Just a quickie
Posted by Peter Willis in PES 2009 News on Thu 24 Sep
Hey all,
I’ll just make this quick as to not push DD’s new column down too much. I’ve been monitoring the furore surrounding the demo and I’d just like to quickly say that as I’ve been lucky enough to have tested the final game for a couple of days at work, that the demo certainly isn’t representative of the final version and you’ll all be hearing my views in my column on Saturday. I don’t understand why Konami have put out such a sub-par demo out; it’s older than the code Dougie and I tested two months ago so I can’t help but wonder why it’s been released as it’s certainly not representative of final gameplay.
Regards,
-Francis
I assume this final game doesn’t require you to wear a hat made of pineapple to make it run properly unlike the demo?
well this sounds good cause im not impressed much with the demo
Wow this is good news.. why are people so negative..?
I enjoyed the demo and could easilly see where it was potentially going although not bad as it was.
You have “SAID” without “SAYING” or shall i say “COMFIRMED” without “COMFIRMING” that the game is much better than the demo..
I look forward to your views on Saturday..
ps any news on the XBOX 360 edit mode.. ie compatibility with the Pro 09 edit data?
Great news as although the demo was looking good there was a slight concern that it was a near complete version and there is still too many bugs that needed to be fixed. If the version you have played has erased these issues then hopefully we are in for a great game this year.
I enjoyed the demo…and thought it was a huge step forward from PES2009. To read that it was nowhere near the final version just adds to the excitement in waiting for the game to be released.
Look forward to reading your comments on Saturday…
Good news, or a load of bull****…
You decide.
Francis, i’m glad you posted this because I and i’m sure alot of others would like our questions answered in your column on Saturday.
1)Any change with keepers?
2)Response times fixed?
3)Robotic running animations still there? (zig, zag)
4)Any new animations (fouls, bookings etc)
5)CPU AI any better?? More difficult? Hopefully.
These things are very important to me at least, because i’m seriously considering buying FIFA due to the lack of progress in the PES series. Judging from the PES demo that is of course.
Good to hear this. I was indeed not very pleased with the demo, to say the least, although I must admit that it’s growing on me.. I have pre-ordered PES2010 already and will definitely get the game.
Hmmm… I am looking forward to the release and I will I think most certainly enjoy it, but I sincerily doubt your optimism having any foundations, Francis…. Sorry.
I do not think the final release will be a lot different than the demo, as
A) how on earth would Konami send out a demo that’s supposed to ATTRACT people (not scare them away) that has so many flaws?
Either it means that
1) it IS close to the final version so they send it out anyway
2) It is a lot earlier build, which implies they DIDN’T DARE to send out a newer code as that one has too many bugs they don’t want the audience to see
B) the demo’s from 2008 & 2009 resembled the final version a lot and EVEN THEN most websites were saying “ah, the final version will be so much better!” NOT, it turned out, so why would it be different now?
C) Adam from WENB has imo always been (falsely?) praising PES too much, only realising after release that lots of people actually blamed him for getting the hopes up too high.
He OUT OF ALL PEOPLE has now even started a threat on the website where people can report slow-response times. If it wasn’t a problem in the review code (which he owns), he would NEVER pay so much urgent attention to it!
He even claimed that keepers, response times and animations are better in the review code, but the difference were MINIMAL!!!
Maybe you are right Francis, but please don’t give people false hope if the difference between the Demo and final version are not as huge as you claim…..
just my 2 cents… Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst
Good news…will be any news about online in your column in saturday?? For me there is yust that one thing i need to know is sorted and i am buying this game!!
This is fantastic news. I to have pre ordered the game and was a little worried with the demo, although i could see the potential it need a lot of polishing.
I don’t know if there is an embargo on talking about the latest code but what the fans of PES need is preview / review of the latest code to put our minds at rest.
brilliant news. i think the demo is ok, but to hear this makes me now believe that there is no debate: Pes will regain its crown!
If this turns out to be the case ..what the feck were Konami thinking of!!??…we are PES FANS..we want our beautiful game!..all that Konami have done (if this turns out to be so) has scared alot of people off..I for one was thinking of getting FIFA!..(god forgive me)…all I can say is this is not the way to treat loyal fans.
I think I am the first person to right on this website who works as a member of the technical staff at Konami and I can say that Francis is 100% correct. The latest demo is miles off completion because we wanted to get something released seen as fifa had released their demo. The final game which I have played is the best PES we have made so far. It is just about finished and all the faults that have been mentioned are only in this demo which I concede was rushed by about a week and a half so you have to worry because as a technical member at konami I can confirm it will be a masterpiece.
So Shinja, all those faults were fixed in a week and a half, is that what your saying? I don’t believe it for a second
RE; Baz man
You have got the wrong end of the stick, the demo was released a week an a half early and that had faults but not the fginal game which is absolutely fine I guarantee you
The game was pretty much completed 2 to 3 weeks before the demo but when you are editing bits of a game out to make a demo it can often cause a lot of faults
Only time will tell i guess, but i have my reservations
i so hope this is true!! i truly hate the demo and have decided based on both fifa and pes demo’s that i’d rather go without a football game
but if francis’s comments are true, then there is still light at the end of the tunnel
also respect to DD, you didn’t shy away from the user comments, and produced an excellent article,
though i’m not sure why you didn’t mention anything about the demo being an old build?? that worries me a little
but fingers crossed, the final game MAY still be better then the awful game-play of the demo
i’ve not noticed the 360 movement. Is that one of the feautres not included in the demo that will be in the final cut?
something interesting read posts 16, 18, and 19. does that give you any hope. It certainly gives me hope if it is coming from a technical member of staff
people need to chill
1. its only a game even if i am dyin for it too
2. the demo was pretty good you can see the improvements
3. ITS ONLY A DEMO
4. every year the game differs so it will take time to get used to it
i understand everyone being pissed off cos of 08 especially but 09 apart from online was a good game and this years one is going to be even better
p,s is it true game is out 23/10??
@ #22 Afaik 360 movement is in the demo already.
Same story every year, if the game looks bad before the release, people say it’s because it’s from an older build. And look what happened with PES 2008 and PES 2009? Worst football games ever. I doubt that will change this year, seeing as the demo was yet again horrendous. And who believes the posts 16, 18, and 19? I could say I’m a technical director and, unfortunately, we have failed this year (as the previous two years), and it would be as believable.
And to 22. David: The 360 movement is there, you probably expected it to be different, like you could run in circles with not having to touch the ball in the meantime. What you think is not realistic and therefore that will be exactly the same in the full version.
Just aswell it doesnt represent the final version of the game because it was a big dissapointment, had more bugs than the film “Bugs life” in it.
