations when there are lots of cars and pedestrians on the screen, the Official PlayStation 2 Magazine (Germany) says that the game still has some slowdown issues.
Confirmed Gangs:
The Ballas
The Flats
Confirmed Towns/Suburbs
Los Santos, San Fierro and Las Venturra make up the three cities.
Vinewood is a part of Los Santos and is the fake name for Hollywood.
Shady Creeks, Flint County, Whetstone, Fern Ridge, Red County, Angel Pine and Dillamore are some of the small towns/counties in the countryside.
Confirmed Vehicles
BMX Bicycle
Linerunner (some haul gasoline tanks)
Quad bike can be raced around dirt tracks.
Combine Tractor
Regular Tractor
Manana
Monster Truck
Patriot
Sanchez
Rancher
RV/Camper (Winnebago)
Skimmer/Dodo (variation with wheels)
Mesa Grande
Sabre
Walton
Greenwood
Police Maverick
Esperanto
Police Motorcycle
Sentinel
Confirmed Weapons:
Fists
Colt 45
M-16 Assault Rifle
Ingram Mac-10
Chrome Shotgun
AK-47
Known San Andreas Establishments:
The Well-Stacked Pizza Place
St. Brutus Motel (Los Santos)
Tuff Nut Donuts
MAMA'S
"Reece's Hair Facial Studio" is one of the barbershops. The barber's name is "Old Reece."
Characters Returning from Previous GTA games:
Don Salvatore Leone (GTA III mob boss)
A female character from a previous GTA game returns (from Play Magazine) and has a hideout in the forest.
Voice Actors Not Returning from Previous GTA games *
Dennis Hopper (Steve Scott in Vice City)
Danny Trejo (Umberto Robina in Vice City)
Miscellaneous Details:
Tumbleweed is present in the desert.
Trolley cars will be present in San Fierro.
For the game's opening, you arrive from Liberty City at the airport where Frank Tenpenny and Eddie Polaski (two corrupt cops) pick you up. Instead of taking you home, they drop you off in a rival gang territory where you must get the BMX bike and get away.
The average pedestrian will have six times the amount of dialog as compared to Vice City.
"Car-jacking has an even more sinister and threatening vibe than before," said Game Informer.
Dan Houser, co-founder of Rockstar Games, says that he cannot find any way to complete the game in less than 150 hours.
LSPD (Los Santos Police Department) helicopters are present and look like the Maverick helicopter from Vice City.
Cars can accumulate dirt.
Police helicopters can aim their blades near the ground to stop your car or cut you up.
"Menace" is a mission name (from "Menace II Society). Other mission names include "Drive-By" and "Reuniting the Families."
The textures will be photographed ones as well as self-drawn ones.
"Vinewood" is the GTA name for "Hollywood" on the Hollywood sign.
Smog is present in Los Santos.
Each city will have it's own airport with an accessible Dodo.
It's possible to pickup hitchhikers.
CJ can operate tow trucks.
The camera will automatically zoom behind CJ at the press of a button. Then you can aim freely with the analog stick. But as an alternative to that, there will also be the aiming-aid.
Some parts of missions will take place in the countryside outside of the three cities.
If you get too fat, those that give you missions have the ability to tell you to get in better shape before starting a certain mission.
*This was confirmed through the agents and managers of the actors by PlanetGrandTheftAuto.
New Screens:
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/screen14.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/screen11.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/sanfierro_medical.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/sanfierro_stadium.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/juniper_tanker.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/juniper_jizzys.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/juniper_gantbridge.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/garcia_rifa.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/easter_xoomer.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/easter_drydock.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/lasventuras1.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/angelpine_chiliad.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/angelpine_whetstone.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/doherty_cranberry.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/easter_danang.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/easter_aircraft.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/downtown_windy.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/downtown_valet.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/downtown_bigpointy.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/doherty_transfender.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/doherty_paynspray.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/doherty_garage.jpg
Scarface
26-09-2004, 23:21
god, this game looks amazing..the past 2 posts have got me almost hyperventilating..what with PES4 coming out october 15th and then this..so much 2 look forward 2 :D some of those screenshots are the best ive seen yet of GTA.SA..cant wait to get this game!
