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Anti Fair play!

oziz14

Registered User
I am really fed up playing with dirty players who tackle from behind when I am on my way to score a crucial goal late in the game!!

I wish Konami can add an anti-fair play rating after games

Is anyone else suffering from this?
 

sniper09

Registered User
I've been the recipient and the perpetrator of this myself. It's risky because it usually ends up being a red card. If someone's one on one in the last minute it's worth the risk.

I also dived in a match earlier but got booked for it.
 

lyc10

Registered User
i think its okay if its last minute and your opponent takes you down from behind, as long as they are not doing it from kick off. however i really hate those bastards that abuse their speed merchants right off the bat.
 

oziz14

Registered User
i think its okay if its last minute and your opponent takes you down from behind, as long as they are not doing it from kick off. however i really hate those bastards that abuse their speed merchants right off the bat.

No sir its not okay by any means!!..this is called dirty play...you would be fuming if it happened to you, so it can't be okay when you do it;)

Also I think tackling from behind in the last minute is meaner than doing it from the start because you are killing your opponent's chances for good, but when you do it from the start, you'll probably lose!
 

Boca Junior

Registered User
No sir its not okay by any means!!..this is called dirty play...you would be fuming if it happened to you, so it can't be okay when you do it;)

Also I think tackling from behind in the last minute is meaner than doing it from the start because you are killing your opponent's chances for good, but when you do it from the start, you'll probably lose!

A tackle from behinde means a red card.
its part of the game.
Lets say, its the campions league final and your club is leading 1-0 against barcalona and it the last minute and messi breaks true. and one of your defenders takes him down with a tackle from behinde.
And gives your club the champions league with that. Who cares about fair plaY then. not me. i say well done boy. thank you
 

Griciu

Registered User
oziz, you should make so that your chances don't hang on to the last moments of the match. Take a good advantage during the game so you don't have to push in the end as much. There comes a time when a tackle has to be done, that's part of football. Sometimes it has to be done.

That comes from a guy that does not even use tackling during the game.
 

oziz14

Registered User
A tackle from behinde means a red card.
its part of the game.
Lets say, its the campions league final and your club is leading 1-0 against barcalona and it the last minute and messi breaks true. and one of your defenders takes him down with a tackle from behinde.
And gives your club the champions league with that. Who cares about fair plaY then. not me. i say well done boy. thank you

Well then Luis Suarez was a good boy when he denied Ghana from scoring with his hand in the World Cup...I'm afraid I don't agree with you:unsure:
 

Boca Junior

Registered User
Well then Luis Suarez was a good boy when he denied Ghana from scoring with his hand in the World Cup...I'm afraid I don't agree with you:unsure:

yes he was. what would you do? you would let the bal go in cause its fair play? and hey he couldnt play in the semi final while he was one of the star player in that team. With or without suarez is a big difference.
And when the choice is winning or fair play ill go for winning. and suarez will totale agree with me

peace
 

lyc10

Registered User
No sir its not okay by any means!!..this is called dirty play...you would be fuming if it happened to you, so it can't be okay when you do it;)

Also I think tackling from behind in the last minute is meaner than doing it from the start because you are killing your opponent's chances for good, but when you do it from the start, you'll probably lose!

so lets say if he does it the first minute to deny you a goal scoring chance. Is that dirty play then? From your reply, I'm guessing no. Because he'll get a red card and then you'll probably win due to the 1 man advantage. Given that, why is it dirty play because it's last minute Only thing that is different from this scenario is; you probably won't win.
So not letting you win is dirty play?For me dirty play is what the bastards did last year, tackling from behind, knowing that the referee is retarded and won't give a red card,but knowing that it will injure your player.

Well then Luis Suarez was a good boy when he denied Ghana from scoring with his hand in the World Cup...I'm afraid I don't agree with you:unsure:

Seriously this Suarez handball debate gets so old. It's actually very simple.
He blocked the ball from going into his own net with his hands> He got a red card for it> Ghana got a penalty
If Gyan had scored, there would be no debate. There is nothing wrong with the entire decision, referee's or Suarez's. Just because it is in the extra time of a world cup quarter finals does not change the rules. Yeah it might hurt for Ghana, but who do they have to blame? Gyan
 

orlandoSPUR

Registered User
ive got to agree with ozz its lame, and shows no class if you ask me. its happened a few times to me. i can understand why someone would do it, but at the end of the day its cheating
 

orlandoSPUR

Registered User
It's lame, but how is it cheating?