Hi Shinja Nyok,
can u confirm that the tricks are performed via the right stick while holding R2(RT).
I think this is an important information for the trick lovers who dont want to sacrifice 360° Control.
Pulling of tricks via the left stick is nearly impossible and playing with 8 way d-pad (360 and PC) is not really an option.
With best regards.
Totally agreed MagicaRoma had said .
What. I thought the demo was excellent. The game play is amazing. It was weird at first…But it does grow with you, gets better the more you play it. But if the final version is better then…nice one.
download winning eleven 2010 demo in japan psn(need create japanese account)..some people already play it and it much better than the pes 2010 demo..lost planet 2 also already out in japan psn..
Guys dont be so negative about francis post.Does he have a reason to lie to all of us? or are you saying that is a KONAMI employee and doing his job???Come on now…..if you are looking for excuses to buy fifa you can do it but leave please this site and go somewhere else with your fifa friends.
Funny, on the WENB site in the forums someone just copied & pasted Francis his article and asks Adam what he thinks about it as the guy is confused (Francis saying he has final code whereas Adam has review code and Francis caliming Demo-Final game is like night and day whereas Adam claims it is different, but not a lot).
I am very curious to hear what the answer from Adam will be…
I hope this is true. If it is we still have hope. I’m glad we havnt been belittled by this dude like that Dan Bolas guy. Actually feel our gripes were legit as opposed to over reactions..
Thank god for normality and common sense over stupid crap, fan boys or otherwise.
PES 2010 willo be the best arcade soccer game.
@41. MatTheCat.
I was thinking the exact same thing mate =) That was gonna be my answer when all the guys looking out from under the wool over their eyes reply ‘huh? how do you know he isn’t real?? He must be real cuz it says so!’
why is it that fifa fans get so jealous and angry when they here promising news for PES. some of them really need to get a life. Whoever this guy (or guys), whose writing cr.ap on this thread needs to mature and not be so pathetic.
anyway, news is sounding good for pes 2010, and the new winning eleven demo is apparently quality. good stuff.
I think the demo is very good and an improvement over PES2009. I guess I’m easy to please considering someone called last years game “worst game ever” because I’ve enjoyed playing 09 over the past year. I think that people “slightly” exaggerate their feelings about the game.
Just to confirm: Is Francis saying he’s got the completed, 100% finished game in his hands right now then?
If so, how come it’s not coming out for another 4 weeks? Surely it can’t take that long to package it and ship it out to the shops?
Anyway, if he has got the finished game I can’t wait for his impressions on Sat!!
ok guys, everyone on the wenb forum as started downloading and playing the WINNING ELEVEN DEMO and they all say it is better than the pes demo and also the response problem is gone (disappeared). You have to download it with a japanese accounts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQiVC1I9EgA
WINNING ELEVEN DEMO GAME PLAY. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQiVC1I9EgA
REVEIWS
Re: I tried the Winning Eleven 2010 demo
Postby lengi_barca » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:45 pm
the WE2010 DEMO is 100% ly different and better !! :)
the game seems now more controlable and the attacking playing is much better now !! it is very difficult in the PES2010 DEMO but in the WE2010 DEMO its much better also the AI plays much better in the offensive !! :)
pOST BY EGYPTIAN PES FANBOY ON THE WENB FORUM
omg guys unbeliveable … i just created a account at the japan market place and i downloaded and i played the game .. omg omg like its tottaly defrent than pes like i belive its a new code or latest code .. when i playedi feel like its a pes5 i swear and new animation and even the game play is defrent than pes one and the add a new stadium and they just got a 2 clubs which barcelona and liverpool and 2 national teams which is brazil and italy … plz guys go and try to download it cuz its reallyplayable and tell me what u guys think ?
Definitely need a login system on here.
This site has turned into a joke thanks to idiots who repeatedly post nonsense such as above.
@99 Footie Fan
Just watched the video of W E 2010 demo and it does seem a lot smoother with diff animations!
Looks promising :-)
any news about base copy?
@102 are you for real? what i am doing is let every PES FAN (WHICH YOU ARE NOT JUDGING FROM YOUR COMMENTS)Know that a younger code has been released for WINNING ELEVEN which will go along way in calming everyone down that the response issue has been solved an dyou have the audasity to abuse me?
the winning eleven demo looks and plays no different to the pes one. sure there are a few bugs but what do you expect its not complete. it already looks like the best pes so far so the final game will be spot on.
PES 2010 feints tutorial HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UllB0nOSOVI&feature=player_embedded
These guys are just fifa funs and with the latest news they understood that their game(fifa) is over.Insert coins…..
I actually sensed from the short paragraph by Francis that he is generally pissed off with Konami for producing this demo so that gets my trust as i think we can all safely say he would care about this game given that he volentarily blogs on the site! He must feel the game is a lot better to take the time to produce the little rant he has.
Would like a few impressions from the winning eleven demo if possible from a few people, including stuff about the goalies, response times and any other small factors that added to or reduced your enjoyment?
cheers
http://www.konami.jp/we/2010/next_stage/?portal
Awesome
btw: me mentioning the response times before….
After playing the demo again, I DO NOT have many problems!
I normally try to play as you would in real life & press the pass button when my player is well positioned and I HARDLY had delays!
If I press the button BEFORE the receiver gets the ball, the player WILL make a first time pass/shot.
Its just that sometimes it is IMPOSSIBLE to pass, so the player needs an extra touch, but I rarely had this, only when the player is running with the ball, he knocks it forward and I try to pass IMMEDIATELY after he has knocked it forward!
This makes sence, as in real life when you move your foot forward to knock the ball you CAN NOT a fraction of a second later execute a pass, as your foot needs to go a bit backward again.
I think the response time should only be slightly better, but I start to love the realism it gives, no way do I want the pingpong football of before, I think Konami did this deliberately to increase realism & if you’ve played football yourself, you realize this is the case!
IK cant believe theres hardly been an uproar with the menus. THEY SUCK. The stat hexagons gone….why??? why not have the fifa scores and the hexagons?!??!?!? Was sooo much easier selecting your team with the hexagons. And why in their best positions is messi worse than henry?!??!?!! Downloading WE2010 now 61 % to go…… i didnt notice the 360\movement ats much as fifa’s at first but its very subtle. use the control stick deftly for maximum results
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQiVC1I9EgA
Video of the japanese demo. It seems they got a better version. looks like players control the ball much better, finesse shot actually works. Or maybe its just me. What do you guys think?