Great screens....i saw the new trailer too (2nd one), its class.
Mm havent read much about GTA:SA recently but now I read all this again and I want this game way more then PES4!! I already played WE8 way to much PES4 wont be much different so come here with GTA:SA!! This game is gonne be splendid.
codename 47
27-09-2004, 10:24
my only worry about the game is will it live up to the hype, alot of people are worried about the ps2 being able to handle all of this stuff
Mm havent read much about GTA:SA recently but now I read all this again and I want this game way more then PES4!! I already played WE8 way to much PES4 wont be much different so come here with GTA:SA!! This game is gonne be splendid.
I see we've finally won G over, before it was all "PES4 this" and "PES4 that" blah blah blah
GTA is gonna be slick :cool: I wonder what kind of % of the buildings you can go into this time
I see we've finally won G over, before it was all "PES4 this" and "PES4 that" blah blah blah
GTA is gonna be slick :cool: I wonder what kind of % of the buildings you can go into this time
:)
But....if WE8 or PES4 both would be released on the same time as GTA:SA I would rather have W......yes WE8 :) But thank god for that the companies wont release at the same time!!
Now back on topic:
I also wonder if the PS2 can handle all this...But who am I to judge that?
codename 47
27-09-2004, 19:39
from all the magazine previews i've read they don't seem to concered about the ps2,except psm2 last issue they seemed quite negative about some of the features(i suppose its better than hyping the game up)
do you think it will live up to the hype ?
from all the magazine previews i've read they don't seem to concered about the ps2,except psm2 last issue they seemed quite negative about some of the features(i suppose its better than hyping the game up)
do you think it will live up to the hype ?
No, but only because the hype is "this game will be the best game ever, 100%"
I could be wrong though, maybe this game will be even better then the last two when they were released :D To be honest I think GTA:SA will be a solid 94% or so, let down by trying to do so much, being revolutionary but not being able to work that well as a single game but still being a must buy.
....But it'll kick arse no matter what :cool:
its going to be there or there abouts, you have to fail to improve so im with mutu, probably a 94%. Hey, if it was a 100% what do u do if the next ones better?
codename 47
27-09-2004, 20:12
especially if the next one(gta 4) is on the next generation of computers
yeah cant wait to run a muck in the streets
codename 47
28-09-2004, 16:43
do you think there will ever be an xbox version,considering how quick microsoft want xbox 2 to come out ?
i think an xbox version is out next spring along with PC version, not sure though
killeroneuk
30-09-2004, 23:47
Hi
Can't wait for this game to come out along with 3 others PES 4, MGS 3 + DMC 3! :cool:
New screens
1 (http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/screenshots/images/screen_150.jpg), 2 (http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/screenshots/images/screen_151.jpg), 3 (http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/screenshots/images/screen_152.jpg), 4 (http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/screenshots/images/screen_153.jpg)
They don't show anything new, I like the look of the dirt track below the helicopter though.
We're in October it's nearly here now people :D
nufcfan123
03-10-2004, 19:23
that dirt track is called the "windy windy windy windy windy road"
its on the official site www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas and the san fierro section, then downtown, then you will find it :D
nufcfan123
03-10-2004, 23:26
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/sanfierro_dinghy.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/sanfierro_carlcamper.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screenshots/sanfierro_carlbike.jpg
it has no competition its is th only game on the market like it, it is a quality game with 1 problem, police are too thick and there tanks dont fire shells, no jet fighter either
codename 47
06-10-2004, 19:40
there's not long left till the first san andreas review
(finally my 200th post :D )
South Dorset Blue
09-10-2004, 11:04
i dont know if this has already been posted ive just put down a £3 deposit in games so i defintely get a copy.the manager went to a meeting on wednesday and there is going to be only 200,000 copies released on the day.if you alreay know this im sorry just ignore it
it has no competition its is th only game on the market like it, it is a quality game with 1 problem, police are too thick and there tanks dont fire shells, no jet fighter either
What tanks don't fire shells?!
btw that was 3 problems not 1
Just a few days away from release and no news? Whats going on? I probably won't be buying the game on release day cos I'm skint right now (hence the username).
To anyone who actually does buy the game on release day, let us know what the game is like, info, pics etc, etc in this thread.
