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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/pes-2009-news/326/in-the-red-261008/comment-page-2/#comment-16595</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanna comment on something lads. Been looking back in my archival football catalogue of PES games. The golden age of PES was definelty winning eleven 5 to winning eleven 9. I have been playing those games and comparing it to 2009. It&#039;s as if a demon from Japan had ripped the soul from within the PES franchise. We all remember the grudge film. I think Seabass was in it.lol. Anyhow, playing the oldies, you really develop a sense of not wanting to play PES 2009. Fine its one more franshise with 2009 at the end of it. It really should be PES 12. They should look back at where they started and see how far they have strayed off the football path. Also wanna send my kind regards to mrgametight for creating an awesome patch with all the epl kits. Thanks mrgametight, best OF I have seen so far, awesome work m8. They just don;t make them like the use to. Progress in this case doesn&#039;t equal evolution. United should wath out for Rory Delap&#039;s thrown in&#039;s today. Com&#039;on United!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanna comment on something lads. Been looking back in my archival football catalogue of PES games. The golden age of PES was definelty winning eleven 5 to winning eleven 9. I have been playing those games and comparing it to 2009. It&#8217;s as if a demon from Japan had ripped the soul from within the PES franchise. We all remember the grudge film. I think Seabass was in it.lol. Anyhow, playing the oldies, you really develop a sense of not wanting to play PES 2009. Fine its one more franshise with 2009 at the end of it. It really should be PES 12. They should look back at where they started and see how far they have strayed off the football path. Also wanna send my kind regards to mrgametight for creating an awesome patch with all the epl kits. Thanks mrgametight, best OF I have seen so far, awesome work m8. They just don;t make them like the use to. Progress in this case doesn&#8217;t equal evolution. United should wath out for Rory Delap&#8217;s thrown in&#8217;s today. Com&#8217;on United!</p>
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		<title>By: Wild Wazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wild Wazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>every1 i know has moved on to fifa from pes. the new pro evo is poor and is not much different from the previous version. im dissappointed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>every1 i know has moved on to fifa from pes. the new pro evo is poor and is not much different from the previous version. im dissappointed!</p>
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		<title>By: BugA</title>
		<link>http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/pes-2009-news/326/in-the-red-261008/comment-page-2/#comment-16099</link>
		<dc:creator>BugA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a handball foul in PES 2009, it just happened to me, and the opponent`s player were showing it to the judge, by tapping their arms. Hm, but sometimes when there`s a clear handball foul, nothing happens :(

Quote from www.zootoday.com:
Seabass also talked about hyper-realistic but reportedly shelved features like diving and handball. “Actually, handball and diving are both in PES 2009 but they’re a lot more refined in this version – which means handball happens less frequently. For diving you must be sneakier!”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a handball foul in PES 2009, it just happened to me, and the opponent`s player were showing it to the judge, by tapping their arms. Hm, but sometimes when there`s a clear handball foul, nothing happens :(</p>
<p>Quote from <a href="http://www.zootoday.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zootoday.com</a>:<br />
Seabass also talked about hyper-realistic but reportedly shelved features like diving and handball. “Actually, handball and diving are both in PES 2009 but they’re a lot more refined in this version – which means handball happens less frequently. For diving you must be sneakier!”</p>
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		<title>By: SMoKE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SMoKE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have actually a replay save where i got a penalty from a handball, it is obvious it is included, since 2 or 3 versions, PES2009 rocks for now, my only disappointment is after playing the be a legend mode, which is great, but u will notice that the com is more powerful than the com playing your team, i mean the players become stupid and hopeless! i played in real and in liverpool, and almost any team can play them like kids,,, that is not fair,, but i conceder it like a challenge for me to beat the unfair balance there :)
to summer up, the game is great, but needs tweaks, its a big jump for PES, keep the hard work konami...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have actually a replay save where i got a penalty from a handball, it is obvious it is included, since 2 or 3 versions, PES2009 rocks for now, my only disappointment is after playing the be a legend mode, which is great, but u will notice that the com is more powerful than the com playing your team, i mean the players become stupid and hopeless! i played in real and in liverpool, and almost any team can play them like kids,,, that is not fair,, but i conceder it like a challenge for me to beat the unfair balance there :)<br />
to summer up, the game is great, but needs tweaks, its a big jump for PES, keep the hard work konami&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: i wanna be a pro legend</title>
		<link>http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/pes-2009-news/326/in-the-red-261008/comment-page-2/#comment-15279</link>
		<dc:creator>i wanna be a pro legend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to no.17 

i loved it when we were able to swap short and socks as i agree it gave more options. i hate it when both teams have both the same colour shorts and socks!!!! it doesnt happen in the premiership!!!

how is everyone coping with the be a legend. whats the best position???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to no.17 </p>
<p>i loved it when we were able to swap short and socks as i agree it gave more options. i hate it when both teams have both the same colour shorts and socks!!!! it doesnt happen in the premiership!!!</p>
<p>how is everyone coping with the be a legend. whats the best position???</p>
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		<title>By: tonio-kun</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonio-kun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@toomerj: actually MatTheCat is absolutely right! In PES 6, synchronization conflicts were resolved in favor one of the players. That player, at least in 1v1 games, changed with the half-time.

