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Individuality and Full Control the key as PES 2013 moves the goalposts
Konami Digital Entertainment will offer football fans an unprecedented level of control, when its PES 2013 title returns to the field this Autumn.
As befits a game endorsed by Cristiano Ronaldo – a player who embodies the skill and grace of top level football – PES 2013 sees the series returning to its roots, with the emphasis on the individual skills of the world’s best players, and giving the player the total freedom to play any style of ball, which includes for the first time full control over shots.. This follows further consultation with both football and PES fans alike, and the result is the most faithful recreation of modern day football to date, with players modeled to match the running motions, abilities and playing styles, and the flicks and turns of their real-life counterparts.
Three key elements form the basis of PES 2013’s innovations, with all new additions falling within the fields of PES FullControl, Player ID, and ProActive AI.
PES FullControl (PES FC): Never before has a football game offered such a level of control over the way it is played:
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Total Freedom of Control: Pro Evolution Soccer introduced the concept of freedom of movement, the new ‘PES FC’ in PES 2013 goes further with total freedom over ball control.
• Dynamic First Touch: PES 2013 introduces subtle ways to receive the ball, from traps, gently lifting it past an attacker to run on to or a variety of other moves. First touch is everything and players can trap the ball using the R2 button, killing the speed of a well-hit pass and bringing it instantly under control, or using the momentum of the pass to turn a defender.
• Full Manual Shooting and Full Manual Passing: PES 2013 offers fully manual passi
ng and for the first time ever manual shooting, allowing users to determine the height and power of each. Long low passes can be sent skimming across the pitch, while shooting the user has total control over where the shot is placed. Skill and precision are needed to master these, but passes can be made into open areas, allowing lone strikers to thrive, while offering an unrivalled variety in ways to score.
• Dribbling: The speed with which a player moves with the ball has been slowed in line with real matches, but using R2 allows players to add various styles to their close control. Players can vary the speed of their dribbling, and cushion the ball as they move freely within a 360-degree circle. The new system allows players to knock a ball past a player and collect it, nutmeg them, or hold up play by shielding the ball as team mates find space and make runs.
• Full Manual One-Two: Active one-two passes can be made, with the second player being moved in any direction), facilitating various tactical movements.
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Response Defending: Countering the attacking options the new dribbling system offers, is a beautifully-balanced defence system. Players can use R2 and X to slow an attack, with a double-tap of the X button prompting a perfectly-timed challenge. Full 360-degree control means that players can check runs and steal the ball from a parallel position, while the individuality element will see world renowned defenders using aerial dominance of physicality to win the ball.
• Goalkeepers: Even the game’s ‘keepers benefit from more control, while their distribution is more precise thanks to the addition of a power gauge when they throw the ball, creating opportunities for new, quicker counter attacks.
Player ID: Player ID focuses on the individual elements and movements that each player boasts:
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Player Individuality: The very best players in PES 2013 will be instantly recognisable via incredible likeness and signature attributes, skills and tricks that bring them to life. The way they run, turn, trap and move the ball, shape to shoot and even celebrate will be noticeably different during play..
• Individuality to Goalkeepers: The individuality of movement has also been extended to between the posts. Goal keeping has been totally invigorated via new animations and play styles. New varieties of saves and reactions have been added to ensure the game’s ‘keepers are in line with the efforts of real shot stoppers. This level of realism also extends to the game’s top-rated goal keepers, with their moves to close attacks down, fling themselves to tip a shot past the post, and in-goal acrobatics benefiting from all new animations and AI.
ProActive AI: ProActive AI unites the control and realism, with players that will respond and find space as befits those at the top of their game:
• Balance of Play: The development team has worked closely with the PES fan base to eradicate any illogical elements to the way players move and run in PES 2013, with the ‘ProActive AI’ system enhancing the speed and balance resulting in a more realistic game experience.
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• Tactical Precision: The balance of play has also been enhanced in the play between defences and the front line, with greater organisation as the teams track back or pelt forward, setting a harder to beat defensive line, teams adjusting faster to ball gain or loss, allowing for quicker counters.