Go to GTAGaming (www.gtagaming.com) for all the news etc
Here is the full tracklistin for the game.
Master Sounds 98.3
DJ: Johnny "The Love Giant" Parkinson
The world's smallest giant, Johnny Parkinson, takes you on a musical, spiritual and sexual journey with a sound track of nonstop classics. The giants of soul, rare groove and just a little classic funk, hosted by the giant himself. Remember, height is not a number.
1. Charles Wright - Express Yourself
2. Maceo And The Macks - Cross The Tracks (We Better Go Back)
3. Harlem Underground Band - Smokin' Cheeba Cheeba
4. The Chakachas - Jungle Fever
5. Bob James - Nautilus
6. Booker T And The MGs - Green Onions
7. The Blackbyrds - Rock Creek Park
8. Bobby Byrd - Hot Pants
9. Bobby Byrd - I Know You Got Soul
10. James Brown - Funky President
11. James Brown - The Payback
12. Lyn Collins - Think About It
13. Lyn Collins - Rock Me Again And Again
14. Maceo And The Macks - Soul Power 74
15. The JBs - Grunt
16. War - Low Rider
17. Gloria Jones - Tainted Love
18. Sir Joe Quarterman - So Much Trouble In My Mind
Playback FM
DJ: Forth Right MC
The mouthiest man in hip-hop, Forth Right MC, brings real hip-hop to the left coast. East Coast sensibilities and Forth Right's unique brand of conspiracy theory lead you in a historic lesson.
1. Kool G - Road To The Riches
2. Big Daddy Kane - Warm It Up Kane
3. Spoonie G - The Godfather
4. Masta Ace - Me And The Biz
5. Slick Rick - Children's Story
6. Public Enemy - Rebel Without A Pause
7. Eric B And Rakim - I Know You Got Soul
8. Rob Base And DJ EZ Rock - It Takes Two
9. Gang Starr - BYS
10. Biz Markie - The Vapours
11. Brand Nubian - Brand Nubian
12. Ultramagnetic MCs - Critical Breakdown
Bounce FM
DJ: The Funktipus
The indescribable Funktipus plays the indefinable funk. The sound that has had Los Santos partying for twenty years is now on 'The Party', on Bounce FM. The Funktipus will open your eyes to what is really happening out there.
1. Zapp - I Can Make You Dance
2. Kool And The Gang - Hollywood Swinging
3. Ohio Players - Love Rollercoaster
4. Rick James - Cold Blooded
5. Maze - Twilight
6. Fat Back - Yum Yum
7. Isley Brothers - Between The Sheets
8. Ronnie Hudson - West Coast Poplock
9. Lakeside - Fantastic Voyage
10. George Clinton - Loopzilla
11. Dazz Band - Let It Whip
12. Cameo - Candy
13. Ohio Players - Funky Worm
K-DST
DJ: Tommy "The Nightmare" Smith
Tommy Smith, formerly with 1970s progressive rock act, Crystal Ship, has now taken up residence on the home of driving rock radio. K-DST 'The Dust' plays non-stop classic rock and roll.
1. Foghat - Slow Ride
2. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Green River
3. Heart - Barracuda
4. Kiss - Strutter
5. Toto - Hold The Line
6. Rod Stewart - Young Turks
7. Tom Petty - Running Down A Dream
8. Joe Cocker - Woman To Woman
9. Humble Pie - Get Down To It
10. Grand Funk Railroad - Some Kind Of Wonderful
11. Lynyrd Skynyrd - Free Bird
12. America - A Horse With No Name
13. The Who - Eminence Front
14. Boston - Smokin'
15. David Bowie - Someone Up There Likes Me
16. Eddie Money - Two Tickets To Paradise
17. Billy Idol - White Wedding
K-Jah Radio West
DJ: Marshall Peters & Johnny Lawton
From JA to SA. The legendary Marshall Law sound system has moved from Kingston to San Andreas, bringing with them the best in dancehall, raga, reggae and dub. It's one love as Peters and Lawton argue about everything.
