I’d like to start this week’s column by saying a big thank you to MatTheCat, christos21 and Nobby04 for their support given the abuse which was left in last week’s comments.
I’d like to address the point MagicaRoma made about not talking to individuals in my articles. Basically this site is first and foremost a community site. We exist to not only provide information on the game, but to try to create a healthy environment for debates about issues with PES that we may have.
I like to interact with you guys, as it makes these articles more personal for many of you, rather than me just discussing a topic, and ignoring what you guys have to say about issues. The only restriction we place on the site is that people pay respect to everyone when on this site. It’s a small ask, but clearly beyond the grasp of the many people that have got themselves banned from the site.
The trouble for me is that some of these inconsiderate people actually have a good point underneath their ill-mannered ways. So I’m left with the dilemma of either trashing their comments for the abuse posted, or leaving it as they do have a good point. More often than not, I tend to leave the comments on the site against my better judgement, but this seems to come back to haunt me more often than not. So from now on, any abuse in a comment, no matter how valid the comment, and it will be deleted and I won’t address it. But I know this will lead to a backlash regardless, but we’ll see how it goes. The bottom line is that you guys make this site what it is. If we don’t get interaction and participation in what we have to say, then there’s little point in me writing for the site, in my opinion.
Anyway, I have to say that I’ve not seen as many comments and complaints about the online play as I expected. In past years, we’ve been inundated with lots of comments by people moaning about the online game, but at the moment that seems to be relatively low. So if there are more people who are not having a good time online, please do leave comments for me.
Now that people have had enough time to grow accustomed to PES2010, we will be approaching a period soon where we can provide Konami with feedback and improvement suggestions for next year. I expect to start the collation period fairly soon, so if you are interested in participating, then I’d suggest you guys start to analyse the key areas that you want to see improved in PES.
I’d also like to hear this week where you think PES should be in 5 years time. Do you have definite views on where you think the direction of PES should be? It has been on it’s current course for over 15 years now, and I think the format is definitely stale and in need of reinvigoration.
So where do you think PES should go? Should the game delve into management modes more, or concentrate on individual player abilities?
Or do you have other ideas of where the game should be? How many people liked the new Master League format?
Most people these days can pick up PES or FIFA and find they acclimatise to the control systems in relatively short time spans. It’s a very familiar format, and hasn’t seen much in the way of change over the years. If you could redesign the control system, what would you do?
I’m looking for ideas for redesigning the whole control system using the PS3/360 controllers. Let’s see what sort of ideas you guys can come up with for how to control play. For example, what if PES ditched the d pad control system altogether – how many people would be outraged at this?
I know there are a lot of players who still prefer the old school dpad for control – would they be willing to give it up, and learn to use the analogue sticks? Would this be a problem for people?
Finally, there are still a couple more weeks left of my PES2010 PS2 competition left, and I’ve only had a handful of entrants, so if you are thinking of going for it, then please hurry! The chances of winning one of the three available copies is very high, so get in there.
Thanks for reading
Dougiedonut
(dougiedonut@pesgaming.com)
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@ Dopecoil, good points in there…
I agree that EA have some improvements to make, such as extra cutschenes and improved grpahics – imagine PES’ faces/graphics with the slick animations of FIFA….
Also, the ‘floaty’ feel needs to go, with more ‘weight’ and ‘feel’ added to the shooting etc.
As for my comparison with the SPL/Rangers&Celtic, the state of PES now in terms of fan base is the same as that of Rangers in the champions league. Simply came up against better oppositon, couldnt cope, and got thimped as a result.
RIP PES, was good while it lasted, but last no ,ore will PES
Well, the most ovious thing about PES10 is that it’s hard not to like or try to like such a good looking game. But graphics aside, the game is very outdated, as is FIFA10.
To put it shortly, I’d like Konami to completely forget about 10 vs 10, BAL mode, licenses, etc. As in my opinion, it’s very superficial and adds little to nothing relevant to the overall experience/package.
The game haves to move on from the 10 Minute Formula -pass and tap R2- that it has used for years.
I don’t know if Konami have watched Football games in Fast-Forward… if they haven’t, they should; as it is the ideal way to fragment all the different aspects involved.
How and why the tempo changes throughout the game, number of plays throughout the game, etc.
It’s also the best way to see how great players differentiate from each other; how they play, how they run off-the-ball, what they can and cannot do -and- why they can or cannot do whatever, etc, etc.
I feel like Konami and EA both ignore the tactical aspect of the game, as for example, we don’t have nearly enough Stats or Attributes for Tactical Ability. Defensive Work-Rate and Offensive Work-Rate, are some of the basic “tactical attributes” that are disregarded.
The game remains way too similar to PES5, PES6, and PES09. Animations, stats, off-the-ball play; all the -relevant- things remain more or less identical.
I would like to experience something new, and not just an update, and to do that, it would be absolutely necessary to move on from the 10 Minute Formula.
They need to enrich the experience, add enough layers of substance to make the game feel like a significantly new experience.
A new “on the fly” concept for the off-the-ball movement, which would force us into making split-second decisions that will affect the outcome differently in each play; giving way to a more realistic and organic gameplay, etc, etc.
Such an “organic” and inteligent concept would be too much for 10 Minute Gameplay, and so it would be neccesary to update on the old/current approach; so that the new standard would be 20 minute games, or in other words 10 minutes per half games.
I could go on and on, but why waste my time on something that I know Konami will simply ignore or conveniently say it’s “impossible” with the current hardware, etc, etc.
PES10 has added a few nice touches, but bottom line is that the similarities with past versions are quite offensive, to put it mildly.
i read loads of comments and for those who have left pes for fifa…shame on you!! fifa is garbage its so limited players dont move real enough and the ball physics are from the 90s.i play on pes on the 360 with the green controller use d pad for close controll then stick for speed moves most people dont do this it takes the game to a new level.and how many use the right stick?? thats adds so much. most of u guys aint in depth enough in the brain to understand. yeah pes has faults but it always has! fifa has improved but its all gimmicks with no n depth gameplay
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