LATEST PES 2009 UPDATES
Posted by Krishna in PES 2009 News on Thu 25 Sep
2008
The video is of a match between France vs France (Not a typo). The video was made at the national finals of PES 2008 on the Xbox 360. Click here to watch the video.
Now, many of you have been wondering about players stats and attributes, and here are just a few players stats to tickle your taste buds.
Thanks to Zygalski in the forums for the heads up! Pretty good find I must admit.
I would also like to give a mention to Dougie for his Racism post, it was a great post and we should all take into account the points he made.
Wii Screens
Thanks to 2-Face in the forums for the heads up on these.
Click here to view the first shots of PES 2009 on the Nintendo Wii.
Enjoy!
Let us know what you think.
Posted by dougiedonut in PES 2009 News on Thu 25 Sep
2008
Guys, in a departure from my usual PES blogging, I would like to tackle the issue of racism on our site.
For those not in the know, we have had a posting by someone (I won’t say his name, as it may give him a rise) who says he is of asian descent making a comment about monkey chants being a good realistic chant for the game.
This comment has sparked a huge row with a number of people offended by its racist nature. I can confirm that his name is made up, and is being used to try to conceal his racist comments.
We at PESGaming.com do not condone racism. We abhor it. This site is all about PES.
We do not want anyone expressing racist views on our site in any shape or from.
We aim to encourage debate amongst yourselves, but this does not mean that cowardly racist/sexist/offensive material should be tolerated. For all those people out there that seem to think it is clever to post offensive material, please grow up.
You wouldn’t go up to any minority group that you hate and tell them what you think to their face, and it doesn’t make you a man to do it anonymously from the safety of your voice on the world wide web. If you have issues then please take them elsewhere.
We are all about PES and the love/hate for the game. Abusing individuals for their views is immature and pathetic. We all don’t have the same viewpoint, and there are many things in life we disagree about, but that doesn’t give any of us the right to abuse people.
For those readers out there that are prone to expressing racist/offensive views, please don’t do it on our site. We don’t want your type of person frequenting here.
For all those people who have been offended by this guy, and others like him, please try to put it behind you. To take their bate only gives them more encouragement. If you respond to people like that, then they’re getting the attention they crave. But I do understand why people feel the need to put these sorts of people into their place.
But by everyone responding to their filth, they’ve successfully hijacked the conversations.
I guess by me putting this post up, I too have taken the bait somewhat, but only in so much as to clarify our position on this subject.
I would also like to point out that someone has been posting in the comments section under my name, so please don’t attribute the comments to me. I will not post any comments and will address any issues via my blogs on the site.
Haven’t you guys got more important things to do in life than come out with offensive negative material? Is that all you’re worth??
Please – it’s all about PES.
Cheers
Dougiedonut
Posted by Dan Bolas in Interfering With Play on Tue 23 Sep
2008
IWP League Champion 2008: Martin Ginnelly (River Plate)
Welcome to this week’s Interfering With Play. As always, this column offers views and opinions about the world of gaming, football and unsurprisingly, football gaming! The past week has seen some top football matches take place, including an excellent Arsenal result against Bolton, Manchester City look tantalising against an out of sorts Portsmouth and another off colour Manchester United performance playing top opposition. It has also seen ‘new screenshots’ of PES 2009 come to light, only to be removed again as they were in breach of journalistic NPA. So expect to see these ‘new’ screenshots rear their head again at the end of the week. Also, it does seem that Arsenal and Chelsea are not going to be licensed in this version of PES. But with a decent edit mode and a dedicated group of worldwide editors, this isn’t as bigger issue as 12 months ago.