1. Black Harmony - Don't Let It Go To Your Head
2. Blood Sisters - Ring My Bell
3. Shabba Ranks - Wicked Inna Bed
4. Buju Banton - Batty Rider
5. Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown
6. Dennis Brown - Revolution
7. Willie William - Armagideon Time
8. I Roy - Sidewalk Killer
9. Toots And The Maytals - Funky Kingston
10. Dillinger - Cocaine In My Brain
11. The Maytals - Pressure Drop
12. The Pliars - Bam Bam
13. Barrington Levy - Here I Come
14. Reggie Stepper - Drum Pan Sound
15. Black Uhuru - Great Train Robbery
16. Max Romeo And The Upsetters - Chase The Devil
CSR 103.9
DJ: Philip "PM" Michaels
Chart topping and club friendly hits, brought to you by Philip "PM" Michaels, entertainer. New Jack Swing and modern soul from today's hottest acts. Where soul meets preppy. Philip is also available for weddings, funerals and Bar Mitzvahs.
1. SWV - I'm So Into You
2. Soul II Soul - Keep On Movin
3. Samuelle - So You Like What You See
4. En Vogue - My Lovin'
5. Johnny Gill - Rub You The Right Way
6. Ralph Tresvant - Sensitivity
7. Guy - Groove Me
8. Aaron Hall - Don't Be Afraid
9. Boyz II Men - Motown Philly
10. Bell Biv Devoe - Poison
11. Today - I Got The Feeling
12. Wrecks 'n' Effect - New Jack Swing
13. Bobby Brown - Don't Be Cruel
Radio:X The Alternative
DJ: Sage
Finally, there IS an alternative. The home of Modern Rock. This is a revolution. Guitars, nihilistic hedonism, and telling the elder generation to go screw themselves. Nobody has done this before. We are original thinkers. We are free. Sage leads the navel grazing; she is a remarkable talent.
1. Helmet - Unsung
2. Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus
3. Faith No More - Midlife Crisis
4. Danzig - Mother
5. Living Colour - Cult Of Personality
6. Primal Scream - Movin' On Up
7. Guns N' Roses - Welcome To The Jungle
8. L7 - Pretend We're Dead
9. Ozzy Ozbourne - Hellraiser
10. Soundgarden - Rusty Cage
11. Rage Against The Machine - Killing In The Name
12. Jane's Addiction - Been Caught Stealing
13. The Stone Roses - Fool's Gold
14. Alice In Chains - Them Bones
15. Stone Temple Pilots - Plush
K-Rose
DJ: Mary-Beth Maybell
A broken heart never sounded so good. Country and western music broadcast from Bone County across the whole state of San Andreas. All of the biggest artists, all of the best music. With the Widow Queen of the Prarie, Mary-Beth Maybell.
1. Jerry Reed - Amos Moses
2. Conway Twitty And Lorretta Lynn - Louisiana Woman, Mississippi Man
3. Hank Williams - Hey Good Lookin'
4. Juice Newton - Queen Of Hearts
5. Asleep At The Wheel - The Letter That Johnny Walker Read
6. The Desert Rose Band - One Step Forward
7. Willie Nelson - Crazy
8. Patsy Cline - Three Cigarettes In The Ashtray
9. Mickey Gilley - Make The World Go Away
10. Ed Bruce - Mamma Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be Cowboys
11. Merle Haggard - Always Wanting You
12. Whitey Shafer - All My Exes Live In Texas
13. Eddie Rabbit - I Love A Rainy Night
14. Statler Brothers - New York City
15. Statler Brothers - Bed Of Roses
Radio Los Santos
DJ: Julio G
Julio G breaks the sound of the streets. This is the West Coast taking over.
1. Too Short - The Ghetto
2. 2 Pac - I Don't Give A F**k
3. Compton's Most Wanted - Hood Took Me Under
4. Dr Dre - Nuthin' But A G Thang
5. Dr Dre - F**k Wit Dre Day
6. Dr Dre - Deep Cover
7. Kid Frost - La Raza
8. Cypress Hill - How I Could Just Kill A Man
9. The Doc - It's Funky Enough
10. NWA - Alwayz Into Something
11. NWA - Express Yourself
12. Ice Cube - It Was A Good Day
13. Ice Cube - Check Yo Self
14. Easy E - Easy-Er Said Than Done
15. Above The Law - Murder Rap
16. Da Lench Mob - Guerrillas In Tha Mist
SF-UR
DJ: Hans Oberlander
Quality house music, from deep in the underground, brought to you by an excitable German. This is music for people in the know.