Stat hexagons? I can see them.. :\
Just had a few games on the Japanese demo and its so much better. Feels much more responsive, animations seem more complete, it plays quicker and the computer ai is much better. Can’t wait for the full game now
m@ – you can only see stat hexagons for the team not the players. where are you seeing them……if you are which im sure you’re not
Im so happy with the Winning Eleven demo. Even though I had started to settle in playing the PES 2010 demo, the WE one is so much better!!! Honestly, it its crazy how big of a difference small little things can do.
First of, the response rate is the biggest difference in my opinion, along with the passing, more crisp, e.g. through pass really works in the WE demo, as opposed to the PES one. Also I think the keepers are more solid. I also find the game more difficult in Super star, which is a good thing.
Though this demo is def not the final build, this demo is looking solid. Cant wait to read reviews on the final build!!!
Also, Fifa has a review score of 93% at ign.com. I have played the Fifa demo, and WE 2010 is much better. So Im betting PES 2010 will top 93%!!
SERIOUSLY. What the **** have they done with the menus!!!!!!!!
Also, WE2010 plays better but graphically not rendered as well….is that just me?
but then i couldnt really give two ****s about how they looked….stick men would do as long as the playabilty’s there
@ #1: :D.
PS. Is the japanese version different from the european version??? I mean when the final builds are delivered.
Thank god, cause I was actually considering going with Fifa this year… Something I hope that I never have to resort to.
I once was a PES fan and switched over when FIFA 09 came out. I downloaded the PES demo. You cannot give it a rating against FIFA 10 as this would be an insult. PES 2010 is in a league of its own which is extremely far behind FIFA 10. Its gameplay is so stagnant and not flowy. There is no atmosphere. It has turned into an arcade style game which offers nothing. Its graphics may have improved but it lacks the excitement of the actual game which FIFA 10 delivers on all fronts. FIFA 10 gamestyle flows so nicely and your ability to be creative is allowed on this game. People are saying that little changes were made from FIFA 09 to FIFA 10, but those people dont understand that the game is the closest to the real thing than any football game. Only little changes were made because FIFA 09 was such a strong base. Unlike pro ev where the last few years have been disgusting, they have to revamp the whole game each year and hence why there are so many changes. The problem lies at the top of the organisation as it shows they have little understanding of the actual game. Unfortunately, people cannot live with the fact that PES is going down the drain, so they keep making excuses to stay with the brand…but your only kidding yourself and are elusive to the fact that FIFA 10 is the best soccer game on the market.
for post 68
just one say this is xavi training with bolt?
he runs so fast in fifa 2010 loooooooool
be real dude
and you are right dude fifa 2010 is the best soccer game in the market
pes2010 is the best football game on the market ;)
@ 70
Hey genius, what do you think the “S” in PES stands for…
короче пес рулит вася
ВАСЯ, ГДЕ СКАЧАТЬ Уиннинг ЕЛЕВЕН ВАСЯ?????
Pes 10 the best game ever just downloaded with the japanese account and its awesome quick response and alot better than the current demo
I really enjoyed the demo but thanks for the heads up Frankie. That’s why we come here, for the inside goss!!
very happy to hear this :)
anyone knows what clubs and national teams are licensed on pes 10 >>>>???????????????????????????????????
From what ive seen in some sites
only 2 clubs from The English premier league: liverpool, manchester united….
12 clubs from La Liga : atletic club,atletico madrid, deportivo lacoruna, barcelona, real madrid, espanyol, villareal,valencia,racing de santander,valladolid and sevilla…
national teams same plus Germany National team..
same as last years version from south america, africa and asia…
anyone back me up plzz
WINNING ELEVEN 10 DEMO is now available on Japan marketplace of xbox360.
WE2010 just simply rocks. It is THE perfect football game. It is an improved PES5 on next gen console. Also WE2010 is so bloody addictive.
THE KING IS BACK!!!
Does anyone know if you can use an option file from pro evo 09 for pro evo 2010…….
we demo seems so much better than pes demo, there are still some niggly bits in there but is a demo, played as brazil and put the sliders to 100 you could tell the difference they were everywhere and reali wanted to always get forward, so addictive as well
I played the fifa demo again yesterday because for the last 5 days now i play the pro demo and it feels like the players of fifa demo are balerines jumping around and they step at the end of the football shoes on the grass.The song for the fifa this year i believe that should be: “I saw you dancing”
Seems like everyone writing on here are from the Con-army team now. I’m sure all those extra people that Seabass said he employed are just used to go writing on all these sites and forums to give people false hope. They know that apart from the 100 or so people that write on here, there are 1000’s that just come on here seeking new info about the game.
But don’t worry, i’m gonna stop posting here as I find it pointless. This story will only pan out 2 ways. Either when the final game is released everyone will go ‘oh no, it’s still rubbish. How didn’t I see that one coming’ or they will just keep on saying ’so many improvements bla bla bla bring on 2057 cuz surely by then Konami will get their act together’
I think the words “clutching’ and ’straws’ spring to mind here.
Pes or Fifa i hope that you really leave us and give us such a joy because we dont want you here telling us all these lies.
Go and buy fifa because that is what you want from the begining and dont try to persuade other people to do so because they will come after you…
does the ref give advantage in final build??
Listen PES or FIFA, play the winning eleven demo and see if thats different, if it is not then you may have a point. If it is then…humble pie.
@ 85
PES OR FIFA knows everything before even happen.Ask him about the weather tommorow because i have to travel and i want to know if it is going to rain or not.
WOW what an absolutely chipper demo! I couldnt be happier with it if i was twins!
it seems the fifa fans are so much not happy that based on we2010 pes 2010 is going to the best football game this year.
They feel fifa 2010 is good but because of pes 2010 being good it has taken away the feel good factor for them.
Right I love PES always have….but this fanboy nonsense in the last few posts is….well….nonsense…..grow up juveniles.
@89
yeah tell that to the fifa fanboys
You have to grow up because you are not telling us your name.What a mature post!!!!! (Anonymous)
@ 88
TRUTH SPOKEN!!!!!
They was not expecting (fifa funs on this site)that pro is going to be so good and now they dont know what to do or to say…
were
The only thing that is a worry with the WE2010 is i hope the final pes2010 will have the response of we2010 and not as fast because the pace of the pes version is just perfect and alsmost seems real. a fast paced game is going to be arcadey.
but all in all THE FOOTBALL KING HAS RETURN.
If PES wants to reclaim top spot, it has to get the online working as well as FIFAs.
FIFA offline, lacks long term appeal. But the online gaming and community keep the game interesting.
I pretty much never play an FPS offline. I dont really enjoy it. But online is a different matter.