In PES 2008 they changed this and all conflicts were resolved in favor of the player with the ball. When with the ball you never experience lag. At most you experience slight synchronization pauses but your game state doesn&#039;t change.

I&#039;m not sure about PES 2009&#039;s synchronization scheme but It doesn&#039;t feel like PES 2008, it actually feels worse. That said, I&#039;ve only played one game online.. it seemed much much worse than the offline which is great!

my 2 cents</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@toomerj: actually MatTheCat is absolutely right! In PES 6, synchronization conflicts were resolved in favor one of the players. That player, at least in 1v1 games, changed with the half-time.</p>
<p>In PES 2008 they changed this and all conflicts were resolved in favor of the player with the ball. When with the ball you never experience lag. At most you experience slight synchronization pauses but your game state doesn&#8217;t change.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure about PES 2009&#8217;s synchronization scheme but It doesn&#8217;t feel like PES 2008, it actually feels worse. That said, I&#8217;ve only played one game online.. it seemed much much worse than the offline which is great!</p>
<p>my 2 cents</p>
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		<title>By: FOOTTIE MAD</title>
		<link>http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/pes-2009-news/326/in-the-red-261008/comment-page-2/#comment-15248</link>
		<dc:creator>FOOTTIE MAD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has anyone done a connection test on here ,and what were your results,would be interested to know,mine came up B A A,Which tells my connection is good enough to play online,try yors and putbit up on here the site is www.konami.jp/we/network/2009/   Once on thereclick on the network speed inspection tools&quot; icon and follow the on screen instructions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has anyone done a connection test on here ,and what were your results,would be interested to know,mine came up B A A,Which tells my connection is good enough to play online,try yors and putbit up on here the site is <a href="http://www.konami.jp/we/network/2009/" rel="nofollow">http://www.konami.jp/we/network/2009/</a>   Once on thereclick on the network speed inspection tools&#8221; icon and follow the on screen instructions</p>
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		<title>By: passthedutchie</title>
		<link>http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/pes-2009-news/326/in-the-red-261008/comment-page-2/#comment-15236</link>
		<dc:creator>passthedutchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers. Makes you wonder why they didn&#039;t just include in the master league.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers. Makes you wonder why they didn&#8217;t just include in the master league.</p>
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		<title>By: super-pes</title>
		<link>http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/pes-2009-news/326/in-the-red-261008/comment-page-2/#comment-15233</link>
		<dc:creator>super-pes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah u can qualify for the chapions league trust me!! but the only thing is u cant do transfer or get relagated like what the master league does thtas the only bad thing but other and that i rather play that and go into the proper champions league than play the fake one in the master league!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah u can qualify for the chapions league trust me!! but the only thing is u cant do transfer or get relagated like what the master league does thtas the only bad thing but other and that i rather play that and go into the proper champions league than play the fake one in the master league!!</p>
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		<title>By: passthedutchie</title>
		<link>http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/pes-2009-news/326/in-the-red-261008/comment-page-2/#comment-15232</link>
		<dc:creator>passthedutchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you saying that if you finish in the top four of say the English league, yuo can qualify for the Champions League? If so, that kind of makes the Master league a bit redundant. I have never bothered playing the individual leagues before, can you transfer players etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you saying that if you finish in the top four of say the English league, yuo can qualify for the Champions League? If so, that kind of makes the Master league a bit redundant. I have never bothered playing the individual leagues before, can you transfer players etc?</p>
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		<title>By: super-pes</title>
		<link>http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/pes-2009-news/326/in-the-red-261008/comment-page-2/#comment-15226</link>
		<dc:creator>super-pes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>been playing the master league and to notice that its still the same thing as last year! so now i stop playing it and now i jus play normal league my first season i came second in the league now i started the second year and notice they have put the offical champions league so thats mean that they have intergraded the chapions league with the normal league if anybody gets that!! anybody notice that!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>been playing the master league and to notice that its still the same thing as last year! so now i stop playing it and now i jus play normal league my first season i came second in the league now i started the second year and notice they have put the offical champions league so thats mean that they have intergraded the chapions league with the normal league if anybody gets that!! anybody notice that!!</p>
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		<title>By: balcik</title>
		<link>http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/pes-2009-news/326/in-the-red-261008/comment-page-2/#comment-15224</link>
		<dc:creator>balcik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,

I would like to inform you about a new website which is purely built to express disappointment with new PES 2009 game (especially online play etc.)