Stopping someone by foul means, it's not like they try to get into a position to make a fair tackle or a standing challenge it's straight through the back as I've got through the defensive line. It's cheating me out of a clear goal scoring opportunity.
 

lyc10

Registered User
Stopping someone by foul means, it's not like they try to get into a position to make a fair tackle or a standing challenge it's straight through the back as I've got through the defensive line. It's cheating me out of a clear goal scoring opportunity.
fouling and cheating is pretty different

from what i know, purposely fouling someone to stop a goal scoring opportunity are called tactical fouls, they usually result in a card, clear goal scoring opportunities usually result in red. I'm not saying I support this kind of behavior, but as long as the referees are getting the decision right, I don't see what everyone's complaining about
 

Boca Junior

Registered User
cheating in my opinion is useing something that isnt suppost to be there.
Like in this situation. referees dont faul tackles from behinde. ppl knoiw that and tackle you every time your in a scoring position. thats cheating. but tackle someone to stop them to score and get a red card is not cheating. im not really support it eighter but sometimes you know........ but thats me
 

orlandoSPUR

Registered User
fouling and cheating is pretty different

from what i know, purposely fouling someone to stop a goal scoring opportunity are called tactical fouls, they usually result in a card, clear goal scoring opportunities usually result in red. I'm not saying I support this kind of behavior, but as long as the referees are getting the decision right, I don't see what everyone's complaining about

its the time of the tackle, usually in the last few moments of the game, i'm either trying to equalize or about to win, and it happens. so the red card mean nothing as the game basically has not got the time to get another opportunity. you can call it a tactical foul but to me its cheating, the red card means nothing, sure if it happens where i can gain an advantage by being a man up for long periods of the game im not as annoyed.

Personally i wouldn't, but then again i rarely let players do 1 on 1's with my keeper online, by playing offsides with a high line, it seems to work a treat.

Edit**you know i think Oz has it right in his heading 'anti fair play' and the need for being able to give someone some negative rep. whats the point if you can only give positive rep...i suppose everyone would get it because people hate losing
 

lyc10

Registered User
its the time of the tackle, usually in the last few moments of the game, i'm either trying to equalize or about to win, and it happens. so the red card mean nothing as the game basically has not got the time to get another opportunity. you can call it a tactical foul but to me its cheating, the red card means nothing, sure if it happens where i can gain an advantage by being a man up for long periods of the game im not as annoyed.

Personally i wouldn't, but then again i rarely let players do 1 on 1's with my keeper online, by playing offsides with a high line, it seems to work a treat.

Edit**you know i think Oz has it right in his heading 'anti fair play' and the need for being able to give someone some negative rep. whats the point if you can only give positive rep...i suppose everyone would get it because people hate losing

tackles from behind to deny clear goal scoring opportunity at 30th minute > red card > you win > not cheating

tackles from behind to deny clear goal scoring opportunity at 90th minute > red card> you don't win > cheating

Same action, same result(red card) but one is cheating while the other is not?

about the neg rep, its very hard to conduct to be honest. I've only got like 50 fair plays in 200 games, I rarely even press slide, score cheesed goals or abuse speed merchants. So if there was an option for neg rep, I'm sure people will just be handing them out just because they're pissed that they got owned
 

abu97

Registered User
in real life if you slide tackled from the back the player will react like he's been killed and a fight will start and the red card cpuld cause a 3 or more match ban. also if they are one on one with the keeper, on the ps3 i press l1+r3 to change cursor to the goalkeeper then press r2+square+x to jockey and hold-up play. i know you're thinking this is diputs, it'll never work but in pes the attackers are stupid and they'll just turn around finding options. trust me it works most of the time. it is a long-winded process but it is worth i rather than crossing your fingers that your keeper will make a last minute casillas save
 

orlandoSPUR

Registered User
It's online fella so intentional by a human user. I don't get that issue playing the COM

I agree lyco about the neg rep that you would get it much more than fairplay. It's just a shame if the more mature level headed players cant vent frustration to how someone plays. I now generally just send a little text doubt my opponent is even in the game screen but makes me feel better haha
 

lyc10

Registered User
it would be nice if we had the option not to play a player ever again..played this wanker 3 times today, all he did was run down the line with ronaldo and messi and robben and aguero to spam crosses in. I could stop him most of the time but i let him past me twice and he scored on both occasions, bloody annoying.
 

markcross

Banned
it would be nice if we had the option not to play a player ever again..played this wanker 3 times today, all he did was run down the line with ronaldo and messi and robben and aguero to spam crosses in. I could stop him most of the time but i let him past me twice and he scored on both occasions, bloody annoying.

so ur saying u wer owned and didnt like it?
 
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