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Enhanced Goalkeepers: Improvements to the goal keepers was voted the key advancement football fans wanted to see in PES 2013, and the team has worked hard with real keepers to ensure the AI decision process has been vastly improved. Keepers now espond with better reactions, clear their lines more effectively and push the ball savely out of play rather than into dangerous areas.
PES 2013 will also boast better connectivity and atmosphere. The popular myPES application will extend the connectivity and communication between Facebook-using PES fans, while the game’s audio effects are being tied closer to the on-field action to provide the kind of buzz seen at top-tier matches, with crowds growing in excitement as their team starts to exert pressure.
“This is an exciting time to be part of the PES community, and PES 2013 marks a new level of playability with the return to our key ethos of utter control and freedom,” commented Jon Murphy, European PES Team Leader. “. Football is all about making magic happen with skill and precision, and PES 2013 truly encapsulates this. Fresh faces within the development team and some very exciting ideas will breathe new life into the PES series, and we look forward to showing what we can do in the coming months.”
Release Date: Autumn 2012
Formats: PlayStation®3, Xbox 360®, Windows PC, PlayStation®2, PSP® (PlayStation®Portable), Nintendo 3DS™, Wii™
Studio: PES Productions
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WOWWW!!!!!!
Seems like some new physics engine is used.
That is very encouraging indeed as all sports games are based on the physicality of the players on the field.
So with this newfound emphasis on physics and the already established A.I. we could have a great contenter for fifa13.
I personally play fifa12 more as it is more advanced in every aspect.
If pes13 reaches fifa in technological achivement then i am sure PES will be again NUMBER 1.
Im excited for thisgame to drop and get to work on it..
I liked PES2012 and its obvious these additions will enhance the game..
however im not sure how these people will take the info:
Those who prefer PES2011 over PES2012?
Those who have’nt been happy with PES for a few years?
Those who prefer to play FIFA?
I think the inforamation sounds great.. some people with negative views say things like year we heard it all before.. they dont listen to us etc hate etc troll etc moan..
I personally think statements like that are lazy..
Konami deserve props today because they didnt just write down 10 bullet points of improvements.. they explained what issues people had in those areas and then they detailed how they made the required changes.
The effort alone should be commended.. ok we will see if the improvements work when the games out but i think good times are on the horison for those of us that play PES2012 and enjoy it..
I know there will be a batch of PES2012 players who will continue to play PES2012 once PES2013 comes out just like there are a few who still play PES2011 but thats not a bad thing because it means the game of your choice ticked more boxes than the other game..
I just hope PES2013 can appeal to all the little PES groups and bring it all together.
whatever , let me see the actual gameplay, and i’ll make my own judgement , history always tells us , pes know]s best to tease its consumers with trailers , and details only to be severly lacking in the actual gameplay.
I Welcome with open heart PES 2013.
Balanced gameplay (sure this will answer scripting), Individuality (Oh now I will feel like I am Ronaldo), Improved goalkeeper (less stupid mistakes), ProActive AI (bring it on), … What more can we ask? The only thing I can ask before playing it is to be able to change CLUB in MASTER LEAGUE, we have been waiting this for YEARS!
I can’t wait to buy this awesome game, Well done Konami, WELL DONE
Na na na na eh eh eh Goodbye FIFA.
Dynamic first touch and the emphasis on total control sounds promising…
once again i agree with Dave O
wow cant wait,
You can change club in master league
Just start a new league and select the club of your choice..
I still dont know the facination with changing clubs.. the Master League gets messy after a few years because all the top players move around to random teams..
If you were to move to a new team it would be full of randoms and wwould be odd..
However I understand many people ask for it so it wouldnt hurt to give people the choice or they can just play Football/ Championship manager lol
Are they using new engine or this is upgraded one from lat year?
Their not boasting a new engine,
they are adding/ building on PES2012 fixing issues that people complained about..