1. Jomanda - Make My Body Rock
2. 808 State - Pacific
3. The Todd Terry Project - Weekend
4. NightWriters - Let The Music Use You
5. Marshall Jefferson - Move Your Body
6. Maurice - This Is Acid
7. Mr Fingers - Can You Feel It?
8. A Guy Called Gerald - Voodoo Ray
9. Cultural Vibe - Ma Foom Bey
10. Ce Ce Rogers - Someday
11. Robert Owens - I'll Be Your Friend
12. Frankie Knuckles - Your Love
13. Joe Smooth - Promised Land
14. 28th Street Crew - I Need A Rhythm
15. Raze - Break 4 Love
16. Fallout - The Morning After
Scarface
24-10-2004, 23:58
I heard about the soundtrack a few days ago, delighted with it, many great songs included IMO. Really looking forward to getting my hands on this game, what with that and Halo 2 out in soon succession needless to say ill be needing to wear waterproof nappies now ;)
Ogopa Djz
25-10-2004, 00:48
THe list isn't as impressive as i would have liked. :(
THe list isn't as impressive as i would have liked. :(
I agree. They should atleast put 20 Gangsta rap tracks in there. I mean you won't see a car full of homiez banging some James Brown ? No songs from the Doggystyle album ? This is murder :( .
-=[101st]=-
25-10-2004, 01:38
yea.. but why does every sound track need to be filled with gangsta music? not everyone who plays GTA wants rap and hip hop... there should really have a radio station for each type of music, that the target demographic for this game perfers.. being that the target demographic, would be primarily males from the age of 14 - 35. not everyone in that age is a fan of rap, there is not even really a decent rock Station.. silly Rockstar...
=-']yea.. but why does every sound track need to be filled with gangsta music? not everyone who plays GTA wants rap and hip hop... there should really have a radio station for each type of music, that the target demographic for this game perfers.. being that the target demographic, would be primarily males from the age of 14 - 35. not everyone in that age is a fan of rap, there is not even really a decent rock Station.. silly Rockstar...
Sunshine, I didn't say they should ONLY have Gangsta rap tunes in it. I was just baffed at the min-ute amount of Gangsta rap tracks they have on it. Atleast make the player able to purchase album from shops and play in car or something.
I also do realise that ''Los Santos'' doesn't consist of ''Gangstaz'' and does have people of different cultures etc. So other music is needed, but i'm still disappointed at the amount of tracks they have for the music genre, that is likely associated with the main character.
IGN (www.ign.com) and Gamespot (www.gamespot.com) have both gave their reviews of San Andreas, giving it 9.9/10 and 9.6/10 respectively.
I also found this screenshot
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/914983_20041025_screen006.jpg
Is there no end to what you can do :eek:
7RONALDO7
26-10-2004, 00:57
Looking, nice little snooker mini-game
trafty_7
26-10-2004, 02:35
i dont know about the rest of you, but the single most exciting thing for me as of now is the fact that you can skydive!! WOW...thank you Rockstar...thank you!!
Alberto Tomba
26-10-2004, 05:52
I'm over here in the States. And you wouldn't believe the lines at the gameshops around here. I went into a EBGames and they must of had about 400 hundred copies in back of the jewel case. One thing i did hear that's bad though(about the game0 is that it's framerate is aweful,no matter what model number system you have..including the new slim PS2.
Alberto Tomba
26-10-2004, 05:55
Just a few days away from release and no news? Whats going on? I probably won't be buying the game on release day cos I'm skint right now (hence the username).
To anyone who actually does buy the game on release day, let us know what the game is like, info, pics etc, etc in this thread.
I'll be renting it tommorow and i'll spill the beans. But the reason nothing was said was becuase aledgedly it was pirated and R* got wind of it and stopped any "real" info on the game.
Scarface
26-10-2004, 14:35
I'm over here in the States.
Skint student- theres your reason for Alberto Tomba already being able to access the game. It came out in the US yesterday. The rest of us look like having to wait until Thursday/Friday to get the game, although i am doing everything i can to get the copy by tomorrow, but without much luck at the minute :( Still, i think i may just about be able to wait until Friday.