This website aims to bring PES fans around the world together and pressure Konami to fix the problems with the game, make online play more stable and increase the quality of the game like previous PES games (before 2008) that we used to love and play.

http://www.iwantmypesback.com

Please share this website with your PES lover. The more, the merrier!

Thanks

Balcik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>I would like to inform you about a new website which is purely built to express disappointment with new PES 2009 game (especially online play etc.)</p>
<p>This website aims to bring PES fans around the world together and pressure Konami to fix the problems with the game, make online play more stable and increase the quality of the game like previous PES games (before 2008) that we used to love and play.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iwantmypesback.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.iwantmypesback.com</a></p>
<p>Please share this website with your PES lover. The more, the merrier!</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Balcik</p>
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		<title>By: super-pes</title>
		<link>http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/pes-2009-news/326/in-the-red-261008/comment-page-2/#comment-15213</link>
		<dc:creator>super-pes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>been playing the master league and to notice that its still the same thing as last year! so now i stop playing it and now i jus play normal league my first season i came second in the league now i started the second year and notice they have put the offical champions league in which is good has anybody notice that!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>been playing the master league and to notice that its still the same thing as last year! so now i stop playing it and now i jus play normal league my first season i came second in the league now i started the second year and notice they have put the offical champions league in which is good has anybody notice that!!</p>
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		<title>By: Celtic Shady Town</title>
		<link>http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/pes-2009-news/326/in-the-red-261008/comment-page-2/#comment-15212</link>
		<dc:creator>Celtic Shady Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why in the edit mode you cant change the nationalites of players in team A, Team B, etc i want to make my own teams but its pointless if you cant make the players there own nationality anyone any comments on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why in the edit mode you cant change the nationalites of players in team A, Team B, etc i want to make my own teams but its pointless if you cant make the players there own nationality anyone any comments on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Umarnino</title>
		<link>http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/pes-2009-news/326/in-the-red-261008/comment-page-2/#comment-15210</link>
		<dc:creator>Umarnino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is handball, but the commentators just call it a foul.

Don&#039;t you ever cross into the box and you don&#039;t connect with the ball and next thing its a foul? I wanted to why this was and its because the ball hits the striker&#039;s arm if he misheaders it. The commentators just don&#039;t pick up on it and just say &#039;charged illegally&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is handball, but the commentators just call it a foul.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you ever cross into the box and you don&#8217;t connect with the ball and next thing its a foul? I wanted to why this was and its because the ball hits the striker&#8217;s arm if he misheaders it. The commentators just don&#8217;t pick up on it and just say &#8216;charged illegally&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: super-pes</title>
		<link>http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/pes-2009-news/326/in-the-red-261008/comment-page-2/#comment-15209</link>
		<dc:creator>super-pes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>super-pes that was me with above comment!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>super-pes that was me with above comment!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>been playing the master league and to notice that its still the same thing as last year! so now i stop playing it and now i jus play normal league my first season i came second in the league now i started the second year and notice they have put the offical champions league in which is good has anybody notice that!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>been playing the master league and to notice that its still the same thing as last year! so now i stop playing it and now i jus play normal league my first season i came second in the league now i started the second year and notice they have put the offical champions league in which is good has anybody notice that!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dunno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dunno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>58. yeh i thought it was 6 aswell, coulda been in 5 too, I understand it could be annoying but it is the proper way it should be in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>58. yeh i thought it was 6 aswell, coulda been in 5 too, I understand it could be annoying but it is the proper way it should be in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Naboolio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naboolio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>57. They had that in 6 I think it was. did get a bit annoying though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>57. They had that in 6 I think it was. did get a bit annoying though</p>
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		<title>By: Dunno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dunno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im not so sure about handballs being introduced but i would like to see referee&#039;s playing advantages after bad fouls but then going back to the offending player to card him once the advantage has been played out, this is a very important part of the game &amp; needs to be brought back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im not so sure about handballs being introduced but i would like to see referee&#8217;s playing advantages after bad fouls but then going back to the offending player to card him once the advantage has been played out, this is a very important part of the game &amp; needs to be brought back.</p>
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