Does anyone know when or if a PES game will be made specifically for PS Vita?
We need ML to be upgraded in every single way. It gets boring after a few seasons and Online Mode needs to be lag free for gods sake!!! ML is why most people play PES. People (I´m part of that) spend centuries editing to have ML the closest to real-live environment. Interviews, commentaries, fans support, more celebration on winning trophies, on transfer end having a last minute bid, stuff like that. ML is more than playing just games is the atmosphere what makes it magical.
I dont have lag online
I just dont like playing against exploiters
im sorry but Konami won’t get me this year. it’s always the same stuff, “Improved AI and improved keepers” and it’s always a let down. this so called trailer? didn’t get me excited i know where konami is going this year and thanks but no thanks. i don’t think the king will ever return.
Come on now, lets not be Naive.
@princep is spot on!!
Dont feed into it, yes it sounds good but wait until you play it then judge it.
I like the part;
“consultation with Pes fans alike” & “working closely with Pes fan base” BS!!
WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE???
How is Pes2013 going to eradicate the BARCA BOYS and introduce smaller teams ? I would like to know
I feel like I read the same spiel last year and the year before….
P.S . I agree with Dave O….
take a look at the first clip and its from about 10.30 mins onwards it gets really good!!!! How PES 13 should be moulded on!!
its interesting that no one has highlighted the current PES collision engine.
I know FIFA have really (over)sold this issue, but players making contact with one another is very wooden on PES 2012. Something that needs looking at!
Animations still ****. Bizarre running by ronaldo.
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its clear nothing konami put out there would have pleased a few of you
can you please state what you would have liked to see in the announcement or trailer
if you feel nothing can be done or this series is not for you then I suggest to stop wasting your time and move on
simples
It looks fairly positive and intriguing, it goes without saying that Konami has improved on their communication, hopefully we will see better improvements this year as PES12 was very disappointing for me.
To sum up my feelings, I think PES12 and FIFA12 are very disappointing video games, but my enthusiasm for the football sim genre is such, that I’m still capable of enjoying disappointing efforts. I’m not expecting a completely new game, however, I do think that it is realistic to expect a more perceivable improvement than what PES12 had to offer.
For instance, the “Link Feints” system, albeit dated, does have a lot of potential, it’s mostly a matter of Konami having the courage of changing the control scheme, making better use of the left analog stick, and implementing all the dribbling animations that they do have.
I mean, PES12
for Konami to greatly improve their game, the “Link Feints” system, albeit very dated, does have a lot of potential, and I feel Konami
Furthermore, I’d like to comment on a few comments that I found particularly interesting….
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Konami: “Players can vary the speed of their dribbling, and cushion the ball as they move freely within a 360-degree circle.”
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PES12′s and FIFA12′s main flaw: the non-existence of movement within the space….
The non-existence of movement within space…. What do I mean by that? Simple. If you draw a circle on the floor, and you position yourself within the mentioned circle, and then you move within the mentioned circle: that’s what I mean by “movement within the space”, which is my abbreviation for “movement within the space that you occupy” as opposed to movement through space.
Movement within the space is impossible in both PES12 and FIFA12, because both are based on a well established D-Pad system, and the problem with the D-Pad system, is that it cannot comprehend nor determine the dimension of distance within a given direction….
What do I mean by “the dimension of distance within a given direction”?
Simple. You can direct the left analog stick (a) slightly towards the north or (b) as far towards the north as it can go: thus, there’s a range of movement within just one direction, which is something that the D-Pad does not and cannot offer. The D-Pad can only determine (a) timing and (b) direction, but it cannot determine (c) distance within the direction.
The clear limitation of adapting the usage of the analog sticks, so that it clicks in with a D-Pad based foundation, is the fact that the analog sticks do not offer a lot of depth in terms of directions: I mean, you really cannot implement that many animations into the range of movement direction-wise that the analog sticks have to offer, there are only eight well defined directions in which you can implement dribbling animations, the so-called “360 degree” analog sticks do not really offer a lot of depth where direction is concerned, certainly not something I’d describe as “360 degree” movement; however, in terms of distance within one of the eight directions, the analog sticks do offer a great deal of depth, because you could implement at the very least 6 different animations into each direction, which would amount to a total of 48 dribbling animations that can be implemented into just one analog stick, which could easily be maximized to a total of 192 dribbling animations.