I’d be interested to see how quickly FIFA fans would recognise the gameplays lack of depth if they could only play offline.
how do i set up a japanese account?
i can change the language to japanese and try to navigate creating an account but when i go to write a username the keypad is still in english (dont think its allowed cause nothing works)
any help? cause i really wanna get we2010 demo :D
Colin….
http://blogs.ign.com/xheavenxsentx/2006/12/09/39684/
I dont know how to make it work like a like
oh…lol…soz its working
Assuming you have a P3 of course..if not soz
Fifa games always feel and play the same to me. Fifa can’t even beat PES for graphics this time round and thats what Fifa always had over PES that, sponsors and better commentary.
The only Fifa game I liked was Fifa Road to the World Cup 98 on the PC. I remember World Cup 98 on the PS that was ok too. The worst Fifa i played was Fifa 97 on the PS.
As for PES I really liked PES 6 on the PC. Fun times playing online and with the patches too I was playing with my team Everton at Goodison Park, so cool.
I can’t wait to play the WE 2010 demo!!! Because in the pes 2010 demo the response of players are definetly a problem. I know that there are a lot posts who tells us that this will be solved and I believe it though! But what makes me very happy is that the WE 2010 is comparished with Pes 5, pes 5 is my most favourite version of the Pes series. And this should be much improved! I hope the final build of Pes 2010 will be a lot like pes 5!
Btw, maybe this question is already been answerd but, can anyone confirm if WE 2010 will be the same as PES 2010?
will someone write a mini review on the WE 2010 demo in comparison to the PES one??
V. interested to see what (if any) difference there is between the two demos.
(if this has already been done someone point me in the right direction pls)
I’ve played quite a few games on the PES2010 demo now and although I’m getting used to it its defo got problems. I think like a fair few of us in here I was quite good at dribbling, from the stupidly nutty dribbling in pes4 to the more considered strength based dribbling in PES 5 and 6. To last two years hybrids I cant say I’m not dissapointed to see that its a lot harder now. However that I can get used to, its the really delayed reactions that I cant get used to. People say its not realistic if its too quick, but to be honest its not realistic one man controlling 11 players on a pitch! I think as its a game we should be rewarded for having quick reactions, making dribbling harder is fair enough, butpassing and turning, thats just silly.
Interesting to see what happens
sorry if some1 has asked these questions but does any1 knw if all the teams are licensed and what stadiums are in the game. also if we have to pick the teams to make the 4 leagues in the master league?
Shinja Nyoki – this guy do not work for Konami, otherwise he would not have claimed PES to be an arcade game. I work for Konami as part of the developement team working on the Castlevania: Lords of Shadow project, and will admit that i am in no way invloved with the PES productions team. But after checking with the reception lady, there is nobody or no-one by the name of Shinja Nyoki who works in this building. PES team do not use consultants from external sourse, so he is in no way involved in the PES development cycle, and his comments should not be beleived as they cannot be vaidated in any way.
I will not go into detail of the latest PES product as i am not involved in that area, but what i will say is that i have had a test of a 90% code of the game and the response time of the game is fixed. It is still with added realism, but the ‘delay’ most people experienced in demo code was a bug which is now fixed, as are the animations, goalkeepers, and shooting. Again, i cannot go into detail, but bugs have been ammended. I am a Winning eleven player(japan version) and those of you who have played the latest WE demo will see that it is much slicker than the PES demo. Both game will be almost identical when release day comes.
I for one was a suprised as anybody about the code PES team released – the team i am part of would never have would not release such a basic technical exapmle WIP code, its puzzling as to why they did this, but they are in direct competition with EA and i presume they wanted PES fans to play the PES demo not the FIFA, hence the rushed release of a far from complete code.
Any questions and i will try to answer, but my knowledge of the process is limited as it is not my area of work.
Thanks
Shun
Post above Sounds like Major BS to me!
I find it so funny when people are pretending to be from Konami etc. What’s even more funny is that most of the kids on here will believe it. I heard that Konami just invented this little widgety thing that sucks u into the game. Supposed to be wicked as flying pies.
Btw Shunsuke Nakatima=Fake person, Shunsuke Nakamura=ex-Celtic player.
Just finished playin a few games on WE 2010, jus a few quick intitial thoughts..
- response times significantly reduced
- more fluid play due to above point
- Goalkeepers not as bad but still prone to mistakes
- Crap menu music (don’t care about that myself)
To summarise i’m pretty positive that the final product (pes) will be great!
the we 2010 demo is awesome i had a few scares when i played pes 2010 but got used to it and realised it really was a good game them i played we and i was like wow it was brilliant and to think its not even the final game
passing is more fluid
responsiveness is good, it even had a time where i was attacking the ai goal and was about to be closed down by the defenders and still got the shot away.
pes beating boring old fifa 4 sure this year
@106 totally agree
@107 is dribbling easier lol?
@104 nice try
@107..”easier” as in you can control what you want to do better yes
sorry i ment @ 109
Sounds positive, still dont get why they released it so early. Id rather not have had the demo at all!
Only thing bugging me about the game (now that I’m going to reserve judgement on the gameplay aspect until its out)is that Man Utd may be rubbish, and I am always Man Utd. Guess when you support a team you find it hard to be any other team.
I didn’t get it either..probably just wanted to get one out because fifa had theirs out maybe
@114 – maybe, still not totally convinced that its all a big mistake and the demo was bad. Im forcing myself to believe it as the alternative sucks!
Dear all,
I can cofirm that the demo released was only 70% complete. We released it to irk all you fans of the series. That way when you play the real game you’ll love us ten times more.
xx
Satoshi (I’m real, honest)
If Carlsberg wrote blog comments..
can someone please give a quick idiots guide on how i download we2010, i dont understand how you go on that server?????????
Me 2, does somebody have guide for the xbox?
Hallo.
My name is Junjini,(aliases) I am co game-play designers from PES team Japan.
I was recommend to this site by Shunsuke, I found this site interesting in it’s honestly.
Shunsuke Nakatima is part of Konami, I was contact from a Konami number, I checked on our employees database, verify.
People have upset with Europe Demo. The Europeans have found that create a account to Japanese they have newer house PES Demo.
The reasonsing for this you understand is PES is Japanese video game realate to Japanese peoples. Europe is not our soul intend audience, via sales and products.
PES has organic Japanese flowers, we start at the bottom and grow outward. We always go back to our flower when look for inspirate.
It is firm belief that PES is Japnaese and stays Japanese with minor European Influence. This mean not Europe bad influence but minor influence.
The European demo is sub zero-terperate as you Europeans are not target audience.
Please enjoy our game, as we intend to provides for all Nation and race, however Europe is not only Continents in World.
@120
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! thats pure class better than my one
Not bad eh?!
