Ronaldo (Brazilian)

zzidane said:

Hey guys. Just give this face formula a try and see what you think. I think it's a massive improvement. Took your comments on board, mostly about the eyes just not looking right and after spending over an hour after work just trying to tweek and perfect it I feel kind of satisfied with it now. Got a feeling you guys might like this one. Feedback again though guys, and if you think it's shit just be honest lol.

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Thanks bro! I'll try it tonight and will report back on Monday! Thanks for all your hard work!

abu97 said:

wtffffff????/
You think ronaldo does more in a match than cr7.
If you watch and of cr7 games, you will see him in the 90th min running around chasing for the ball whilst ronaldo is just standind out of breath waiting for the ball - his stamina, mentality, form is really really low. Anyway everyone says ronaldo is their idol is because people hate c.ronaldo how he shows off and can beat everyone and you should know that.
Can ronaldo ping a long pass?No

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Fucking hilarious! Stop comparing gay7 to the Ronaldo of 06. We are talking about Ronaldo when he played for Inter and Barca.

Football has changed a lot since the 90's, it's now much more attacking minded and open...hence all the high scores these days. Back in the 90's it was much more defensive minded, especially the Serie A was known for it's brutal defense. Ronaldo dominated the best defensive systems in the Italian leagues...nobody could stop him.

Did you read that Maldini said Maradona and Ronaldo was the two best players he has faced? So in other words putting Ronaldo alongside Maradona? Has anyone said that about gay7? And yes, Maldini have played against Cristiano.

And to say all the other players hate Cristiano and that is why he is not their idol...is CHILDISH! Seriously.

How can you say cristiano is better one of the true legends of the game, if he is not even the best in his era?

calling c.ronaldo gay7 just proves you are biased. Anyway noone can say cr7 is their iol because he still plays football for both club and country and everyone hateshim os it's not his fault. If he had a better attitutude instead of solos where he can pass. CR7 is the complete football - watch tested to the limit. There is not one thing he lacks apart from defending techniques

abu97 said:

calling c.ronaldo gay7 just proves you are biased. Anyway noone can say cr7 is their iol because he still plays football for both club and country and everyone hateshim os it's not his fault. If he had a better attitutude instead of solos where he can pass. CR7 is the complete football - watch tested to the limit. There is not one thing he lacks apart from defending techniques

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The fact that you say nobody calls him their idol is because they hate him shows how biased you are.

Answer my question: How can you say he is better than one of the alltime greats when he isn't even the best in his era?

ps. ronaldinho etc came out claiming Ronaldo to be their idol while he was still playing as well.

How many world cup goals does cristiano have? 2..hahahah in 2 world cups, one against iran and the other against north korea.

How many fifa world player of the year awards does cristiano have? 1.
Ronaldo has 3. He had two by the time he was 21...if he didn't miss 3 years between being 23-26 years old (which is probably your best years as a sportsman) what couldn't he have achieved.

If you take that into account, Ronaldo had 8 years in top flight football before going back to Brazil, if you subtract the 3 years he missed. That means Cristiano has about 1 year or so to achieve what Ronaldo have...hahaha...UNCOMPARABLE DUDE!

Uncomparable man, you will never be able to convince anyone that Cristiano is better than the legend that is Ronaldo.

I love Cristiano Ronaldo, great player, amazing all round player, doesn't really have any weaknesses apart from maybe his defensive side, which face it - isn't what he's about. But Cristiano Ronaldo doesn't even touch the original Ronaldo to how good he was.

I like you abu, you make good informative posts mate, but here you are way off the mark. Does the 97 stand for the year you were born? Because that would make perfect sense.

Ronaldo literally terrorised defences on his own, in his prime 18-22 (His PSV years were awesome too IMO) he was actually unstoppable, I used to play football on holiday pretending I was him, shimmying around imaginary defenders. His burst of speed was electric and he just used to run past defenders for fun! His shooting was immaculate, his ball control was impeccable, and he was the best goal scorer I have ever witnessed, he would knock them in from distance, round the keeper, score with his head, bicycle kick, smash in free kicks, cooly slot past the keeper - over and over and over again.

As I said, Cristiano Ronaldo isn't even comparable, He does however have more agility than the original ronaldo, but I would put both in the 90's still.

@zzidane - Nice stats, I would personally up his dribble speed to 94, his top speed to 95 and his kicking power to 92.

Speed merchant and mazy dribble and goal poacher and fox in the box and free roamer cards I'd choose aswell.

What a player Ronaldo was, this thread has made me nostalgic


I do however think if things carry on then Cristiano Ronaldo will go down in history in a similar light, and I think Messi could go down as the greatest ever. But as an out an out goal scorer, a striker - no one has touched Ronaldo from 1990 to today (my football watching years).

