Interfering With Play 11/03/08
Posted by Dan Bolas in Interfering With Play on Tue 11 Mar 2008
Welcome to this week’s Interfering With Play. So far, I have had no feedback or comeback from the Seabass letter, and am in the process of sending it to a number of different sources that will help further its progress. If anyone has a message board, forum or website they wish to display the letter on, please feel free to contact me and I will send you the finished version. With that said, let’s crack on with this week’s column.
“Hi Kids, Do You Like Violence”
I want to take this opportunity to once again clarify a few points regarding both PESGaming.com and myself. I appreciate that for regular members/readers, or those who have been involved with the site for some time, this will act as repetition, however there are many people unaware with the formula of how this site works. Peter Willis is the owner and responsible for the overall content of this site. He is the editor if you will. Whilst at the moment, he may seem to post less frequently than me, as more news becomes available regarding PES2009, or whatever the next Konami football title is called, he will become the leading contributor to PESGaming.com, providing links to other sites, articles and images involving the next game. He is also responsible for informing the PESGaming.com community of the Goal Of The Month competition. He does not run the competition, nor have any overall casting vote over who wins the final prize. I am Dan Bolas, and have been contributing to PESGaming.com as a site for around four years. I started to write Interfering With Play on the PESGaming.com forum, and have since moved on to writing it on the main page. My views and opinions are totally my own, and do not reflect those of Peter Willis or the entire PESGaming.com community. The column itself features news and discussion topics from both the football and football gaming world, and can be used as a starting point for debates, which in recent months has included the football vs. rugby refereeing argument, the PC vs. Console argument and has touched on major issues such as money and racism in football. Like many people out there, my views are pretty strong, and are founded on hours of research and a large footballing and football gaming knowledge. However, they are not to be considered the law. They are totally open for debate, and whilst I tend not to write comments on my own articles, any topics rose via e-mail or comments will be addressed in the following weeks article. PES has a huge fan base of loyal, football fans and most gamers who spend time playing the game are the ones who either play the sport themselves or follow their local team religiously, with a combination of the two being most likely. The belief that this site should singly only address PES and Konami not only limits a vast community’s discussion topics, but also is narrow-minded as to regards what will one day constitute the ‘perfect’ football game.
Please Release Me
This was a topic that has both been fuelled by immense rumours, and was previously lost in a recent article due to the dominance of the Seabass letter. The subject, the fact that PES2009 may not be released until October 2009, gives Seabass 18+months to work on the game, and 2 years between releases of PES titles. In my opinion, and from my early PES memories, ISS Pro Evolution Soccer was released every two years during its time on PS One, and only became an annual release to coincide with its launch on PS2. The advancements between games were large, but in today’s modern market, shouldn’t a game producer be able to churn out one title a year, especially when it is arguably that companies number one selling title. On the other hand, waiting for a title that could end up to be the pinnacle of Next Generation football, is surely worth chalking off another 12 months on your calendar, even if it does mean slumming it with previous versions until then. Your views would be greatly appreciated. Are you willing to wait 18 months for the next PES? Would you resort to playing Fifa? Or do you feel Konami and Seabass have to release a game in the 2008 calendar year in order to keep up with EA Sports? Comments can be added at the bottom of the page.
Shock Therapy
Just a huge congratulation to Barnsley and Cardiff for shaving Premier League scalps in the FA Cup this past weekend. The talk of the ‘magic of the FA Cup’ is always up for debate, with foreign managers seeming to prefer to rest their big stars for the tournament. However, both Manchester United and Chelsea fielded very strong sides in the quarterfinals and were beaten by sides sticking to a game plan and working exceptionally hard. I only hope, like so many other neutrals, that the two sides which make it to the final put on a show, a la Liverpool vs. West Ham, and don’t try and bore the opponent into submission, a tactic employed by Chelsea, Man United and Arsenal in previous finals.