@119, i dont think you can do it with xbox. Not that I’ve tried. DOEs anyone know?
@ 120
I don’t understand your comment, are you telling that WE and PES will have differences?
Hallo
Just a quick post to say that everything junjini says above is twue and we do origionate the flower of pes in china and japan
Yes, it’s much better, check it out on you-tube.
I haven’t tried a Jap account yet as im not on my computer.
It sounds complicated. Do you have to change servers??
120.
I think it’s real.
@126..i jus set up a new account..it was pretty complicated and i didnt know wat i was typing at some points.. but got there in the end
@128
Cool, I will try later. I dislike the PES10 demo so playing this version might agree with me more!
I’m selling a wormary on Ebay, anybody want one? It was a nice home for my garden worms but I accidently left the plug on and it got flooded in the rain.
It is now a mass worm grave site but it is only 2 weeks old.
Any takers?
Just played italy vs brazil on “superstar” mode.. finished 0-0 .. and is it jus me or does the A.I. have more flair and an eye for the spectacular than in the pes demo n previous versions of the game?!.. just had robinho try a 35 yard screamer which crazhed of the bar and bounced back out..entertaining stuff!
@120 Junjini Inamoto (aliases)
I actually believe this one, or at least what he’s saying. Would explain why Konami have been neglecting us so much in recent years.
im loving t demo but one thing i dont understand is y strikers in the game can score goals from a long range easily but fail even a simple close range goal ( example-in a corner kick situation,after t kick it reaches henry, henry hits a volley at the GK which leads to a rebound from the gk and messi picks it up very close to the right goal post,at this moment i hit t shoot button hoping dat messi will hit near the right post since the GK is closer to left post but instead he hits t ball in such a wierd way dat it reaches near the left post where a defender clears it) this situation has happened so many times….a simple touch to the ball would hav resulted in a goal but it doesnt happen..
Yes, there will be differences in the 2 releases, simply to facilitate the damand of the differing market ie language – would english players want japanese commentary, menus etc. The core features are identical, but there are some localisations. Also, there will be a futher localised version in the pipe line containing Japanese sides in place of some European sides.
FIFA10 is a Kobe beef filet mignon, PES10 is a greasy hamburger. There are times that I prefer to have a hamburger instead of a steak, but I am under no illusion as to which one is qualitatively better. So far, I have seen three reviews (ign, eurogamer, and a spanish review), all of which give the nod to FIFA.
The King is most definitely not back, but at least his is no longer sitting in a corner, wearing a soiled robe, drooling all over himself while muttering incoherently. Oh well, maybe in 2057 when Konami ditch Seabass will we get a proper next gen game from Konami. Maybe they should put Greyhound in charge (produced the excellent Wii version of PES).
I’m looking forward to both PES and FIFA this year. I’m buying FIFA on Friday then if it’s still orrible and wooden with easy tackling and exploits I will buy PES2010.
atleast on t PC, pes pawns fifa in everyway possible..
what about WE2010 for pc???
Just played we2010 and it is brilliant. Looks like a far newer build than pes demo . Now I’m 100% gettin pes2010
Why is everyone assuming that WE2010 final version will be the same as PES2010 final version? Pretty big assumption if you ask me, especially since it wouldn’t be the first time that the Japanese version was different than the european version.
Anyone knows about a patch for pes 10??
Are the players still on rails when you give a through ball i.e. they go into comp control and yount move them until the ball is touched again?
have the crazy bright lights been removed?
are crosses still over sensitive at times?
soc160
i simple tap of r2 puts you in control of the player when you play a through ball as on all the other pes titles!
where can i download the we2010 demo for ps3 help!!!!
I have just created a japanese account and I am about to play w.e 2010. I didn’t like the pes 2010 demo much and have decided i’m buying FIFA. Well lets see how good this version is. I’ll give it am hour or ton!
Good job so far Konami. Positevely impressed with the demo after playing just 10 games. Just make sure the online is properly done, we need tournaments like world up, champions league and so on. That is a must. i will definitely buy this game if the online is fixed.
PES 2010 v Winning Eleven 2010 demo comparisons.
Created a Japanese XBOX live account and downloaded winning eleven 2010. First impressions, I breathed a huge sigh of relief. There are definitely fewer bugs if none at all in the general behaviour of the players. The goalies are more life like, holding shots they would in real life and parrying others. Players first touch seemed better with some additional subtle animations when controling the ball and turning which seemed to help with the respnse times when passing, in fact the respose times were better all round they are still there compared to 2009 but it feels much more natural with the new animations. The passing seemed to actually go where i wanted it to and the throughball actally passes the ball in to space beyond the opposing player and not directly to him, meaning if the run is timed correctly some great flowing / counter attacking football can be achieved. The 360 dribling seemed marginally better and the ball seemed more in control at the players feet when dribling. Also the AI of your team mates was improved with more inteligent off the ball movement in both attack and defense. These changes are only subtle and the more you play the more you notice them but they do enough to enhance the game. These comments are purely bassed on comparing one demo with another. I am not saying the game is a masterpiece but overall i am much more at ease about the game now and if any further improvements are made between when the Jap demo was produced and the game is finally released then it can only be a good thing. Keep the faith.
anyone doubting konami please play we2010… unbelievable.
P.s PATO does his love heart celebration, looks awsome.
they are doing online playtest of pes at the tokyo games show, and apparently the guy fernando wenb sources said
“Let me tell you that they had online play test machines. You played from the Konami booth against someone at the SCEJ booth. And the games seems to be even slower pace. No lag whatsoever…”
thats good news but of cause thats just one man and hes opinion at the moment.
Cc
Can anyone tell me about any patch for pes 10
winning eleven demo is definitely better than pes 2010 demo in all aspects. it even has a higher difficulty than top player! 6 star difficulty is back! I have no doubt the final game will be better than the EU demo.
definitely agree wit the post abovee…Winning Eleven Demo is much better ;]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftzx3Nqcs7M&feature=player_embedded
wow on 1:38
UNBELIEVABLE!The japenese version is so much better.
THATS A RELIEF.
ok dudes, im downloading the winning eleven demo for my xbox 360 -
ill give my opinion in due course. Trust me I wont let emotions get in the way of waht its really like.
Cant wait.
If anyone ones to know how to get it for xbox – im sure u alreayd do – let me know.
interesting to see its a smaller file.
the improvement in reaction times makes for a much better game, thats just from 2 matches experiance
cheers bopez, keep it coming.
are the feint, dummy shot animations in there ?
ok guys, ive played a few games now. These are the main differences I’ve noticed:
1. Extra level of difficulty – Now you can play at a “superstar” level. The main difference I noticed as far as this goes during gameplay is the CPU is a lot more commited, faster to the ball and the keepers are a LOT better. Which is nice.