The mentioned fact is most unfortunate, because the analog sticks are not used properly, instead of making good use of the range of movement within each of the well defined directions, the PES12 (and FIFA12) system only makes use of the range of movement direction-wise, meaning that only a fraction of what the analog stick can really offer is used…. In other words, with the PES12 (and FIFA12) system, it is only possible to implement about 16 dribbling animations more or less, which looks very dated when you consider the fact that with a system that makes proper use of the analog stick, you could easily implement over 192 dribbling animations.
The feature (which was first used in PES11) that PES12 offers in an effort to increase the number of dribbling animations is the “Link Feints” system, the “Link Feints” system is attached to the right analog stick, but unfortunately the design of the system is extremely flawed due to numerous reasons, the main reason being the fact that the right analog stick is used like the D-Pad button, meaning that directing the right analog stick slightly towards the north or dramatically towards the north will produce the same exact dribbling animation, thus greatly reducing the number of dribbling animations that can be used on the pitch. At the end of the day, PES12′s “Link Feints” system is closer to RPG than it is to movement within the space, not only does it not use the range of movement within each of the well defined directions, but only four directions (out of eight well defined directions) can be used, with each direction offering the same exact series of predetermined “link feints” — it is no surprise that after two games, with only four “link feints” variations and after twenty minutes of play, that the four “link feints” variations get old, giving the game a repetitive, robotic, and predictable feel.
The closest thing to “movement within the space” that PES12 offers, is the “Link Feints” system, and that’s not saying much. Of course, the main reason why it is nearly impossible to make the ball feel like an independent entity, is because the only buttons that can handle that level of freedom -the left and right analog sticks- are not used properly.
Furthermore, I want to make it abundantly clear that FIFA12 does not have movement within the space…. When promoting the concept of movement within space, some people have countered my argument by arguing that FIFA12′s right analog stick trick gimmick is the same thing as movement within the space: the truth is, like PES12′s “Link Feints” system, FIFA12′s system is not the same thing as movement within the space, FIFA12′s system is more sophisticated than PES12′s “Link Feints” system in that it offers more than just four variations, but it ultimately suffers from the same deficiency in that it feels repetitive and predictable after a few minutes, because it offers identical copies of the same trick, it does not actually offers a non-repetitive “organic” manual dribbling system, because (a) timing and (b) direction are both attached to the same button, and when both timing and direction are attached to the same button -in this case, the right analog stick- it is impossible to implement movement within the space into the game….
Why is it impossible to implement “movement within the space” into the game if the right analog stick determines both the direction and the timing of dribbling?
Due to the fact that one button -in this case, the right analog stick- cannot determine (a) timing and (b) direction and at the same time (c) distance within the given direction; the direction and the distance within the direction must be attached to the same button, but the timing must be attached to a non-directional button: bottom line, if timing and direction are attached to the same directional button, then it’s not movement within the space, it’s just a predetermined (read: scripted) dribbling animation, which will play out exactly the same irrespective of (read: distance within the direction) how slightly or how dramatically you direct the right analog stick towards the north, at the end of the day, an endless repetition of the one dribbling animation that is attached to that one direction, which is then enhanced by the illusion of variety when in fact it’s the same exact identical copy-paste of the one dribbling animation that is implemented into that one direction or movement.
Just in case you still don’t quite fully get why it is impossible for FIFA12 to offer movement within the space…. The point is simple, if you direct the left analog stick without the assistance of any other button, that’s enough for the player to move (albeit slowly) across the length or width of the pitch: this fact alone, makes it impossible to implement movement within the space.