“Oh, Its Getting Hot In Here”
My first point this week regards styles of play on PES. “Team Vision” was introduced to allow a ‘unique” gaming experience in each match. At times, this seems to work, but more often than not, if a tactic is working for you, just keep on hitting that same plan. Eventually the AI may adapt and man mark a player or make a tactical change, but usually it will be too late to have any influence on the game. Pro Evolution Soccer has been seen by many as the realistic footballing experience for along time now, but they are definitely missing a trick here. A prime example would be Stoke City’s performances since coming up to the Premier League. If they had played a standard 4-4-2 passing game, they would more than likely be rock bottom with very little in the way of a points tally. But they have a tactic that they do as well as anyone in the world, and that is attack set pieces, in particular the long throw in. The same could be said for Bolton Wanderers, who use target man Kevin Davis as a way of holding up the ball and creating chances out of nothing.
My point is, when you’re playing on PES, no matter who the opposition is, there is very little in the way of variation between the ways in which the sides play. Sometimes, as the home side, the AI will tend to commit more players forward, or bring defenders up for set pieces even if not assigned to, but usually, they will always try and work the ball into the front players and get shots away. Very rarely does the AI use the long ball into the box from deep, or even bring 7 or 8 players into an attack a la Arsenal or Chelsea. Its wrong to assume all sides play football the same way, because they don’t, and introducing some kind of tactical set up would aid this cause.
I am fully aware you can select a number of pre-designated tactics (full back overlap, offside trap etc.) and also the attacking mentality of individual players and the team, but I feel this alone is not enough. Perhaps the simplest way to implement it would be give one of 20 presets tactical set ups, and have each club assigned a set up. I am aware FIFA 09 has tried something like this, and it will be interesting to see if it comes off in the final product, especially when playing with lower league/weaker sides. For example, Bolton and Stoke would employ a long ball set up, which would see CB tend to play the ball longer, and attacking players look for set pieces in order to get the bigger players up from the back. Teams like Manchester City and Arsenal would employ a keep ball system, where the AI will get the players to keep the ball in and around the penalty area trying to work an opening. And so on, with various tactics befitting various teams, and the ability for both the AI and human gamers to change these tactics to suit the flow of the game. One nil up with 5 to go at Old Trafford, employ a ‘Blockade’ tactic, with 10 players behind the ball and make you increasingly difficult to break down. Following this, and providing it works, these could then become customisable to suit your own side, and make the most of different strengths sides have. I am tired of playing Portsmouth and having them try and pass the ball into Crouch’s feet. This is next generation, the games should know better! The other end of the scale of course, is that with gaming going online, different players may not want to only play one way, and therefore having this new tactical approach to what the AI does on your own team would make for a much more diverse football game. Your views would be very much appreciated on this.
“Celebrate Good Times, Come On!”
Before I carry on this point, can I just point out I don’t support Manchester City at all. I say this because I know people may feel I a being biased, but I do try and speak about a number of different clubs throughout the season. In fact, it was around this time last year I was singing Sven’s praises, and only a few months ago I was disgusted with the way the Swede had been treated at City. My point I would like to make regards taking my hat off to the manager that is Mark Hughes. I have always been quietly impressed with him since his days as Wales’s manager, and I thought he turned an average Blackburn squad in a decent and hard working footballing side. Long gone are the title dreams at Rovers, but he did a good job of consolidating a Premier League place, and making them an established name in the top division. Since going to City, he has had a number of different briefs. You get the feeling that upon arriving he was promised the world, but due to the owners business indiscretions, the picture changed fast. The money began to dry up and he had realised the promises probably weren’t going to come. With Jo being the only big money summer signing, there was a feeling that mid table was going to be City’s destination for another 12 months.
However, with the sudden influx of money and power comes the chance for City to really become something big, and they have kept Hughes at the helm. It would have been very easy for this group to bring in a new boss with top class credentials, but they have stuck by the Welshman, which is a testament to both him, and the business group taking over at City. I still believe that offloading managers so early in the season is unfair, and a huge gamble to take. In some cases (West Ham) it may look to work, and in other (Newcastle last year) it certainly does not. If Mark fails to reach the targets set my the board, I am pretty sure he will be shown the door, but the fact they are giving him the chance is good news for all managers, that a takeover doesn’t always mean losing your job!