<3 Ronaldo

Oh yeah... and Ronaldo is the world cups (the biggest football competition) All time leading goal scorer, this says it all, and he wasn't fit for some of them and had bad world cup times. His ability to step up to the plate against the biggest opponents and on the biggest stages is what elevated him onto another level. Cristiano Ronaldo fails on the biggest stage - I see you brought up him terrorising Bacary Sagna? Says it all that he's one of the best defenders that he has tore to pieces.

Agreed wheresmark!

Though I don't think Cristiano will be remembered in the same way...unfortunately if you look at the history of football, you need to perform well on the international stage to be remembered as true legend...very few people know who Eusebio is...and IMHO he is one of the best players ever. He just didn't win a world cup etc. Though he performed very well for Portugal when he played for them.

All the greatest players you hear about, are all world cup winners.

Same goes with Messi, and I actually agree, unless he does something internationally he doesn't deserve to be remembered as the best. He is a teriffic player no doubt, but I would pay money to see how well he does in another team without the best midfield behind him.

Back to topic, I agreed on everything you said about Ronaldo. Pure class! There is just not one player since the 90's that IMO come close to his ability and shear dominaton.

R9NALD9 said:

The fact that you say nobody calls him their idol is because they hate him shows how biased you are.

Answer my question: How can you say he is better than one of the alltime greats when he isn't even the best in his era?

ps. ronaldinho etc came out claiming Ronaldo to be their idol while he was still playing as well.

How many world cup goals does cristiano have? 2..hahahah in 2 world cups, one against iran and the other against north korea.

How many fifa world player of the year awards does cristiano have? 1.
Ronaldo has 3. He had two by the time he was 21...if he didn't miss 3 years between being 23-26 years old (which is probably your best years as a sportsman) what couldn't he have achieved.

If you take that into account, Ronaldo had 8 years in top flight football before going back to Brazil, if you subtract the 3 years he missed. That means Cristiano has about 1 year or so to achieve what Ronaldo have...hahaha...UNCOMPARABLE DUDE!

Uncomparable man, you will never be able to convince anyone that Cristiano is better than the legend that is Ronaldo.

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Look, c.ronaldo has more assists than ronaldo in the world cup. Anyway c.ronaldo has scored 73 goals in 76 matches which proves how talented he is. C.ronaldo makes a bigger impact wheras the fattie can't because he has a 'headache' or he 'can't play'. Ronaldo is an overrated player as everyone thinks he is so good just because he can do skills or dribble cr7 can do with his eyes closed(watch tested to the limit by castrol) Why do you think eusebio is underrated, because he played for portugal. The fatman is lucky to be brazilian and rely's on perfect passes whilst rarely he ever goes past half a team which ronaldo can do anytime of the day. He ain't even a speed merchant on pes.
Cr7 is so underrated and well better than messi as messi just illudes people with his silky dribbling and finishing like ronaldo but in the big picture, cr7 will beat them

abu97 said:

Look, c.ronaldo has more assists than ronaldo in the world cup. Anyway c.ronaldo has scored 73 goals in 76 matches which proves how talented he is. C.ronaldo makes a bigger impact wheras the fattie can't because he has a 'headache' or he 'can't play'. Ronaldo is an overrated player as everyone thinks he is so good just because he can do skills or dribble cr7 can do with his eyes closed(watch tested to the limit by castrol) Why do you think eusebio is underrated, because he played for portugal. The fatman is lucky to be brazilian and rely's on perfect passes whilst rarely he ever goes past half a team which ronaldo can do anytime of the day. He ain't even a speed merchant on pes.
Cr7 is so underrated and well better than messi as messi just illudes people with his silky dribbling and finishing like ronaldo but in the big picture, cr7 will beat them

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He rarely goes past half a team? You clearly were not alive when ronaldo was at his best, he used to go round players for fun, watch vids of him, the he used to have 3 or 4 defenders go for him constantly because he was that good. Ronaldo isn't even a speed merchant on pes? hes 35 and well past it!! what player over 30 is a speed merchant on pes? giggs isnt a speed merchant on pes? but was one of the fastest players in his day, michael owen isn't a speed merchant in pes; do you really base how good players are in real life on pes?

So your saying C ronaldo doesn't have people to pass it to him pinpoint? He's been at man utd and real madrid, who have both made their team around him, helps alot when the team is built around you.


Ronaldo now is slow, overwieght and no where near as sharp, he used to be one of the fastest players in the world, just as C.Ronaldo is now. Ask anyone who was alive to see both players. Your comnig across as idiotic after saying these things about Ronaldo - A legend.


And yeah C ronaldo is all round probably better than messi, as he is taller, stronger and better in the air, but messi is still a better player in what he does, Messi plays much more intelligently than Cristiano Ronaldo, and turns up to the big events more than C ronaldo does.

R9NALD9 said:

Agreed wheresmark!

