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[PS4] Sharing Teams Exports

ronystan

Registered User
I am working on a pc patch that will add more than 50 teams to the game and we use PES16 Next-Gen editor by razib with the FM Export of SmcCutcheon.
It gives very consistent stats to be honest.

I already suggested that to you, but you just ignored it.
Are FM stats perfect? Maybe not, but probably still better than some random guys.

But here comes a simple question for you:
Do you think honestly rating 1.5 stars these Indonesian teams consistent with the rest of Asian teams?

Like I said "You're absolutely right in this. Hands down."
If you don't know what that means, that means just as what is written there, "You're right", and it also means I'm wrong with the stats.
That is why I am asking you if you could please make those Indonesian teams for us as you know more about the suitable stats for players in PES. Hey I'll even help with the kits.
I never once insists that 1.5 stars is the perfect stars for them, that it must be 1.5 stars, not less. Never once.
 

vialli82

Registered User
[MENTION=36683]Falco[/MENTION]mforever , FM>PES conversion is not really a good thing, because of those stats especially:

-Jumping Reach is not Jumping in PES at all so it makes tall player overrated in the air
-Shooting power isn't Long shots
-Lofted pass isn't Cross, Corners, or whatever.

I've tried, but it's really hard to create an accurate Fm>PES converter. If i create a converter, because finding a good formula for those attributes is pratically impossible... Converted Mertesacker will have 77 in physical contact and 90 in jumping, as an example. I don't really see any other attributes, or "prefered move", to convert this.

At least for shooting power you've got a prefered move in FM "likes to shoot with power", but nothing about jumping, and i think it's important when you create a whole team or worst, a whole league.

It may be better to made Fifa>PES, but there's less "exotic" teams unfortunately
 

ronystan

Registered User
Thanks for your creations, Ronystan. It's potentially 4 more teams to add to the PAS League, so one can only appreciate and thank you for your amazing job ! ;)
Thank you for the kind words!
But if you ever use them, beware! As it's highly overrated. Just a warning:no:
 

ronystan

Registered User
[MENTION=36683]Falco[/MENTION]mforever , FM>PES conversion is not really a good thing, because of those stats especially:

-Jumping Reach is not Jumping in PES at all so it makes tall player overrated in the air
-Shooting power isn't Long shots
-Lofted pass isn't Cross, Corners, or whatever.

I've tried, but it's really hard to create an accurate Fm>PES converter. If i create a converter, because finding a good formula for those attributes is pratically impossible... Converted Mertesacker will have 77 in physical contact and 90 in jumping, as an example. I don't really see any other attributes, or "prefered move", to convert this.

At least for shooting power you've got a prefered move in FM "likes to shoot with power", but nothing about jumping, and i think it's important when you create a whole team or worst, a whole league.

It may be better to made Fifa>PES, but there's less "exotic" teams unfortunately

A few days a go I converse with Paul (PESUniverse BuLi creator and also one of the moderator here if somebody don't know) about FM to PES stats converter, as I want to learn how to make an ALMOST PERFECT stats which is based on FM.
He said now he don't use converter anymore but rather just by looking at the FM stats and calculate it in his head. So, he says he will do a breakdown for me and yesterday I finally got the breakdown.

Apparently Jumping in PES is not only based on Jumping Reach alone, but also "adjusted based on height". Make sense as it's Jumping Reach, not Jumping Height.
For Shooting Power he used Strength.

For FIFA just beware when using their young players stats as some peoples says that many of them is just some random stats, not their actual stats;)
 

wyffy

Registered User
A few days a go I converse with Paul (PESUniverse BuLi creator and also one of the moderator here if somebody don't know) about FM to PES stats converter, as I want to learn how to make an ALMOST PERFECT stats which is based on FM.
He said now he don't use converter anymore but rather just by looking at the FM stats and calculate it in his head. So, he says he will do a breakdown for me and yesterday I finally got the breakdown.

Apparently Jumping in PES is not only based on Jumping Reach alone, but also "adjusted based on height". Make sense as it's Jumping Reach, not Jumping Height.
For Shooting Power he used Strength.

For FIFA just beware when using their young players stats as some peoples says that many of them is just some random stats, not their actual stats;)

I made a converter last year, you can find it here:
https://www.pesoccerworld.com/desca...-manager-2017-a-pes-2017-by-wyffy11-5032.html

I'm doing a new one for FM2018 with the players' database and you only have to print the team/player you want.

The "global average" is a bit overrated, but the attributes are so good.

PD: Sorry for my english
 

vialli82

Registered User
I can't load team, i've got a error while loading.