“So Dirty, I Gotta Clean My Act Up”
The next point is something that I feel would be a great addition to future football titles, although it may be open to debate. Last year saw PES introduce the diving and shirt pulling features on the next gen version of the game. These are both illegal actions in the game of football, and therefore was met by criticism that they shouldn’t be included based on not being ‘in the spirit’ of the game. My point of view was always that we want a realistic football experience and that good or bad, they should be included to make the game that little more believable. As I mentioned earlier, having variable game styles. Chances are you will get booked if you dive, so its risk vs. reward, especially if the dive is successful and you win a penalty. I would be very surprised if FIFA includes any of these features any time soon. One of the problems with having the FIFA license is that FIFA must be happy lending their name to the game, and features that are blatantly disregarding the rules are a taboo subject for most governing bodies. Yes, the EA Sports title has included diving in the past, but those days were long ago!
My subject is where do we draw the line. There are three further features that are exceptionally common in modern day football. Watch any Match Of The Day or football highlight show, and chances are you will see all three of these take place in one form or another. Firstly, kicking the ball away. A yellow card offence 90% of the time, but also a great way of wasting time, and especially if your under pressure, a good way of getting players back into position. Also, quite easy to implement, as when the whistle blows the clock would simply keep on running, and you would remain in control of your player. If you commit a foul, or are given offside, it is up to you whether you leave the ball, or run up and smash it. This would stop a quick free kick being taken, and would immediately bring all your players back into position, but usually at the cost of a yellow card. If you had already pressed the command before the free kick was given, there is a chance you may be wrongly booked, but over the course of a season, it may be a beneficial feature to have, especially when playing against mates! The second feature is a rash or ‘dangerous tackle’. I personally hate this aspect of football, and in an ideal world wouldn’t want it in a football game. But I live by my views, and the two-footed lunge is an exceptionally common part of the English game, so should be included in a football simulation. Again, very easy to bring in, simply when performing a slide tackle, you could hold a couple of the shoulder buttons down to have your player jump into a tackle. Occasionally, this would be a fair challenge, and it would be possible to win the ball this way. It would also be a good way of making up distance to intercept a ball, and could be a clean challenge. However, more often than hot, especially in a block tackle format, the player would tackle high, and catch the opponent at shin height, resulting in a straight red card. This tackle would also have a greater percentage chance of causing injury to an opponent. For example, a regular slide tackle may have a one in ten chance of having a player stay down injured, whereas the dangerous tackle would increase it to a one in five chance. With players like Mikel and Essien seemingly making a great deal of tackles in this way, it is naïve to think it doesn’t happen, and should be included in a game.
The third and final point would be the ability to argue with the referee or other players following a decision. At the moment, PES has a couple of generic cut scenes in this manor, but nothing that really brings anything to the table. It’s so common in football now, that perhaps you should be able to press a couple of buttons (e.g. shoulder / face button combo) and the players would either start pushing amongst themselves or even surrounding the ref (depending on the button pressed). I am not suggesting that we have an NHL style brawl with an actual fight between two players, but perhaps the initiation of a cut scene every once in a while, would be a good way of blowing off steam. Constant arguing could result in a yellow card, or constant trouble between two players may result in a scuffle and both being sent off, especially if for a bad tackle. I appreciate there are a number of variables that would need to be taken into account, but as I keep on saying, this is the next generation. I am fully aware that some people would hate to see this on PES, but I wonder the views of the PESGaming.com public. Would you like to see these extra, naughty additions into PES, as although against the rules, they are a common part of football? Or do you feel that football games should only be realistic about the actual football, and ignore the extras or negatives that go along with it? Your views are very much appreciated, as always.