Though I don't think Cristiano will be remembered in the same way...unfortunately if you look at the history of football, you need to perform well on the international stage to be remembered as true legend...very few people know who Eusebio is...and IMHO he is one of the best players ever. He just didn't win a world cup etc. Though he performed very well for Portugal when he played for them.

All the greatest players you hear about, are all world cup winners.

Same goes with Messi, and I actually agree, unless he does something internationally he doesn't deserve to be remembered as the best. He is a teriffic player no doubt, but I would pay money to see how well he does in another team without the best midfield behind him.

Back to topic, I agreed on everything you said about Ronaldo. Pure class! There is just not one player since the 90's that IMO come close to his ability and shear dominaton.

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I cannot really agree that you need to do well internationally.

With Messi, it's a different case. Argentina aren't playing good football, so 1 player, in this case Messi, cannot really shine can he?

As for Messi with another team. He has already proven that he doesn't need good midfield to do well. Why?
He is the top scorer and the top assists leader BUT this is the most important thing.
Whenever Barca are in trouble and are unsure what to do, THEY GIVE THE BALL TO MESSI. That tells me that he is the player that will give them that extra boost and the player that goes the extra distance.

The most important thing to do well is a GOOD TEAM and your teamwork ability (which C.Ronaldo cannot do as he isn't really good at team work) as well as your individual skills. Messi has all that he needs to do well, but he doesn't just do well, he is the best player currently. Every great player needs a good team to understand him and his moves.

As for Ronaldo vs C.Ronaldo. The Brazilian has done more and has shown us more, however in my view, you cannot compare them as their styles are different. Messi vs C.Ronaldo is better for comparisons.

Oh and as for the strength. Just because C.Ronaldo is taller and has a physique, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT HE IS STRONGER. Messi is just as strong simply because of his great balance that enables him to stay upright under pressure.

If ronaldo is running between 2 defenders he has the strength to run through them (if he wants to, he will usually go to ground)

If messi is running through them then he would have to beat them by ball control and speed, he wont out muscle defenders, but does have such good ball control that he will just draw fouls from them over and over if going inbetween 2 defenders. C. ronaldo is stronger (physically) than Messi though. Messi is still a better player.

^True, but I've seen many situation that convinced me that Messi is just as strong because of his superb balance. Sometimes when in tight situations, Messi always tries to dribble his way out as you said with his speed and ball control, however there are other situations that shows Messi's balance.

Some of the goals he scored this season for example. 3 defenders pushing him and he managed to score. That shows great balance.

Oh his balance is impeccable, Also how he stays on his feet after all the pressure he gets put under, we all know CR goes to ground easier. I think CR's upper build and hieght make him able to shoulder barge opponents out of the way if needed, where as Messi's balance and low centre of gravity help him in the same way, similar to Maradona.

Some great comments and great points there wheresmark and r9nald9. Come on abu give it up now man, your comments are just becoming more and more ridiculous. Its obvious cristiano is one of the best players in the world currently, he is a great player no doubt about it. but your saying things like ronaldo isnt even a speed merchant on pes, hes fat, hes not strong, he doesnt move and just stands there etc. the ronaldo on pes is a 35 year old ronaldo who retired just months after that. I'm hoping you buy PES 2013 next year, do you know why? because obviously you use pes to gather your information about how good a player is, and in PES 2013 you will be able to unlock classic brazil with a prime ronaldo in it, you will see his stats, and you will see his overall rating being at least 95, you will see the majority of all his stats, speed, finishing, strength, technique etc. all in their above 90 and then you may think, you know what, it looks like that ronaldo guy was fucking amazing and i was being a little bit ignorant about what i said about him and how shit he was. Ronaldo is a fucking legend man, not overrated, an absolute legend, and arguably the greatest player of all time, if not in every experts top 5. i believe if you was the age you are now, in the mid-late 90s, you would be the biggest ronaldo fan, as you are cristiano ronaldo fan now. nobody can deny cristiano is a great player, but he doesnt come near how good ronaldo was, but that doesnt mean cristiano cannot be as great, hes still young and still has time to become an all time great, but as of now, he just hasnt done it yet. He needs to perform on the biggest stages, the biggest games, champions league finals, world cups and euros, crucial league matches eg. league deciders between real madrid and barcelona, but so far in every one of those things cristiano has failed, hes just hasn't done it, against the best defenders/teams in the world hes been found out time after time after time. but like i said, he has got it in him to change that from now until his retirement. Ronaldo on the other hand has succeeded on all those things, world cup 98, world cup 02 in which he was the main man in helping brazil win that world cup, before the tournament people was doubting that he would ever be the same again after all the horrific injuries, but he shone and proved how much of a great he is. even the world cup in 06, where he was well past his best, but still showed some of the magic he has. r9nald9 made a good point of a match where he was at real madrid and scored a hattrick against man united at old trafford, just watch that performance and see how good that man was at football, see how complete he was as a footballer, how he had every tool in his box to be the legend he is, and you might even say that match against man united, that was a ronaldo who was slightly past his best, after the horrific injuries he had through his career, and lost a yard or two of pace.