2. Reaction times – Just goes to show how a small change can make a massive difference. The players react quicker and it makes for an enjoyable experiance. This doesnt make dribbling easier, but does make it possible. You can react last minute but depending on how good your player is at a given attribute you’ll get that reaction. Messi is really good, carragher not so good at turning. When you press pass, it passes – straight away. If you want a clean instant first touch pass you need to press the button with accurate timing, especially for less skilled players. I’ve said before That i love to dribble. Its hard in this game, but I quite like the challenge, the reaction times means its at least possible. Reminds me of PES5.
3. Passing – Ball seems to go where you want it to go a lot more than the PES2010 demo. Players seem much more alive to the possibility of recieving the ball.
4. Speed of game & speed of players – Maybe its just me, but I think the game is a tad slower. Thats just something to get used to and isnt a bad thing. The fast players are faster than the slow players, that is something massive from 2009 as they all seemed to run at the same pace.
OK, all in all thats all I’ve got to say. Niggles wise you still have a few, but I guess that always happens. Nothing that makes me want to hit the screen. The PES2010 demo was like playing 2009 online against someone with a flickering red connection. This demo seems more refined, hopefully the game even more so. All in all, if this came out last week instead of the PES2010 demo none of us would have really complained that much..
Hope that helps!
fients in there as far as i can tell, oh and 360 dribbling isnt perfect, needs work done to it, but i guess we cant have evreything.
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I agree with many of u the demo isnt as gd as i thought it would be I also have the fifa 10 demo which I think is better but wen pro 10 comes out on te 23rd of october then we will all regret these messages
having played both demos and feeling the level of control and movement in FIFA is just light years away from PES and i think until Konami re-vamp the in game engine PES will always be the second best game from now on. IMO
winning eleven demo vs pes demo
we demo
pes2009 response times.
refined 360 movement.
r2 button far more effective and refined.
much better player response off the ball,players overlap on crosses that are over hit.
players turn quicker and have far greater dribbling control.
Crossing and the long pass refined and perfected you can now add greater curl plus forwards move better to head or volley crosses.
Through ball much improved still needs to be slightly tweaked.
short passing far more accurate.
shooting almost honed to perfection.
animations more seamless.
keepers move around there box better.
less glitchy and buggy.
better team balance.
All round then a much better demo which i think is the 90% build while the pes demo is around 75%.
How is everyone managing to get the WE2010 demo????
I created a Jap account but to download the demo it says Gold Members Only!
How annoying, (didn’t he have a ‘unfortunate smelting accident’… yesh it’sh toight, like a toiger!)
Can anyone help? Is a Silver Account no good?
@Bopez.
Interesting that someone that aint a little pes-fanny-boy is reporting notable differences between the WE and PEs demo.
Have tried to get a copy of the WE demo for PC but by lack of Japanese language knowledge is somewhat hindering the process.
I suppose if they really do have the response timings TOTALLY fixed then it would make a big difference to the enjoyment of the game. But that still wont make it a great game, just a decent game. I think the exponential curve of diminishing returns is really starting to kick in with this limited ancient video football AI engine, or it is at least for those who have been playing it for about 10 years anyhow.
MatTheCat 168
What football game is better then?you talk about pes2010 like theres a better alternative on the market.
Pes2010 is a very different game to any other pes its more like ISS or perfect striker on the n64 with the zone pressing and freedom and control on the long ball and crossing plus the ai behavior of your teamates and the tactical depth provided by the tactics slider and cards is unparalled.
If you refering to fifa10 as a point of reference get real its ok but it hardly takes a lot of skill to play and is geared more for people that want quick and instant thrills without the requirment of any thought.
This whole fifa10 has more freedom in the passing is bull its a illusion and pes2010 360 movement is much more real and organic and you notice it more at slower speeds.
Pes2010 much better game then any previous pes,much more realistic and true to the real sport with very dynamic play that is addictive.
My opinion of pes2010 is based on the we demo which demonstrates that pes productions have better productin values then ea,understand the game more and are in a different class to ea.
Eclipse Dj
I got my we demo of the the japanese PSN,just create a new user or profile on your ps3 then go to the playstation store and select your region as japan.Your have to register before you download and make sure you put you email address as co.uk not.com as it wont recognise a .com email adress.
Create a new user name and password and just fill in any japanese text as your address its doesnt matter and then downlaod away.
Lovely demo,so good i would not be unhappy if this was the final code.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQiVC1I9EgA
would that be the game u guys are playing? coz is looks better than wat im playing thats for sure!
i need it for pc…
that said, a bit faster as well…hmm
If you turn the settings in Fifa 09 to manual it becomes a much harder game to play as you need to measure every pass to perfection to score a goal. I don’t know if it is different for Fifa 10 but I have been playing Fifa 09 recently because it is more challenging and less predictable for me. May be I played PES 2009 too much and it became too repetitive but I hope that there’s more variation in the gameplay for PES 2010.
Dopecoil:
Play FIFA on manual setting mate — it ain’t pick up and play. You seem real intent on repeating anti-FIFA talking points that are 5 years old, so I guess you are unable to change your mind.
If you prefer PES, fine, but to say FIFA is aimed at the casual gamer while PES is aimed at hardcore is ridiculous. Even Seabass told ign that they were not doing simulation anymore. At least FIFA doesn’t force me to pass to the player it thinks I ought to be passing to…
Where’s Francis’ review of the latest code?
R – dude
The WE demo is in a different dimension to the pes demo almost like a different game.
Golasso
I know what your saying but if your skilled enough even in pes2009 you still have more freedom with the analog stick then people realise,its just a case of curving the ball and thinking about your placement its not as assisted as people think and now in pes/we 2010 its even more free especially the through ball and long pass which you do have full directional and placement control.The whole manual passing in fifa09 is over-rated and gives the illusion of freedom by players moving towards the ball and the opposition not cutting out through balls and passes like they do in pes.
Anyway fifa10 and 09 simply dont have the individuality or team balance like pes/we 2010 and with pes/we2010 every team feels unique and more like there real life counterparts.
Gazelle
I respect your opinion but fifa10 is so easy and acessible and i think the 360 movement is false and a cheap gimmick as when your not using the dash button fifa10 feels very 8-axis still.
Golasso
It takes 6 seconds to get to full running speed in pes/we2010 which is the same as real life and if you have time on the ball its stunning how quickly players like messi and kaka run,in fifa10 its about 3 seconds and is a exaggerated runnng curve,fifa10 for me this year has become like older fifa games more arcady and acessible when pes/we 2010 is more simulated then its ever been.
