I am ROFL with the responses to the reviews.. Clearly the majority of the people here are just fanboys who have no intention of reviewing the game objectively.. Its funny to see you guys continue to defend the pathetic game that is PES today.I said it before the games came out that PES would be out reviewed and by far that has already been the case.

Sorry, WHAT information? “We’ve added ANOTHER lighting engine” or “TeamVision 9.0 will be included in PES 2011″…or do you mean the classic “This year, we’ve worked hard to convert WEN into real money – something that took us all of five minutes and is actually one of our major things to shout about this year.”

There is no information. The game is the same every year and frankly, those who can’t even make any sort of acknowledgement that FIFA has improved IMMENSELY in the last three years is stuck in cloudcuckooland.

http://www.frog-games.co.uk/index.php cPath=30&osCsid=mhuqpj9h0rhg6end8ikj04lhe5

Just to clarify I do have FIFA 10, but obviously have not Played Pes 10 – I thought the comment I made above was a little ambiguous on that point.

@71 Johnson

Same here mate, I think the two games are now being aimed at kids who aren’t old enough to remember how great Pes was on the PS2, and as Turk mentioned earlier, as long as people keep buying little will change.

I think the major problem with companies having to release a yearly title is that perhaps there’s just not enough time, especially with the extra detail that next-gen requires, to put the work in.

Personally I would be much happier with a properly made game released once every two or three years. In between new releases they could offer squad updates for say £10 – £15.

If you look at other genres i.e. action games like Assassins Creed and Drakes Fortune, these games are normally two or three years in production after the previous instalment.

I think with the demands of realism, online play, and live season updates etc it is no longer feasible for companies like EA and Konami to produce yearly titles.

I think that fans would be much happier if we got an amazing ‘jaw dropping’ title once every couple of years and just seasonal squad updates in between.

The problem with this idea is capitalism. There’s more profit in yearly releases and if they can get away with selling half finished games to people – as both products clearly are – then they will continue to do so.

It’s time to exercise consumer power and ‘vote with our notes’.

Put yourself forward to be a blogger on here, maybe you could have some influence as a voice for us past / present PES fans.

One thing we must all congratulate Konami on is the fact that they did listen to the fans, if they can tweak this then i think the future could be bright.

I also bought FIFA 09 last year, because Pes2009’s online was unplayable. I traded in my copy of Pes 2009 in for it.

Offline I found that Pes2009’s game-play was far worse than that of Pes 6; I even found it direr than Pes 2008.

You asked me why I think FIFA 10 is better than Pes 2010. I obviously haven’t played the finished article, but when you’ve been playing Konami’s king of soccer for over a decade you can tell how a game is going to play by watching game-play videos.

I find that FIFA 10’s passing is far superior to Pes’; for me this is the most important aspect of any football game, it must have fluid, flowing passing. Pes 6 had this, Pes 2009 and 10 do not!

The thing is that I don’t like FIFA 10 either. There are loads of bugs in the game as many people have already pointed out.

Response times can still feel delayed, players fall over and lose the ball when they come into any kind of physical contact with another player – matches can descend into pinball sessions.

It seems that when any other player gets within a couple of yards of the ball carrier he will automatically tackle them, unless of course you pull off some random ‘trick stick’ move. This would be fine, if the trick stick wasn’t temperamental. I once had a car with a gear stick very similar to this, you never knew what gear you were going to get – it was like a lucky dip!

One of the inexcusable bugs in FIFA 10 is that after you score the player who has done so often runs straight into the back of the net and begins bouncing of it, even when you pull off a celebration. This didn’t happen in FIFA 09 so they have actually managed to make it worse.

Menus are slow and sticky to navigate and manager’s mode may as well not be there it is so boring.

When you look at games in other genres, the gulf between what fans of series such as Grid, Colin Mcrae, Drakes Fortune and Call of Duty etc are being offered, and then look at what football fans are receiving from this pair of plonkers, and the gulf is massive.

The problem is that no third-party can now enter the competition, because EA and Konami have all the licences sown up!

So it looks like football fans are now going to have to put up with years of ****e from these two useless tossers indefinitely! As far as I’m concerned EA and Konami have killed football gaming.

I like your specific gameplay innovations. I didn’t think of those. I don’t know how they would translate to the game, but it would be something new. Hopefully Konami does something next year.
I play some FIFA, but ultimately I find PES the better of the two when it comes to “fun factor”.

what does it matter i love pes2010 as do many other who will buy it on release,the games finished what we have is what we have and its special.I SUGGEST YOU SPEND YOUR TIME MORE WISELY RATHER THEN SPREADING YOUR MESSAGE OF DOOM that real fans dont care for.Fifa10 that good you have to spend your sundays trying to counter my opinion by quoting a comment i made on a demo and trying to convince yourself that its any good.

I THINK PES2010 IS THE BOMB THE BEST PES NOW IM GOING TO ENJOY IT.

might see you on here some time next year my work is done.

Sometimes its who you know and hundreds of people have pes2010 already.

I forgot to say pes2010 is exactly the same game as we cc 2008 on the ps2 but naturally with better graphics plus the 360 movement very deep and very technical.

Needless to say fifa10 got sold on ebay weeks ago and my copy of pes2010 hasnt been out of my ps3 since.Me and my mates have already racked up hours on pes2010.

Demo son and then i played the greatness that is pes2010 different game different dimension.

20 years ive been playing konami football games and being a diehard pes fan fifa10 was not even on my radar this year.All ive been doing for the last month is counting the days until pes2010s release.

I was so curious about 360 movement i downloaded the fifa10 demo off psn last nght and i have to say WOW!!!!!!!!!

From the perfectly tuned shooting to the smooth fluid passing ive not played a game as good as this since ISS on the n64 and could not put the controller down,everything just worked from the movement of my players to the sublime curling long pass right through to the through ball and the organic ai of my teamates which was a revelation.From goal line last ditch defending to heading my teamates never let me down and where always in a good position to recieve a pass or track back.

Having never played a fifa game but being a gaming vet i wacked it on to world class reconfirgured the controls so they where very pes like and i was away and everything i throw at fifa10 it delivered on with its ultra responsive player control and instant response times.

My only small niggle is the slowdown on the entrance scene and on replays but if ea can address this fifa10 will be perfect,yes the graphics arent great but when the game on the pitch and the gameplay is this tight and refined who cares….

Well done dave ruttler and ea you have produced a wonderful game this year that is so playable and enjoyable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Dopecoil
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sounds like you enjoyed fifa on your first play to me son