One For The Old School
My final point in this weeks article acts as a siren to all those fans of retro gaming. If, like myself you grew up played games on tapes and floppy disks, and have fond memories of games such as Daley Thompson’s Decathlon or Emlyn Hughes International Soccer, you will be pleased to know there is sites available where these games are available for free download. Getting your old Amiga or C64 out the loft to find it broken or water has leaked into your collection of games is gutting. I personally sold my Spectrum ZX at a Car Boot sale for £30 with over 300 games, and am now painfully aware of the collectors value some of those titles had. There is a lot of contention about what is legal regarding Roms and Emulators, a topic I will touch on in a future article, however, I recently signed up to a site called Classic PC Games. I say this as a gaming fan, and am in no way working with the site or trying to give the place free advertising. I feel as many old school gaming fans contact me on PESGaming.com, I would take the opportuntiy to point you in the direction of a place where these games are available. The site works in a unique way whereby to obtain 25 free downloads, you must write a review of one of the games featured on the site. With 1,000’s available, its not difficult to find one that you will have played, and with games like Sensible World of Soccer and Metal Gear Solid just one review a way, it is definatly a productive procedure. Type in Classic PC Games on your search engine, or hit the link www.classicpcgames.com to find out what its all about. If you do spend the time doing so, could you let me know of your experiences here on PESGaming.com, as it would be nice to see who is downloading what games!
That’s your lot for this week. Very appreciative of all your feedback, in particular from all the Newcastle fans! I am waiting for a few weeks before I follow up my comments in last weeks Interfering With Play, but will be more than happy to reply to any mails personally. danbolas@hotmail.com is the place you can send private comments to, or click the red comment button below this article to express your views in public.
Thanks for Reading
I would wait 2, 3, 4 years, whatever, for a good PES. In the meantime, I plan to play FIFA 09 (hopefully next-gen version on my PC!), IF it turns out to be as good as FIFA 08 for the xbox and PS3. I think KONAMI might benefit from waiting an extra year, since in addition to improving on their formula, they could see what direction EA is going with their next-gen title, and borrow some good ideas or add some of their own to some of FIFA’s strongest positive points. I think it would make sense, don’t you?
Some good stuff Dan, It wouldnt bother me if the next Pro Evo was delayed unitil 2009 as long as it was worth the wait. 2008 is so bad i have stopped playing it, I play Fifa on ps3 now in order to get a decent game of football. I was one of the loudest shouters leading up to the next gen releases last september, I was a publicity machine for PES 2008!!!….LOOK WHERE THAT GOT ME!! To be fair, its the 1st time in years i have felt let down by Seabass so i am willing to give him chance to put it right, i say hang on until its a FIFA beater.
tht is stupid to w8 more than 12months it is already enought tht pro always comes out afta fifa…they cant take long to make a game its STUPID of them to say tht the game will take 12+months to come out!!!
But considering the game should be evolving into a better game it shouldn’t need till 2009 to make it an excellent game by 2009, but infact releasing it in 2008 should be the stepping stone to making it a better game in 2009, but if there is no release in 2008, i wonder how far behind they actually are, does anybody really think that if seabass had an extra year, Pro Evo would look like it had an extra years work?
I don’t see how an extra year would help considering PES 08 didn’t really implement the starting points of something really knew to the game never mind a finished product. Even if they had waited until Oct 08 to release PES 08, would it of really been a better game or just a polished version of what we have now? I think Seabass and his team need to think of some better ideas, not have more time to think over the same ones… but saying that I’m still addicted to PES… so I hope the next one will be a leap forward for this game.
Man I hate interfering with play
You guys are all morons.
I say let them make PES 2009 in late 2008.
If you idiots don’t wan’t to play it, don’t.
You can simply wait for the next game.
It will still be two years of work you wanted and the PES I like to play that never let me down (PES 2008 is the best so far).
I wouldn’t mind playing PES2008 for an additional year. Even though there are plenty of things that I am not happy with, the PS2 version of PES hasn’t changed that much this year.
I would probably save me a lot of money as I wouldn’t yet have to buy a PS3 and PES2009/2010 ;-)
Well I’m buying the Wii version in a couple of weeks. It wasn’t made by Seabass so it might be the best of the bunch this year!!! ;)
Elementoligist, you are a legend and probably, like me the only person whos played the game constantly and seeing the greatness it offers.
If you Seabass haters spent more time on PES than slagging it off on here you would see it’s the best and most realistic Pro EVER.