Remember this is a pes forum not fifa.
You mentioned FIFA in your last several posts :-0
And in the real world it doesn’t take six seconds to get to full speed, more like 3 — ask yourself how often does someone even spend six seconds with the ball besides the GK. In six seconds, even an average footballer can take the ball from the halfway line to the goal. Watch a game this afternoon…
And if you think PES is a sim, you need to see a doctor.
kinda makes me wish konami took their time a little releasing the demo, even though i couldnt actually wait. They should re release it.
anyhoo
i hear a lot about fifa’s manual passing and to be honest how many people actually use it? because i dont no anyone who does, i dont even use it, not even on pes and im pretty skilled.
Dopecoil
“It takes 6 seconds to get to full running speed in pes/we2010 which is the same as real life”
Either in real life or pes2010 the players get to full
running speed after the 5-6 seconds. 1 sec for pushing the ball forward and 2-3 for running.in the first 2-3 seconds is accelerating and after is in full speed,humans don’t have gears :P
Golasso
“In six seconds, even an average footballer can take the ball from the halfway line to the goal.”
only if theres no opposition
R – dude
The we demo is faster but thats football now its a fast game,the beauty with pes/we 2010 is you dictate the speed and tempo with your play and passing and team style via the slider.
I personally think this speed argument is silly look at the premiership and the speed of the game it slows and speeds up to lightning pace at different times in the game.When the game is compact things are slower when its more stretched and open its faster pes/we 2010 reflects this and this is accurate the last thing we want is a slow game thats just not football now maybe 20 years ago its was that way.
agreed with above
@182:
I was think of situations where Evra or Dani Alves get the ball with no one in front of them… that’s one of my (many)frustrations with the PES demo — only Messi seems to have any pace. Is he better than pretty much any other player in the world? Yes. But his gift is skill, not necessarily just pace.
I love old school PES when it really was aiming at simulation. But I just feel like they are overcompensating for the lack of a new engine by taking things away or failing to improve on things. We are forced to pass to the wrong player, a fast player gets the ball on the wing and he is running slower than a constipated troll, it is nigh on impossible at times to hit a first time shot with even a good player. I am not asking to just run around the defense or score a 25 yard screamer everytime, but if Torres lays the ball off for Gerard to shoot, and I hit the shoot button while the ball is rolling to Gerard, he ought to shoot. And if Evra gets the ball against Riera, I’m sorry, but he should blow by him 9 times out of ten. And if he decides to pass it to Benzema standing 10 yards away, I should have the choice on where to PRECISELY play the ball. Maybe his shot is wildly off target, but the player shouldn’t be forced into a trap animation and then the chance is gone.
Panagiotis
No they dont have gears but its harder to run with a ball then without it as you will probably notice in pes because defenders can catch fast players with the ball because naturally there quicker without it as they dont have to worry about controlling a ball.
Its all the little subtle things in pes/we 2010 that make the difference over fifa10 things that the average gamer might take days,weeks,months to realise but those in the know and who understand and have been watching football for more then 20 years can see these little subtletys that make the difference.
A example its actually quite hard to disposses the opposition with the ball and this is reflected well in pes/we 2010 when in fifa10 you only have to get near the player and you win the ball plus the players are floatie and have no real centre of gravity or momentum like they do in pes/we 2010.
Fifa10 might have flashy cosmetic animations that look pretty in the wide cam while pes/we2010 new animations enhance the gameplay there not cosmetic.
Golasso 185
Thats the pes demo the we demo is different the dribbling is better and the turning speeds its a rubbish demo the european version very unfinished with animation clipping the we demo is more like pes5 very accurate but naturally much better then pes5.
@ 183 Dopecoil
Oh yeh i totally agree, i wasn’t complaining, football is a fast game if you want it to be it’s the players decision, its just that after playing the demo for so long and looking at that video it looked a bit fast-fowardy if you no wat i mean.
@185 Golasso
yeh but thats why we push the ball forward to keep the pace up so they cant catch up with you, like in real life.
Fifa2010 full on pc sucks!!!! I played it right now for 5 minutes,I couldn’t stand it for more. All options was set to high,video quality,grass 3d,details high,1920×1080 resolution.
The graphics were like ps1, I have 2 8800GTX on SLi mode btw.
WTF? PES2010 demo not to mention WE2010 demo is far better than this and imagine the full version of pes.
Fifa2010 on pc doesn’t have the same sense of gameplay and the same or better graphics. The same thing every year,when I’m waiting pes new game I try to see how much fifa changed
because it’s released earlier than pes. Why on pc it’s so bad made?
@ 189:
I hear ya, but it still doesn’t feel fast enough to me. Even with the double-tap R1, Dani Alves still is hunched over and having someone much slower than him in real life keep up.
Panagiotis
EA are still and will always will be a money hungry, evil company. if they see no money in something they wont bother, they treat pc gamers like crap so that they will buy a console and pay more money for there games.
That way everybody wins! -.-
There excuse for not releasing the same (console) fifa game on pc is because “only 3% of PC gamers in the world would be able to run the game”
@191
yeh i no wat u mean. probably because they dont push the ball forward far enough when theres more space, unless you do step overs and push it forward. ill admit when your in that situation its very annoying.
R-dude
what a poor excuse,the pixel shaders they use are paleolithic.
If a computer cannot stand it the user simply could lower the graphic details and the resolution. They aim for the PS3 owners cause they cannot play a pirate copy so they can have some profit,they are a company and they behave like a company :) electronic f-arts!!!!
Francis – Where are your views on the final build that you were going to post today?! you said a few weeks back that you would be back blogging on saturdays but you never do!? appreciate that its volentary that you provide us with these updates ect but just dont get our hopes up and let us down!!
@Dopecoil
I disagree with your response to Golasso in post 176. Please note that I am talking about Fifa 09 in this post as I have not played the Fifa 10 demo. In PES when you press the pass or through ball button you can direct the ball in rough direction of where you want it to go and the AI makes you pass to a player in that direction. In Fifa 09 on manual passing settings the direction you hold the analogue stick in is where the ball goes. Even PES 2009’s manual pass on the right analogue stick can only go in 8 rigid directions.
I agree that on default settings Fifa 09 is an easier game than PES 2009 generally but annoyingly a lot of the challenge comes from the momentum system that you have no control over. Hopefully they will sort that out for the final product of PES 2010.
P.S. It may seem like I talking more about Fifa than Pro Evo on a PES site. Don’t get me wrong I want both games to do well this year but I am thinking a lot about Fifa because it is coming out in 6 days. I am far more excited about Pro Evo – why else would I be on PESGaming – than I am about Fifa.