“Keep My Hands Off The Cookie Jar”
For those of you who care or are interested, FIFA 09 is released next Friday. Following the extensive advert in the Chelsea v Man United game, the PR machine for EA is definitely up and running, and my question is, will you be tempted to pick up the FIFA game with PES only 2 weeks away? I personally stand by my views of not being impressed with the demo, and will probably pick up FIFA 09 in the new year as a multiplayer / online alternative. As I have said openly, I own every FIFA since 93 (International Soccer), and this is one of the few times I have looked at the whole gaming package and been a little under whelmed. Of course, FIFA fans will be picking it up regardless, and there are those who have money to burn, and will buy it for a two weeks fling, but for those who gaming is an expensive pastime, has FIFA 09 done enough to gain your hard earned cash?
“Have A Drumstick And Your Brain Stops Ticking”
One week gone, a couple to go, and we have about 50 votes for the Interfering With Play Player Of The Season Award. Here is your opportunity to vote for three of your favourite players from PES 2008. Simply choose the players that have performed well for you over the last 12 months on PES2008, and either comment or e-mail me with their names. Last years winner, Cristiano Ronaldo, will no doubt be there or there abouts at the end of the season, but a couple of other front runners are having exceptionally good showings so far. Let your voice be heard, and show your respect for the players that have done it for you on PES2008.
That’s your lot for this week. I am sure more PES news will be on this site in the upcoming hours and days, so keep on checking back for all the latest. Dave Ostrander gets a big shout out for designing the ultra trendy and relevant IWP logo, and Andrew Killeen gets a big shout out for his very passionate and enjoyable e-mail from last week! interferingwithplay@hotmail.co.uk is the place you can reach me, either via MSN, or ‘old fashioned e-mail’ about IWP league queries, IWP Player Of The Season votes or anything else relevant.
Thanks for Reading
Posted by dougiedonut in PES 2009 News on Mon 22 Sep
2008
Hey y’all
Follow the link for some pretty cool screenshots.
http://gamecinemahd.com/game/PS3/pro_evolution_soccer_2009
Cheers
Dougiedonut
Posted by Krishna in PES 2009 News on Sun 21 Sep
2008
The intro movie for when you start the game has been release courtesy of VideoGamesZone and Francis of PESGaming.com.
Click here to watch it!
Francis if anyone should be thanked, it’s you.
After your done watching the video, check these new Champions League screenshots at VideoGamesZone. Thanks to sub85 again!
VideoGamesZone are at it again, click here to watch a Champions League match between Roma and Real Madrid!
Once again let us know what you think in the comments guys!
Posted by francis in PES 2009 News on Sat 20 Sep
2008
Ooh… Controversial…
Last week I noted a few points I liked about the Fifa demo, but did say that Fifa wouldn’t be rocking my boat this year, adding at the end of the article that I would be getting Pro Evo 09 [as usual…]. All I got in response was 80% of people slating the Fifa demo, not even noticing that I said that my personal opinion was that it wasn’t as good as PES. I’m going to ask - more of a formality really as I’m sure it won’t happen - that people try to take into account other people’s views and preferences in the comments section. If everyone loved PES then Konami wouldn’t have any competition, and would probably just sit back and make improvements on the previous versions, rather than trying to take big steps forward. I do like the way that you can take shots on goal whilst loading in Fifa, but having games tested NBA ’09 and another EA title this week, I noticed how much longer loading times are in the EA games compared to the Konami titles, which kind of makes the point of having something to do during loading titles a little redundant.
Yes, there are in my opinion a lot of things wrong with the Fifa ’09 demo. The ball weight was ridiculous, the way every single tackle was a successful one, no room to manoeuvre; I could go on and on. I was just pointing out a few things I liked, and wondering if other people liked them too. For the record, I had no intention of buying Fifa, and am buying PES again this year.