Waiting for another 18 months or nearly 2 years for such a game ,What a nonsense it can be ?I just can’t convince myself and for sure PES 2009 will be better than the current one.If times can fix those errors , I can wait . But , till now who can guaranteed .There are errors free .
Pes 2009 should be released this yr as the same as the passed pes series.This’s the only solution that can bring back our fans and at the same time challenge the rival.
About the classic pc site - I think you’re linking to the wrong one. The one you link to requires a fee to download, whereas the one that requires reviews is http://www.classic-pc-games.com
i think come october 2008 konami will have already had 2 years to make the game as pes 08 well, would you even call that a game ,i myself would not even class it as an excuse for a game , a disgrace more like , money back is what id say they have f*****g robbed us
i can wait 18 months i have played well over 200 hours on master league on this version and am ot bored with it as long as the konami team will keep this game that is already out on there minds by relesing updates as much as they that would be fine
i don’t think some of you guys will ever be happy. the gameplay in pes2008 is brilliant, probably the best yet. it’s lacking in game modes - online (lag and no multiplayer) / no scenario or world series / career mode with one player / training challenges / edit options etc.
it’s much better than anything out there so if you don’t pay this football game, you may as well stop playing football games.
we are never going to get perfection, and with our society with no patience and high expectations, we are always going to be disappointed
I don’t think I could wait that long and also think that PES2008 is the best yet. I still play online all the time and make sure I’m playing against someone with an equally good connection - though I sometimes have to wait a while for a game as I now refuse to play against Barca, Inter or Brazil.
It would be great if they released patches to update transfers, because although you can change them yourself offline, you have to stick with the default team online.
You say it will be 18 months till Konami release the next version of PES. But it will be more like 30 months (2.5 years). My point being no one plays PES 2008 online, while people are still playing PES 6 online. PES 2008 is effectively a non release in terms of online play (which is the main reason I play the game!)
Fast foward a year, and I’ll still be playing as Arsenal online in Xbox Live, playing PES6 with Thierry Henry still in the team. It’s ludicrous!
I say I’ll still be playing it, but I’d rather be playing the latest FIFA ‘09 with their new World Cup Online campaign mode and full 11 vs 11 player online tournament option (from what I keep hearing about the next FIFA).
The point I’m making is Konami can take as long as they like. I’m going to go elsewhere (FIFA hopefully will give me a reason to buy it).
I’m a fan of PES, but I’m not stupid. Waiting two and a half years to play the next version of PES online? You’re having a laugh Konami.
Seabass, you’re a joker. You peaked at PES5.
First they removed the ’save goal replays’ from PES6 on 360, then they completely kill off the online mode in PES7.
If I stuffed up as much as that in my job I’d get fired!
@Kiraldo
You Sir, are a genius. Spot on.
A waiting period of 18+ month is moren than suitable for every gaming genre apart from sports. Let’s face it: Apart from being class A on the pitch, its the inclusion of the most current players, transfers, kits etc. that makes a game of console-footie worth while.
Of course, it’s still fun to play an older game on the Super Nintendo or Playstation (1) every once in a while. But that’s not enough, at all. The total-package is supposed to consist of the (nearly) perfect playing experience paired with the stuff all of us watch on TV every weekend. Thus, if Konami choose to skip this year’s autumn release, i’ll surely get a copy of FIFA and put Pro Evo 08 on ebay.
And if EA manage to produce a decent game with Konami giving it a bye this year, who knows, maybe i’ll stick with FIFA for the future, my point being: If Konami does not deliver in half-a-years time, they might just end up in the second place for years to come…
I’ll wait. But for the time being have another team work on releasing patches for pes2008 to make it slower paced and fix online lags. Plus a roster update should do for next season.
lets be honest pro evo 2008 was a non starter from the word go it does’nt even look that good on ps3 and plays worse than any of the others before it but it is still better than fifa!
so why cant some big shot from Konami come out and give their loyal fan base an explanation into the problems and how long we can expect to wait for the next version? and then will it have majority of problems fixed? in todays’ megga competitive market you can nill afford to NOT talk to your customers!!