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It's about time konami made the fox engine. It promises to be multiplatform, dynamic (usable in different types of games and easy to make)and scalable. It is also said that a tweaked fox engine would be used for pes 2014 and onwards; one year of new engine on the ps3/xbox 360.

It'll be stupid for Konami to only do ronaldo; i also highly doubt that they will do all players, my guess is that they will do it for the top or unique players only. Also, i have heard that double tapping 'X' is the control for tackling in PES 2013. Sure it will be comfortable unlike FIFA's...

Too early for a gameplay video i think, gotta wait a couple more months for that. The trailer looked like a touched up ingame footage. You can see a few awkward animations in the video; plus they actually compared the real counterpart too. Another point is, comparing the PES 2012 trailer, the...

At least for the first time this gen, they are actually polishing and fixing the current game for the next game. Currently it feels like we are playing betas after betas Alright, since konami has a knack of destroying the demo code for the final game, lets just say "konami, dont listen to us...

@Sabatasso Kind like Fabregas moving to Barcelona, he recieved such a huge boost. Though, in some extent, i think it is neccesary. I mean the easiest way to make a stronger team in comparison to a weaker team is too simply boost the players stats to superhuman levels. That's why i tried to...

Obviously one of the major attribute lacking in current football games is the ability or stats to measure the artificial intelligence of a player and their style in a team. My question is how would one actually do that? This would get rid of cards, and the stupid super stat players in elite team...

Speaking of crossing, i noticed that you seriously have to exagerate the analogue stick to the direction to actually aim. If you pull your stick south-west(only if your your attacking to the right beside the box nearest to you), after hitting the cross button, only then will it cross at the edge...

I was one of the players who believe that the shooting is not broken. The only problem in Konami's part is just bad balance. Speaking of balance, there are plenty of balance issues in PES as jenkey proved to us in his patches. The core of the game is essentially the same between retail and...

so what your saying is, its more or less the same as jenkey's except jenkey's is modifiable. Alright thanks. To be honest, i wanted to use both yair's and jenkeys, since its compatible.

What exactly does yairs patch do? It says improves passing and shooting, but its not specific. Does it bring back passing to pes 2011 level and allow more user input with shooting when choosing direction? If that's the case, i will definitely download it. Im just afraid it will be exactly like...

Patch 1.04 should be a mlo special, no team types, proper divisions like in pes 2011, plus maybe toning down the form arrows(too much difference), and making them change every match. Other than that, im enjoying 1.03, i would rate it as good as 1.00 for me.

Yeah, for me the only worst thing with pes 2012 compared to 2011 is the scripting or the cheating. I know for a few of you it is possible to actually cheat the cheating ai, but the important thing is that it should never be neccesary. Im just saying that if they would patch something, they...

Football is an incredible 90 minute game. FIFA and Konami are basically trying putting different elements of the 90 minute games and try to squeeze it into 10-20 minutes. It just came to me, what exactly do i want from that 90 minutes, into a 10-20 minute video game. Bare in mind that some...

So, in the end it depends on perspective on what makes the game for anyone. Anyway OCKRASS, basically for you PES is worst because of the unrealistically quick movements and passing speeds causing the game to bring out a pacey end to end football, and of course animations. I don't agree with...

This. Slows down the game tremendously. I would also like to see konami tweak the stats like what chimps did. Star players are overpowered, and poor players' response and teamwork stat are way too poor. One more thing is to tweak the AI so that the AI would actually take one or more touches...

Brilliant post. Pointed out exactly what's wrong with fifa 12 and proved your points that you said on another thread. The reason why i wanted to read this was; taking no regard whatsoever of whether or not fifa 12 is better or worst than pes 12, is to prove peeps that fifa 12 is definitely not...

Wait a minute, isn't the sliders in fifa 12 responsible only for affecting gameplay and the AI? When compared to PES, the sliders only determines how a specific team plays. I mean, i don't think it's possible to compare 'sliders' on 2 different areas of the game. Regarding full manual; never...

Damn phone. Double posted.

Wow. That liverpool vs arsenal game was so bloody brilliant. That game definitely is alive. Have anyone noticed how pes 2011 and 2012 looked like it was in a rushed state. I mean compare it with other pes this gen. From 2008 to 2010 the game at least looked and feels finished despite its...

From my assumptions, everyone else is arguing against Abu that the prime ronaldo would beat the crap out of CR at his prime. Abu is saying that the recent ronaldo is not at good as CR at his prime. I guess what Abu is trying to say is that luis ronaldo didn't maintain his form and fitness for a...