My favourite comment was a slightly random one from Simon McDermott; ‘Fifa are the donkey, Pes is the carrot.’ Just thought I’d highlight that one :)
Gameplay videos
As there’s less than a month ‘til the release of Pro Evolution ’09, news should start streaming in; and it’s the new gameplay videos that have me more excited. I still regularly play PES ’08 and like it, so the fact that the gameplay videos look a little like PES ’08 - slowed down a little - with a bit of PES 6 thrown in makes me think that I’m going to love it… but quite a few will hate it. To me, that’s how it’s looking at the moment, but obviously we’re going to have to wait for the demo until we can make up our minds. In my opinion screenshots are all pretty similar at this stage in the waiting game, and the gameplay videos are all similar too, but the newest screenshots uploaded have really caught my eye, and look very impressive. I’d like to do a quick mention of thanks to Krishna who takes his time and effort to post and update the news section of pesgaming.com.
The small things/the big question
Recently someone in the comments section was mentioning that it’s the small things that could really make Pes ’09 a brilliant game. As this poster said, small ideas such as the captain giving his armband to another player when substituted off, the goalkeeper’s drink bottle getting knocked flying should a shot hit it; additions like this which I really agree would make the game that little more realistic, and it’d be a nice talking point if they implemented a few of these suggestions in future editions of the game.
Which leads me on to this week’s big question. What ‘cool’ additions similar to the two I’ve just mentioned would you like to see in Pro Evo 2010/2011 +? Personally, I think the goalnets could be improved, maybe a wayward shot knocking a camera over behind the goal, or maybe just a referee slipping over in wet or snowy weather! Over to you.
As always you can email me at francis_newall@hotmail.co.uk and comments on your preferences to what I talk about, whether you liked it, or just general comments on the article, are all very welcome.
Thanks,
-Francis
Posted by Krishna in PES 2009 News on Sat 20 Sep
2008
Loads of screenshots have been released courtesy of Cynamite.
Recognise that guy?
To view all the Inter Milan vs Manchester United screenshots, click here.
How about this guy?
To view all the Serie A stars, click here. Take your time there are alot.
Update:
To see the Ligue 1 Stars, click here.
For the stars of La Liga, click here.
For the stars of Eredivisie, click here.
Now, the one you’ve all been waiting for (I think). Click here for the Premier League stars.
Thanks to “sub85″ in the forum for this, click here to view 100 screenshots of Manchester United vs Liverpool.
Thanks again sub85 for the heads up on this, click here for screenshots of Arsenal vs Chelsea! Looks like Arsenal & Chelsea won’t be licensed which is a pity. But then again all these screenshots might be coming from the 85% completed build so the teams you expect to be licensed will be! Only time will tell.
Analyse the screenshots well and if you spot something interesting let us know.
Enjoy!
Posted by Krishna in PES 2009 News on Fri 19 Sep
2008
Here is a 85% completed version of PES 2009. Konami presented the almost finished game in Copenhagen, Denmark. The video is of the PES Menu plus Champions League Menu and if you watch carefully, you see some licensed teams which include:
Manchester United
Lyon
Bordeaux
Inter Milan
AS Roma
PSV
Real Madrid
Villarreal
FC Porto
Sporting
CFR Cluj
Zenit St. Petersburg
and Celtic
Stadiums included are:
Estádio da Luz (Portugal)
Estádio José Alvalade (Portugal)
Estádio do Dragão (Portugal)
Camp Nou (Spain)
Bernabeu (Spain)
San Siro (Italy)
Stadio Olimpico (Italy)
Stadio Olimpico di Torino (Italy)
Stade Louis II (France)
Stade De France (France)
Wembley (England)
There are 8 more you see in the video.
So, the 85% completed build doesn’t include some of the teams which should be there. The Italian League is not licensed but the teams are. I also saw that Arsenal are not licensed which gets me down. Looks to me that certain teams will be licensed only in the Champions League mode, but only time will tell.
Anyway, all that matters is gameplay! Doesn’t it?
Click here for the video!
Here is a another video of a match between Portugal and Argentina.
Let us know what you think in the comments and in the forums.
Enjoy!
Credit to “allsvenskanpes.blogg.se” and “goonerjunglist” in the forums for this video.