I've got only one player by team on the document (Arsenal>Bellerin, Dortmund>Gonzalo Castro, that's all)
 

vialli82

Registered User
Btw, players like you said seems a bit overrated, 90 in Attack for Alex Sandro, like i've said, it's a bit hard to convert PES>FM

Also, you said that Fifa makes random stats, but FM too. You could check with the Fm data editor, there's many stats with "0", excepted one or two sometimes, especially for less known players.

But they've got a system to remedy to that issue: with the current and potential ability, it "converts" stats with 0 in the editor to a standard set of attributes...
Even for Height and Weight. Some unknown players will have a random height and weight.

Like i've said, FM isn't really the best solution. But not the best...

Fifa have the same system, based on height/weight/position/age/current overall and potential overall... But also the league level in which the player's play.
They've got Height/weight standards for players they don't know about, based on position 185cm 80kg for GK, 175/70 for winger etc., but they don't gives random height weight like in Football Manager.

In fact, EA database is less complete, but less randomized than FM.

Also, FM have many overrated players in lower league, 16 years old a bit known wonderkinds from lower league with exceptionnal stats. It doesn't match with PES standards.

A Fifa>PES converter should be a better option.

But Fifa also have some issues in their rating system: aging players will have their speed/movements atttributes radically increased with their age, same for stamina if a player is on the bench for a little while. They increase/decrease a bit too much their players in some area, so if we convert a player, we should take his attributes from the start of the league, and makes good combinations.

Or to create a global rating system with all informations we can have about a player by ourselves, but it's hard.

Sorry for my english too btw
 

mrgametight

Registered User
Hi to everybody, it's been a while that I subscribed to this forum, but never posted anything.
Thanks to all for your work and sharing all those teams !
I did the European Classics, with correct names and appearances.
Here's the link : https://www.mediafire.com/file/siudxn43zn492j7/European-classics.zip
Done on pc, should be ok for PS4 also I think.
World classics are half done, I will post later also.

When I added these they looked great! however in the team list when you hover over european classics, it would show:
O. Kahn
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-------
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O Kahn

etc. If you went into the edit player area all the names appeared it was weird
 

PES Buck

Administrator
Staff member
What about this for the other latin-american teams?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC-C_VuoyPg

Someone tried it? If yes, it goes in conflict with Liga MX of Erzo?

I did not install it to see if correct player names or any player conflicts with teams, but clicked 1st square to see where each time would install at.

None of the teams install on Erzo's Liga MX. Though there could be a conflict with Gimarquella as someone shared Chacarita Juniors which installs on that spot.

The team on the file you asked about that conflicts on the Gimarquella team is L.D.U. Quito.

Which makes since as his file has 24 teams and Other Latin America as 23 available team slots if you have Liga MX installed.

The OF uses all 23 teams left in Other Latin America and 1 from the Super Argentina - Gimarquella or Chacarita Juniors if already installed.
 

milenec11

Registered User
I did not install it to see if correct player names or any player conflicts with teams, but clicked 1st square to see where each time would install at.

None of the teams install on Erzo's Liga MX. Though there could be a conflict with Gimarquella as someone shared Chacarita Juniors which installs on that spot.

The team on the file you asked about that conflicts on the Gimarquella team is L.D.U. Quito.

Which makes since as his file has 24 teams and Other Latin America as 23 available team slots if you have Liga MX installed.

The OF uses all 23 teams left in Other Latin America and 1 from the Super Argentina - Gimarquella or Chacarita Juniors if already installed.
and also all kits are in 2017 template
 

barca4eva

Registered User
Hi Guys,

Here is the option to replace Newcastle Jets and Perth Glory, with Yokohoma F Marinos and Auckland City.

(Auckland City plays every year in Club World Cup as part of Oceania.)

important: Install my version of Japan as well, it will remove several duplicates. (that konami had in the game).

p.s. as always the teams are compatible with Cristianos Bundesliga and CSL.


http://www.mediafire.com/file/5d93m0fpaadfd5r/Yokohama.zip

http://www.mediafire.com/file/frwk9njad85k6zk/AucklandCity.zip

http://www.mediafire.com/file/hjarfjqhxsfr9rj/japan.zip

Enjoy!!
 

scarini

Registered User
I did not install it to see if correct player names or any player conflicts with teams, but clicked 1st square to see where each time would install at.

None of the teams install on Erzo's Liga MX. Though there could be a conflict with Gimarquella as someone shared Chacarita Juniors which installs on that spot.

The team on the file you asked about that conflicts on the Gimarquella team is L.D.U. Quito.

Which makes since as his file has 24 teams and Other Latin America as 23 available team slots if you have Liga MX installed.

The OF uses all 23 teams left in Other Latin America and 1 from the Super Argentina - Gimarquella or Chacarita Juniors if already installed.

Thank you for your kind and complete answer!
 
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