PES 2010 Master League – can’t wait!
one question will WE2010 be the full version to be released on the 23/10…or wat????
Panagiotis
i no right! its just that simple lol plus there requirements for the game are a little bit more than pro evo’s and every other game they release has high specs as well, it just doesnt make sense
electronic f-arts indeed
Didn’t this mug promise us a review for today?
yes simples…….. I hope at least today (Sunday)
our friend to remember us.
The posts on here have gone really down hill over the past few days. There’s no-one left that knows what they’re talking about. I will never understand why stupid people try and express their useless opinions.
@201 PESorFIFA
“The posts on here have gone really down hill over the past few days.”
Why because no one is constantly slagin off pro?
“I will never understand why stupid people try and express their useless opinions.”
Major contradiction there, i would consider re-writing
sunday now…no colum
Where is yesterdays post?
And also the new game is spectacular althoughWE is much better than pes.
isnt winning eleven a diferent game than the one we are getting here in europe?
your a joke francis, just a part time blogger.
settle down fellas, maybe something urgent came up for francis, after all PES is not his life.
is there a link for that we pc demo?
pes10 demo is good.But seeing some old problems pop out once again is frustrating.Players having seizures when fighting(?)for a high lob, same old tackles, broken tricks system, non existing feints, slower response time…I really want to believe that even some of these problems will be sorted out…
http://www.konami.jp/we/2010/next_stage/?portal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3dGxdXpt9g&feature=player_embedded#t=20
all pesfans should see this!
konami should copy gameplay things too, not just the sliders!
PES 10 DEMO IS AMAZING AT TOP PLAYER DIFFICULTY…IF NEXT YEAR THEY COPY FIFA10′S BETTER FEATURES IT’S GOING TO BE AMAZING. SEABASS PUT YOUR EGOISM ASIDE AND BRING SOME INNOVATION TO THIS WONDERFUL GAME…
To FILOMENO
Dude fifa as improved the gameplay but or about those graphics? the game looks horrible and no player individuality again? thats like the 3rd year with the players feeling the same.
For me fifa2010 is being overrated and its a good game with a good atmoshpere but its so far way of being a game that represent football
@201 so why do express your opinion if all expressing her are stupid. guess that makes you stupid aswell. idiotto
Sorry, who is Francis?
Hi boys, it’s me Francis. Sorry I didnt post a review yesterday, I was ever so busy. I’ll see if I can get round to it today.
Toodles,
Francis X x x
maritimo 205
winning eleven 2009 last year was the same as the european version in everything but name as i had both,this year there might be a speed difference due to the japanese liking a faster game when we in europe prefer it slower.
I hope the euro version is the same speed as the japanese demo as it feels just about right with solid response times.
Just to let people know to maximise the through ball in both demos make sure in the tactics slider setting you have player support set so teamates look to get in front of the player with the ball and you will not get players feeling sticky and un-reactive to through balls.
Gazelle 196
I know what your saying cheif but dont read to much into the pes2010 demo as compared to the we2010 its awful.The reasons why is in the we2010 demo the dribbling is more finished and refined and its easier to beat a man or two with the ball at your feet with a quick player and when you experience it your understand its very realistic and watching MOTD last night and torres made me realise how much konami have nailed it this year,plus you can turn quicker and you dont notice the animation changes as theres no clipping and response issues.
Also in top player and superstar difficulty its rock hard when the euro demo is a bit easy.
to 211 paulnuk: So now the graphics are more important in a football game when PES actually looks decent for the first time in 10 years?
Strange when FIFA looked a lot better than PES, people used to say it’s the gameplay that is important and not the graphics. Now PES plays absolutely horrible but looks decent and it’s suddenly the best game? When FIFA looks great too but more importantly plays near perfect and it sucks?
Wake up PES fanboys, you can’t keep making excuses year after year after year anymore when the game is falling behind.
Some people are hust haters no matter what PES 2010 will be the return of the king and some fifa fan s are rubbed the wrong way .
dEAR Francis..
Ok we’re waiting your review… Also in forum there is a thread which we piled up q’s for you about the review code.. if you answer those too.. we’ll be appreciated…
hi
played winnig eleven demo and think pes demo is better.
WE demo is too fast and unrealistic. arcade style
looking foward to francis review
Francis, I hope that you write your review today, as Im desperate to know how the review code is compared to the WE and PES 2010 demos!!! C’mon mate;)
dopecoil
thank u..
i ve downloaded the 2 demos and the japanese has a better response when passing tthe ball and its a bit quite faster i just hope we get something better than the demo
any news abt the keepers yet..??
yeah william, they’re as bad as Ian walker on a bad day.
@ 217
Yeah but can you say that EA have addressed the repetitive feel of the game? According to many fans, the repetitiveness is still there.
Therefore, is FIFA10 enough of an improvement over FIFA09?
I think this is similar to PES5 and PES6, PES6 is not an actual improvement on PES5, it’s different but not necessarily an improvement.
I feel like FIFA is in the same sitiuation now… FIFA09 was a huge improvement, in most fans opinions. But with FIFA10 they are just polishing what they have, can it still improve significantly?
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/27/pes-2010-trophy-list/
PES 2010 trophy list
playing pes10 is like playing any pes game.especially in the hardest level the game is identical.
What i want is to give us some new ideas and innovations.
The graphics are cool but what about new ideas?
Hi Guys,
Might have already been mentioned, but could someone tell me if the UEFA Champions League is featured in this years master league?
@ 228
Yes it does, and UEFA EUROPA LEAGUE is also there in the MASTER LEAGUE.
singing wheres your francis gone, wheres your francis gone………………………and on and on and on and on…………
WE demo has faster response time than PES demo other than that theres no difference
does any1 know if heres goin to be more than 4 leagues in the master league?
the last few lines arnt serious :)
thanks for review mate
i thought that the pes 10 demo was good and i enjoyed how much more difficult it seems than pes 09 however the dribbling was like watching the teletubies kicking that effin big orange ball around serıously only david silva could even give me a realistic feel even then it took a couple of games to even get past 3 players via dribbling and whats with the crossing its unpredictable sometimes the ball plays roughly where i want it but then at times it goes sky high? and players first touches are disgusting i bet timmy from south park could recieve a ball better that what iv seen so far!! i think il try play the game when it comes out on rental before i buy it because if its exactly the same as the demo then im not gonna buy it and i refuse to buy fifa as the game is just too childish
hey did someone download from gamingaccess a file to unlock the champions league mode>? i ve downloaded the file and its true it unlocked:):):) yessssss!!!