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Manzmann

Registered User
Just wrote out a massive post and submitted it but its gone!!!! Argghh

I was basically saying. Always loved this game and hated people bashing it but this year....
*The shooting is fucked, soft and pathetic on all settings
*the passing is weird.. pass to unmarked player and it GOES THROUGH them!!...a lot
*80% of the goals I score are keeper fumbles and tap ins
*10 metre head start on a defender means nothing as he just catches you up.
*Awesome slide tackles are always fouls!!!
*pointless after game ratings...just pointless
*stupid form arrows. ...score a hat trick in a comp and you go from yellow to purple.hmmm. senseless. I mean who the fuck lets that one get through the net and into the final game every year. what are they thinking for heavens sake!!!!???

I'm seriously lost on this game. none of it makes any sense to me. Im 35 and have played pes for years and this most recent game feels like it should be the best one yet but theres something inherently sick deep in its core. Even the critics like it more than recent versions but I can't get down with it. I'm very saddened by it.
 

schranken

Registered User
This game is about about patience and technical know-how

*The shooting is fucked, soft and pathetic on all settings

You have to build up power and running before kicking to max it, no more blasting from standing still. Body position always important, otherwise it will become a weak and inaccurate shot.

*the passing is weird.. pass to unmarked player and it GOES THROUGH them!!...a lot

It depends on how long you press the pass button. just tap it slighly to pass to near team mates, a little longer to skip to further team-mates. You will feel the timing as time goes on.

*80% of the goals I score are keeper fumbles and tap ins

Hmm, no comment since my rates is 20 to 30 percent. maybe your variety of attacking, instead of blasting in front of goal, try short passes in the box or crossing. This is really subjective, varied between the gamers.

*10 metre head start on a defender means nothing as he just catches you up.

maybe konami wants to picture that modern defender can be as pacey as other outfield players. What you can do is double tap the sprint button to breakaway quickly, easier with pacey striker. on the other side, it make it easier for us too, to defend in the same situation. our defender always have the chance to catch up.

*Awesome slide tackles are always fouls!!!

Always tackle in front side, way before the ball. Tackle form side and back always draw fouls. get in position to tackle early.

*pointless after game ratings...just pointless

agree with you.


*stupid form arrows. ...score a hat trick in a comp and you go from yellow to purple.hmmm. senseless. I mean who the fuck lets that one get through the net and into the final game every year. what are they thinking for heavens sake!!!!???

Except goalkeeper, i always play my best players even in purple form. Not really much change especially with 85 plus rating.

I'm seriously lost on this game. none of it makes any sense to me. Im 35 and have played pes for years and this most recent game feels like it should be the best one yet but theres something inherently sick deep in its core. Even the critics like it more than recent versions but I can't get down with it. I'm very saddened by it.

The reason i answer you is we nearly the same age playing it from yeras ago. At first i was so upset, but after a month or so with patience, i can cope with the change and not bad i thought. It is not a perfect games though. I even throw my ego to play in slighly lower difficulty :tongue:

I hope it can satisfy you my friend.
 

Manzmann

Registered User
Thanks for your reply.

You've actually made me feel a lot better. to be honest this is the first time I haven't had a house mate to play this version with every single day. I now live with my mrs and i only meet my pals to play once/twice a week so I guess it feels like the game has been out ages but i haven't really played it as solidly as previous versions.

guess I gotta persist.

I appreciate all your counter points except the tackle one. It's cool if you've worked out that you can only really slide from the front and if thats how it is then ill be mindful of that so as not to get penalised. But if thats true the fact remains that they have outlawed sliding tackles from the side...even ones that look perfect. In real life we can tackle from the side.
anyways. time for a game!!
 

schranken

Registered User
I appreciate all your counter points except the tackle one. It's cool if you've worked out that you can only really slide from the front and if thats how it is then ill be mindful of that so as not to get penalised. But if thats true the fact remains that they have outlawed sliding tackles from the side...even ones that look perfect. In real life we can tackle from the side.
anyways. time for a game!!

Of course you can tackle from the side, but it take more precise timing to do it. Wrong timing and the opponent have already rolled the ball and you caught his legs. What i do is, even i am coming from the side to slide in, i always position myself slightly in front. Still the best way is to press the ooponent using pass button and tap it again to knock the ball off your opponent feet. Sliding tackle just a last resort or if i want to vent my frusration :laugh:

I myself have played by myself for the last 2 years since i graduated, so it is normal to feel like being bullied by the A.I :) so i know how u feel. Playing with friends is different because no matter how shit the games is, we still have fun with each other.
 

princo45

Registered User
This game is not about learning to play the game on patience or improve on your dexterity, reflex skills or tactical mind.

Behind the facade of bull-shitting "simulation" there are cunning and sadistic scripting choreographic events to make it looking like You have the control but in fact You don't.

The collision physics and ball physics, behavior and trajectories are rigged and railed to either cripple you or to sabotage all your attempts.

The AI of your team mates are deliberately programmed to fail. You play against 21 opponents at any given time in the match as your AI team mates are programmed to screw You up too, repeatedly (make it 23 as the ball and the morally blind referee are also programmed to be bias).

This poor excuse of a "sport" game is designed by obnoxious sadists to be played by "patient" masochists, who may randomly enjoy it.

There is no other single game in the market designed with the passion to screw up human player as dedicatedly, fervently and BLATANTLY as this game when it destroying any shred of concept of sport fairness, game developer integrity, ethics and honesty. It's a masterpiece in showing how programmers can deceptively and maliciously screw up/disregard the human player efforts over and over again.

Your skill and experience is not appreciated and honored in this game. You have no trust in game mechanism because there is no integrity and consistency or logics in events unfolding in the match.

They say a giving someone a "sporting" chance, but human player has no chance in this poor excuse of a "sport simulation" game.

You should not invest your sporty passion and enthusiasm, your emotional energy, your mental well-being into this treacherous travesty of entertainment.
 

pj_puttz

Registered User
This game is not about learning to play the game on patience or improve on your dexterity, reflex skills or tactical mind.

Behind the facade of bull-shitting "simulation" there are cunning and sadistic scripting choreographic events to make it looking like You have the control but in fact You don't.

The collision physics and ball physics, behavior and trajectories are rigged and railed to either cripple you or to sabotage all your attempts.

The AI of your team mates are deliberately programmed to fail. You play against 21 opponents at any given time in the match as your AI team mates are programmed to screw You up too, repeatedly (make it 23 as the ball and the morally blind referee are also programmed to be bias).

This poor excuse of a "sport" game is designed by obnoxious sadists to be played by "patient" masochists, who may randomly enjoy it.

There is no other single game in the market designed with the passion to screw up human player as dedicatedly, fervently and BLATANTLY as this game when it destroying any shred of concept of sport fairness, game developer integrity, ethics and honesty. It's a masterpiece in showing how programmers can deceptively and maliciously screw up/disregard the human player efforts over and over again.

Your skill and experience is not appreciated and honored in this game. You have no trust in game mechanism because there is no integrity and consistency or logics in events unfolding in the match.

They say a giving someone a "sporting" chance, but human player has no chance in this poor excuse of a "sport simulation" game.

You should not invest your sporty passion and enthusiasm, your emotional energy, your mental well-being into this treacherous travesty of entertainment.

I love this post, just love it.

I dont understand how the "you're just playing it wrong" people cannot see any of this stuff. It's right there in every single game of PES you play and it's nothing to do with how you play the game.
 
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