EDIT: New video of a Champions League Match between Manchester United and Real Madrid. Click here! (No Audio). Thanks again to “goonerjunglist” and “allsvenskanpes.blogg.se” for the video.
EDIT: Some interesting new facts from a Spanish Magazine, Thanks WENB!
8 different cameras, and each of them at 3 heights
It also mentions that all 32 CL teams have full kits and names
Players change facial expression when they lose the ball, they scream
A.I. has improved very much according to the article
The players are very much like the real counterparts
Great illumination and weather effects
19 Stadiums (”Fat Tony” in the comments said it first)
8 Players, 4 Online for regular match
7 players, 8 online for Become a Legend
The Spanish commentators are great
For kit editing, add images for Logos AND sponsors
You can share replays with friends through the Internet
EDIT: Screenshots as requested. (Low Quality)
Posted by Krishna in PES 2009 News on Thu 18 Sep
2008
There not much on the site. It’s just a picture right now but it will soon be filling up with menus and submenus that will lead you elsewhere to competitions, information about the game, you know, the usual.
Below is what you will see as the holding page for now. Click here for the website.
Enjoy!
Posted by dougiedonut in PES 2009 News on Thu 18 Sep
2008
Right then, I won’t go too much into what I think about FIFA2009, especially since Dan has done a pretty sound assessment of the game. What I will say though, is that I’m not that impressed with the graphics on the pitch, and would like to know if I’m the only one who thinks that FIFA employs a lot of smoke and mirrors to make people think they’re watching a fantastic high def product?
What I mean is, play FIFA with a close up camera so that you can see the player models up close during play, and compare what the game looks like as soon as a cut scene kicks in. As soon as you get to a cut scene animation routine - i.e. when someone has just scored a goal, or is complaining about a foul etc, the graphics look very snazzy indeed - especially if you get a shot of the grass. But this for me is cheating. More focus should be on making everything looking crisp during play, not when play has stopped. As I said, this could just be my own thinking, but I’d be interested in knowing if anyone else has noticed this.
The demo itself - playing 2 min halves wasn’t long enough to let you get a decent feel of the gameplay for my liking. Just as you settle into the game, the half is over. I played on the more difficult setting and rarely managed a shot on goal,so its a bit more of a departure from older FIFA games! Why bother putting a demo out with such a short play time?
Even if they provided a full 10 minute match, what do think - people won’t bother buying the full product because they have the demo??
To summarise it, for me, it’s just not PES. There’s no emotional attachment to it, no desire to return to it to try and master it. Nothing.
A few weeks ago I mentioned that I had stopped playing PES, to take a break and be ready for the new version with a little bit of hunger. Last weekend I cracked. No other game could fill the void, and so I returned back to action. Boy did it feel good!
In one game my Udinese were 3-0 up against Barca in the first 25 mins of the game (10 minute match scale) and my opponent quit on me! There’s nothing like the feeling of making someone quit on you because you are dominating them!
I played against someone with a gamertag of PES6ProChampion, a pretty bold tag I thought, and it had to be either someone that was very foolish,or brave. My Udinese were up against his Bolton (or Middlebrook as PES6 has it) and I have to say he was one tough opponent. He beat me 2 games to 1 in one session, and we had each won a game in another mini-session we had. But I have to say he really stretched my PES abilities, especially since I hadn’t played in a few weeks, not that it takes long to get back into it!
So I thought it would be a good idea if people could name tags of players that they found to be worthy opponents online. This could be a good way to identify players that gave you one hell of a tight match, or a bit of a tonking. So own up fellas, there’s no shame in saying someone wiped the floor with you, so let’s have an PES Hell amnesty.
I would like to collate the names of players for my article next week, with a view to getting a few of us to perhaps make a date to try to play one another.
I’d like to think I’d give anyone a decent game, so whilst PES6 is still played, why not see it out with a big bang?
Thanks for reading
Dougiedonut