The mentioned fact means that you need to use the right analog stick in order to perform advanced dribbling moves, and the mentioned necessity means that you cannot use a non-directional button in order to actually make proper use of the right analog stick. The only possible way that movement within the space could be implemented into the right analog stick, is if the L1 button serves as the timing button, which would then mean that the L2 button would need to cover the original function of the L1 button.
Though ideally, the best system in my mind would be to merge passing, shooting, and dribbling, into the same control scheme, meaning that the four main buttons that are currently used for passing and shooting would also work as dribbling buttons. That way the (x) button could be used for body positioning, the (o) button could be used for precision touches, the (triangle) button could be used for changing the direction of movement through space without the necessity of moving through space, and the (square) button could be used for trademark dribbles.
By doing that, the precision touch would be attached to the (o) button, this means that the entire capacity of movement of the left analog stick can be used for that one function, the eight well defined directions and the movement within each of the well defined directions, can be used specifically to implement precision touches, which amounts to a possible total of 192 variations of the precision touch, 192 variations within each direction of movement…..
In other words: the range of movement within each of the well defined directions (read: linear movement, not circular), north, north-east, north-west, south, south-east, south-west, west, east, would serve as space to implement precision touches which would not affect the direction of movement through space.
That means that you could be running towards the north, which would mean that the direction of movement through space is towards the north, yet at the same time, the direction of the precision touch (read: movement within space) could be towards the south, which ultimately means that the directions in which the ball can be touched whilst still running towards the same direction
within just one direction, increases greatly.
whereas, at the same time, the direction of the precision touch could be
could be towards the north, whereas the precision touch
And since direction of movement itself would be attached to the (triangle) button, it would be impossible for the left analog stick to affect the direction of movement without
four main buttons that are currently used for passing and shooting. That way each of the four buttons can be used to cover specific dribbling functions
point of “not making any use of the distance within the direction” — the point is, if you attach timing to a non-directional button such as the L1 button, and you then attach direction to a directional button such as the left analog stick, then it is possible to direct the left analog stick without the assistance of the L1 button,
+ distance within the direction (read: variety of dribbling animations within just one direction) into the same directional button, then, as a result, it is possible to direct the left or right analog stick slightly towards the north + then press the non-directional L1 button,
At the end of the day, with video games like PES12 and FIFA12, it is practically impossible to move within the space that the player occupies, because merely directing the left analog stick without the assistance of any other button, will be enough for the player to move (albeit slowly) across the length or width of the pitch.
This is why video games like PES12 and FIFA12 feel stale whenever you are not running with the ball, because whenever you are not running with the ball, the computer takes over the game, and the “balance” stat determines if Drogba can hold the ball without the necessity of running: the stationary game is essentially an RPG game, because you certainly have no control over how the player shields the ball when stationary, in fact, in order to shield the ball when stationary, you must release all the directional buttons + press and hold the non-directional L1 button, which makes it clear beyond any doubt, that the computer takes complete control over the stationary game.
One obstacle that might be playing a part in the non-existence of movement within the space, is that if movement within the space was implemented, it would make it impossible for D-Pad users to play the game, thus potentially alienating a percentage of their fan base.
Though, of course, on the other hand, it is important to acknowledge the fact that the main reason why many of the hardcore PS2-PES fans are now playing FIFA, is because the FIFA franchise distanced itself from the D-Pad system, by offering a new passing system that felt less “on-rails” than the D-Pad based passing system that Konami used with video games like PES08, PES09, and PES10.
So considering the hard evidence, if Konami continue building on the same D-Pad based system, Konami will loose more fans with each passing year…. and the reason is obvious: the old D-Pad system is not hardcore anymore, therefore, if you continue using the same old D-Pad based system, you will loose more and more of your hardcore fans.
On the other hand, EA Sports does not need to worry about hardcore fans, because they already have the casual gamers in their pockets, so winning the hardcore fans is an extra for them, but not something they depend on.
