Now that Gamescom has provided a platform for PES 2013 – has it increased your excitement for the game? A very poor response to my recent poll isn’t helping to draw any level of conclusions. Either people aren’t really bothered by the coverage, or just haven’t bothered with the poll. If you haven’t bothered – please take the time to have a look.
I’ve been thinking about the balance between the casual and the hardcore market. Do you guys think one group is being favoured over the other? As a hardcore fan, for example, do you think that there are too many features which cater for the casual crowd to your detriment? Or if you’re more of a casual fan, do you think the game is still too hard to get into? My personal opinion is that we’re in an uncomfortable position between the two. Whilst there are options to adjust the assistance in the game, they’re not really helping.
As a hardcore fan, I don’t think the manual controls go far enough. Manual should mean 100% manual, but that just isn’t the case. I don’t have confidence in the manual system, and so will be cautious about adopting it fully. I’ve had to compromise on having a single assistance bar set to be comfortable with the game. Having full manual control is just frustrating as it still has assistance and second-guessing of where you want to pass. It can annoy the hell out of me.
To date we’ve not heard much in the way of details about MLO. Konami are keeping their cards very close to their chest about what they’re going to change in the mode.
Conspicuous by it’s absence in Gamescom coverage is the system in place to tackle cheating. Since Konami are showcasing their game now, in my opinion Gamescom was an excellent opportunity to appease the many of us fans who still fear for the mode. Combating online cheating in the game is going to be a major contributor to the continued success of the game. We’ve not had any responses about how it will be addressed this year, which has a little alarm bell going off in my head.
Player ID: If I’m not mistaken, this function encapsulates the ‘human’ factor of the chosen 50 players and incorporates them amongst many more less well-known players.
There’s plenty of evidence of this in the demo. Personally I’m not so sure the individuality of Player ID is effectively portrayed. Take for example the early footage we saw of Ibrahamovic score a goal with an outstretched leg delivering a deftly placed shot into the goal. I’ve seen the same animation in action too often with quite a few players.
Now I’m not suggesting that it’s his trademark, and no-one else should be capable of doing it -but it’s almost overused. If that makes sense?
The number of times I’ve seen collect the ball in their own half facing their own goal, and then instantly turn around and do the double touch thing before moving off.
There are a whole host of players doing this move, yet realistically only a handful would have the ability to dare to do such a high risk manoeuvre in a game. When you said shall we say – less than premium footballers doing it, then you have to ask questions.
I should say at this stage that I’ve switched to the PC version of the demo this year. In fact I’ve pretty much ditched console gaming for PC gaming after a 10 year gap.
For PES this has meant that I’ve suddenly discovered a wealth of edited material for the game. Within 24 hours of the demo’s release there were mods available to help tweak the game. A real Godsend for me was an editor which allowed me to switch off replays of my choice. Honestly – it had me beaming! I have always been very frustrated with the constant pressing of the Start button for most triggers. I’ve now only got replays on for goals, and I’m loving it. I’m able to edit the camera angles too, which helps to create more custom angles – and it’s fantastic. I’ve always favoured the old overhead camera angles, and so having isometric camera angles from a distance is great for me.
I’ve been able to unlock around 100 teams from the game in Match mode, and even apply some new HD turf to the pitches. I am really looking forward to the full game and having the ability to go nuts with patches to enhance the game. There is a very brilliant active modding community for PES, and I think they do an unbelievable job. Gone are the days of limited patching on the PS3!
With both a second demo imminent (according to Jon Murphy) and with a rumoured earlier release date in September, these are exciting times.
Thanks for reading.
Dougiedonut
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Interesting read as always Dougie. First off might I suggest moving the polls further up the side of the page to where the fantasy football link is as normally when I come to the front page I look & see if there is a new article & if there isnt I go straight to the forum, never scrolling far enough down to see any new polls.
Now onto the points about the game starting with Player ID, its something I’ve seen as a bit of hype about something that to a lesser extent has always been in the game such as unique running styles or free kick styles. I think it has not been fully implemented in the code we currently have in the demo & it may be more evident once we get the 2nd demo or the finished game. The uniqueness of individual players is something which has always made PES feel more realistic to me than FIFA, which leads on nicely to manual passing.
In my opinion I dont want fully manual passing as it dilutes that uniqeness of individual players if Terry can pass as accurately as Scholes which is what would happen if fully manuall passing was implemented. It would mean passing stats might as well be removed as they would be irrelevant, I think the current system while not perfect is a better option than full manual. I think if a player has 99 for pass accuracy then 99% of the time the pass should go exactly where you want it to, with 1% assistance kicking in to put it slightly off course.