Alberto Tomba
26-10-2004, 15:53
WTF! Renting it? This early? Where from? Will Blockbuster have it early you reckon?
Yeah my local BlockBuster, but hey none cared when i was griping about PES4.
dannyboy20
26-10-2004, 16:49
This is without a doubt the best game i've ever played, trust me lads you won't be playing PES4 for a while.
Here's a couple of vids i've made (minor spoiler in the first):
Jumping Off A Building (http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/basejumping.avi)
The BMX (http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/bmx.avi)
o0oGedo0o
26-10-2004, 16:56
it's really weird, i don't get why people like gta, i have seen 2 and played 3 for a while on the pc but it's just too REPETETIVE, i wanted to buy it many times to play the wholw game and decide on a stronger basis but i just don't get it, it's not that great IMO
Scarface
26-10-2004, 17:02
This is without a doubt the best game i've ever played, trust me lads you won't be playing PES4 for a while.
Here's a couple of vids i've made (minor spoiler in the first):
Jumping Off A Building (http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/basejumping.avi)
The BMX (http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/bmx.avi)
Damn it, the vid's don't work for me, nothing to do with your links though it's just a problem i've got with my computer playing sound and some video's at the moment i think. Lucky bugger having GTA: SA already ;)
I like the idea of being able to swim and go under-water this time round, it'd be class if you get away from the police that way. Also, the themes of your diet playing a huge part on Carl Johnson's physique and athletic ability sounds great. Have you found much out about this in the game yet?
dannyboy20
26-10-2004, 17:09
Reyes, you need the divx codec. Get it in the k lite codec pack from here:
http://a1.edskes.com/k/klcodec227b.exe
There's 100's of things to do in the world apart from the missions. If your health is low you can go and get a meal to boost your health up, eat too much, you get fat so go to the gym and on the running machine or go on a bike ride. The gym is pretty cool you have weights to build your muscles up, a boxing ring and more. The game is just brilliant, the size of the world is just massive :)
Blockbuster where? My local Blockbuster which happens to be 5 minutes away from my uni, hasn't said anything about GTA:SA being available for rent?
Alberto Tomba is in the States, as has previously been stated. It definitely isn't out over here till Friday.
Scarface
26-10-2004, 17:34
Reyes, you need the divx codec. Get it in the k lite codec pack from here:
http://a1.edskes.com/k/klcodec227b.exe
There's 100's of things to do in the world apart from the missions. If your health is low you can go and get a meal to boost your health up, eat too much, you get fat so go to the gym and on the running machine or go on a bike ride. The gym is pretty cool you have weights to build your muscles up, a boxing ring and more. The game is just brilliant, the size of the world is just massive :)
cheers mate, it works now. The vid's are good, after around 14 secs of the bmx one it looks as if he gob's out on the road twice :eek:
dannyboy20
26-10-2004, 17:37
lol that was another gang shooting at me and hitting the bike :)
Mount Chiliad is massive by the way, took me over 3 minutes to get to the top on a motorbike and that was with cutting corners :o
If blockbuster release GTA: SA early then both Blockbuster and Gamestation will not be allocated anymore copies. My mate in Gamestation was telling me about it last week.
There is a very important do not sell early notice going around because anyone caught selling the game early wil not be allocated anymore copies at all!
With that said I'll be picking up my copy on Friday :)
Zygalski
27-10-2004, 00:02
http://img87.exs.cx/img87/2503/GTA_SA_Image2_Zyg.th.jpg (http://img87.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img87&image=GTA_SA_Image2_Zyg.jpg) http://img87.exs.cx/img87/8184/GTA_SA_Image1_Zyg.th.jpg (http://img87.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img87&image=GTA_SA_Image1_Zyg.jpg)
Like the babe :cool:
It's a good game so far. Can't wait to get more into it.
PS. I'm back onto PES4 ;)
dannyboy20
27-10-2004, 00:22
Zyg, put PES4 down get into this game! ;)
Just about to post a few more vids lads...
dannyboy20
27-10-2004, 00:34
Here's me going up to the top of Mount Chiliad, shows how big that mountain is! :)
http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Uploaded/mountchil.avi
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