So again, considering the hard evidence, it is clear that Konami need to do more in order to once again establish a firm grip over the hardcore market, because they clearly are not doing enough to distance themselves from their direct competitor. This is where I think “movement within the space” will make the difference, because as soon as one of the big two franchises implements movement within the space into their game, then the hardcore fans will follow the more serious offering.
Therefore I think it is important for Konami to acknowledge the fact that they need to do more in order to win the hardcore market, Konami needs to stop using the little time that they have every year with features such as 11 vs 11 and BAL mode, which are cool additions, yet at the end of the day, casual additions which will not attract the attention of most hardcore fans; hardcore fans do not really care about 11 vs 11 nor about the BAL mode, hardcore fans want solid gameplay and solid online play, you get those two right, you win the hardcore market…. However, if Konami uses the little time that they do have every year, with little features such as 11 vs 11 and BAL mode, then Konami is playing to EA Sports strengths, something which will only produce negative results for Konami’s franchise.
Movement within the space is the future of football simulation, I think Konami would be doing themselves a favor if they are the first company to offer such level of freedom.
It looks fairly positive and intriguing, it goes without saying that Konami has improved on their communication, hopefully we will see better improvements this year as PES12 was very disappointing for me.
To sum up my feelings, I think PES12 and FIFA12 are very disappointing video games, but my enthusiasm for the football sim genre is such, that I’m still capable of enjoying disappointing efforts. I’m not expecting a completely new game, however, I do think that it is well within realistic to expect a more perceivable improvement than what PES12 had to offer.
For instance, the “Link Feints” system, albeit dated, does have a lot of potential, it’s mostly a matter of Konami having the courage of changing the control scheme, making better use of the left analog stick, and implementing all the dribbling animations that they do have.
I mean, PES12 does not have a lot of dribbling animations, but it certainly has more dribbling animations than the “Link Feints” system can handle…. The “Link Feints” system can only handle just 4 variations of dribbling moves, yet the game offers a total of 28 dribbling moves more or less: 28 dribbling moves is really not much, but certainly, a dribbling system that can only handle just 4 dribbling moves, is very limiting.
So improving on their dribbling system, and also improving on their defensive system, I think would be a massive improvement which would not require wholesale changes. Though of course, I do think that wholesale changes are greatly needed.
So anyways, that’s my two cents on the news so far: intriguing and interesting, but certainly not enough when you consider how easily Konami could drastically improve on PES12.
Hey Amateur, long time
Regarding moving within a space.. if they had more use of the analogue stick like you would see with 3rd person games…
meaning where you push the stick slightly to walk or push completly to run..
Is that what you mean or are you talking about potentially being able to side step in a situation.
for example you could be running with the ball on your right side of your body and without touching the ball you make a big dummy/fake to the right and now the ball is on your left side.. in the process making the coming defender move to your right falling for the fake.
This would give you the option to take the ball left into the clear path he was previously standing in..
Would this be something of a possibility in what you speak of or have I got it wrong?
As it stands they would rather have a pre set dummy/fake commands but if it could be done in real time and is easy control for the user then it could really mimic a new aspect of real life football where you truly adapt to the opositions positioning as it unfolds.
wat i want for pro evo 14 grand theft auto style off the pitch were u can get drunk shag girls crash ur car get hurt doin it if u act like a knob off the pitch ur not b good on it effects ur stats it should b on the become a legend mode to make it fresh and new cus lets face it its borein now match after match callin for the ball and they never pass it to u at the right time its so annoyin come on kuntnami set a new trend for football games more off the pitch even training b good if u dont train well ur stats reflect it. no kids play pro evo ive yet to see a kid play it so grand theft auto style become a legend mode would b perfect
I’m excited about it anyway. If nothing else, it shows they are listening to the PES community. Konami would not blatently point out all the flaws people have complained about, keepers, shooting etc and highlight them in a trailer, then come release day, have nothing changed. Konami know they need to be open about it.
I’m mostly excited about the slower paced gameplay being touted. I heard the game will be 30% slower, no speed merchants and more ways to put in a tackle. Shooting and keepers are top priority so don’t worry about that.
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