If we get full manual passing then it will be like the new fully manual shooting where Joe Hart is just as likely to hit the ball into the top corner as Aguero once you have mastered the controls which as we all know is unrealistic.
As for catering to new players against the hardcore they should forget the casual players or those that dont want to learn how to play the game as these people will most likely still just end up playing FIFA anyway. In my opinion all the assistance settings should be removed save for the game speed settings, by default & for all users the assistance should be off for everyone with the pass settings set to 0 or 1 for everyone. This would stop alot of the moaning online when someone playing with 0 assistance gets paired with someone on full assistance.
Sorry for the long rambling post, just my 2p worth :)
Some say FIFA copied PES.
Have you played EASPORTS’s UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE 2005 or FIFA 2005?
It introduced “manual passing” using the LT as a modifier AND “of ball control”.
These games were released in 2004!
As for PES 2013 demo.
It’s gameplay does nothing new in reality.
It doesn’t change the feeling that PES is a very rigid game.
And it’s starting to feel really old too.
Seeing the same problems not addressed as the years go by, is really frustrating.
And it’s the first time for me that a pes demo doesn’t make last year’s game obsolete.
I now know why Jon Murphy came out all of sudden this year stating and blaming EA about licenses…..Konami have announced their official licensed teams and this year we are only getting one English Premier club (Man U) when we normally get two. Now it may mean nothing to many considering the mods you can get to change shirts to look official but it still comes across like an omission particularly if you were hoping that they may eventually build up more EPL teams yearly.
On the plus side what may please is they have 150 sides Licensed with all the teams of Italian and Spanish leagues plus 17 more National teams
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-08-20-pes-2013-has-150-licensed-teams-including-all-the-teams-in-spanish-and-italian-top-divisions
do you guys play aek athens or vaslui.. i m a big premier league fan and there ‘s only manu to play with.. wtf
you mentioned the possibility to edit the teams. but what about the genuine premier league shirtt numbers? badges on shorts? stadiums which you can’t create as they are in reality? this really annoys me after all these years
anyone knows about licenses edit mode or extra leagues?
@ Zach Nathaniel
Apart from that link in my last post which talks about PES’s licensed teams in the game I’ve heard very little about other areas like the edit mode…I’m sure they will be releasing more info soon though hopefully with more news on the ML and BAL aswell
@ hiroshi11
Hey I’m with you mate I’m a fan of the English Premier League aswell and it is very frustrating. I was convinced that they would be getting more teams from the EPL every year eventually but this is a step backwards. And in fairness the people who work on the mods do terrific jobs, you can’t fault them yet for me and maybe its just a personal thing with me, but having the fully licensed team is just so much better
@paul2478 – I’m with you on the position of the polls. I didn’t even know there was one on the front page until you mentioned it was at the bottom. No wonder nobody voted.
@Lucifer666 – I disagree about the licensing of the EPL. I’m already playing PES 2012 with all the new season’s EPL and Championship teams with the correct squads, kits, badges etc. Even if PES had been fully licensed when the game came out, Konami wouldn’t be updating things this late in the day with a new PES just around the corner.
@lucifer666
mate don’t take me wrong.. without the forum on this site i wouldn’t even play pes.. the guys who make kits squads emblems and so on do a wonderful job.. i remeber on pes 2010 i had to do it all on my own and i spent almost 100 hours on the editor and the result was still ****..like i said in earlier posts the editor is a big help but they need to imrpove it so that you can add badges on shorts on socks, sponsors on the back of the kits. put logos on sleeves an so on
The reason Konami can’t get the bigger EPL teams licensed is because most clubs have signed contracts with EA. I think Konami should concentrate on buying in smaller EPL teams, that’s a start don’t you think?
Brazilian League Confirmed!
http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/brazilian-league-confirmed-neymar-returns/
@ hiroshi11
Yep I hear you and agree…I know exactly what you mean as well about being long times in an Edit mode I used to spend far too much of my time doing that stuff too
@ dennisBergkamp10
hmmm Yeah it would be better than just one I suppose not that I didn’t think Tottenham Hotspur was that massive of a team to get in previous years anyway (no offense to any Spurs fans out there :) ) particularly when you think of the Liverpool and Man U or Arsenal and Chelsea combinations of the past
When you think of it this is the first year since they have started putting in any EPL licensed teams into PES that we are not getting two EPL teams, In a way it was clever preemptive damage control by Jon Murphy who probably had a suspicion that this would not go down well with certain fans and decided to focus on the overall problem clearly pointing a finger at EA over licenses so any annoyance by fans will be met with a quick response of “Blame EA” . Whether they are to blame or not though still doesn’t change the fact that it is a reduction….yet again another new edition of PES that gives but annoyingly takes away too
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