Ronaldo is the Mike Tyson of Football.

wheresmark said:

Oh his balance is impeccable, Also how he stays on his feet after all the pressure he gets put under, we all know CR goes to ground easier. I think CR's upper build and hieght make him able to shoulder barge opponents out of the way if needed, where as Messi's balance and low centre of gravity help him in the same way, similar to Maradona.

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Exactly

abu97 said:

how is it a joke?
Who is better at heading?C.Ronaldo
At stamina?C.ronaldo
At crossing?C.Ronaldo
At passing?C.Ronaldo
At free kicks?C.Ronaldo
Power/long shots?C. Ronaldo
Form/injury?C.Ronaldo
Skills?C.Ronaldo
Agility?C.Ronaldo
Dribbling/technique?Ronaldo

All you have to do i copy and paste his name so don't even think you can't compare the two of them as c.ronaldo is better imo

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You obviously know fuck all about football m8. Brazil ronaldo is the best striker ive ever seen in my time. Dominated world cups, Every league hes played in. Most goals ever in a world cup. C ronaldo is a great player but saying hes better than ronaldo?. What is it? You a madrid fan by any chance or been drinking tennants super?

you cannot compare them - everyone looks at getting past a team and scoring but i look at the bigger picture. It's not all about goalscoring, it's about assists and vision and thats where cr7 dominates. Sure ronaldo at his prime was amazing but if cr7 had the same attitude - didn't care about money or anythings ot his hairstyle or looks or he red card for rooney aswell as higher mentality he would accomplish everything. HOw much times has he been barclays premier league player and he broke the world record for the most goals in the spanish league wheras ronaldo didn't. And that is amazing for a guy that helps out the midfiel and defence and plays more as a midfielder/winger. Also it's the same with messi - they are two different players with their own unique styles of play. You can compare an all-rounder with an all-rounder like c.ronaldo and aguero or rooney. Or messi vs maradona vs ronaldinho so this argument is pointless and has no outcome. You can compare fat ronaldo with eusebio and henry.

abu97 said:

you cannot compare them - everyone looks at getting past a team and scoring but i look at the bigger picture. It's not all about goalscoring, it's about assists and vision and thats where cr7 dominates. Sure ronaldo at his prime was amazing but if cr7 had the same attitude - didn't care about money or anythings ot his hairstyle or looks or he red card for rooney aswell as higher mentality he would accomplish everything. HOw much times has he been barclays premier league player and he broke the world record for the most goals in the spanish league wheras ronaldo didn't. And that is amazing for a guy that helps out the midfiel and defence and plays more as a midfielder/winger. Also it's the same with messi - they are two different players with their own unique styles of play. You can compare an all-rounder with an all-rounder like c.ronaldo and aguero or rooney. Or messi vs maradona vs ronaldinho so this argument is pointless and has no outcome. You can compare fat ronaldo with eusebio and henry.

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What? So now your just putting random players into random categories? I'm just gonna leave it now mate because your not making any sense at all. What's an all rounder? like can I put aguero in centre defence one match then as goalkeeper the next because he is an all rounder? Or shouldnt theirry henry be in the all rounder category too because he like cristiano gets as many assists as he does goals? Ah nevermind.

if you didn't know, all-rounder is someone that helps the team in attack and defence and sometimes sets up the play. Henry doesn't set up the play if you didn't know. He can't even header mate
Go on some online dictionary or ask a friend that know a bit about football.

you know nothing about football tho, you've proved that by your daft comments in almost every post you've made in this thread, you know a bit about football games, but you know nothing about football and what it's like to actually play the game in real life, which makes me think you've never actually played a game in real life from some of the comments you've made. don't start getting petty and mentioning an online dictionary because i could go back through your posts and correct douzens and douzens of spelling mistakes you have made, but it's a football related forum, not a punctuality one. anyway, your all rounder crap is nonsense, a player who gets back to help his team in defense aswell as attack will be doing so under his managers instructions, many a time would henry track back and help his defense out for the team to hold a lead when he was at arsenal, as any player would under his managers instructions, if cristiano is told to stay up, he will stay up, if his manager wants him back, then he'll get back. anyway this thread is starting to become more ridiculous the longer it goes on

i have and i know football isn't all about scoring. It is about asisting, finding your teammates, relying on players to do the perfect pass but for you it's all about scoring goals like 'ronaldo' when i think it;s about playing as a team with strategy. If you can head, cross, dribble, pass, take set-pieces, score long shots and have extremely good vision you are better than a guy that scores goals and can dribble. You clearly haven't played a football match where your teammates actually get along with you