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Has anyone played the new PS2 version of 2010, released today? Does it retain that PES feel we all knew and loved?

How can you get more out of game by passing more, when the game is so AI assisted and passes dont always go where you want? This game is a broken PS2 game that is nowhere near as good as PES 6 on PS2!!!

Good thread tech-skill Agree with everything you had said. This game is a tragic end to PES and people are so blind to how bad a game it is. Like you say FIFA has its bugs but is essentially a far more playable game although far from perfect. I see noone can give you a good answer as to what...

So does anyone have any idea why Konami put this in the first place? what purpose does any AI assistance serve with clearances and tackling? Any views?

All Konami would need to do is have a tier system where the top tier is where players go to play as top teams like Barca then a tier with mid table teams like valencia, Roma, Villa, Spurs ect then a lower tier with the bottom half teams. They could then have a tier so you can play against anyone...

I have been playing PES since the days of ISS on SNES and am Hoping Konami will incorporate a zoomable camera for side and vertical views. This could replace all other angles as there wouldnt be any need for them due to the fact we can zoom in/out to whatever view we feel comfortable with. FIFA...

Konami need to incorporate every single thing from PES 5/6 on PS2 and more! improved game engine and animation is a must (completely writing off 2009 engine/animation as it is terrible) Who at Konami passed this off as acceptable?? By completley overhauling PES is the only way to get fans back...

Gameplay is the be all and end all but its the little touches that make games feel like the real deal: * untucked shirts, lower socks ect * Managers and subs on touchline * Different goal nets for different stadiums (a must) * Individual crowd atmosphere (songs ect) * Coin toss (as ISS did)...

Sorry if this has already been asked in a thread. I dont own a Wii and would just like to know if you can play PES 2009 with normal controller and in the normal way without using the numchuck? I have played 2008 on Wii and although its something different i would like to know if you can play the...

sorry if this has been asked in a post before, but could anyone tell me wether PES 2008 is still accessable online for PS2? Also is it playable as regards to lag? Cheers

Been playing PES 6 ever since it was released and went out and bought a PS3 just to play 2009. On first impressions i thought 'wow the graphics are great' and the graphics when the ball hit the net i thought were fantastic, but in the cold light day the gameplay is all that matters (look at Fifa...

Which is the whole point of this thread...as to try to understand why Konami havent just tweaked the gameplay from PES 6 instead of trying to make big changes (which would have been at less cost to them) and end up nearly breaking what was a fantastic game. To be honest i think most PES fans...

having played PES for years I was interested to hear the views of anyone on the thinking behind Konami's changes to PES since it moved into next-gen? I thought PES 6 on PS2 was the ultimate blend of PES 4 and PES 5. Why did they feel the need to change things too much apart from a few tweeks and...

Things i would take from FIFA and put into PES 2010: * Commentry * Player movement * Stats * Online play Unfortunately although PES 2009 isnt a bad game it has so many little niggles that I have gone back to playing PES 6 on PS2 and FIFA 09 online. All konami had to do was duplicate PES 6...

Could anyone out ther let me know how good this years version of PES is on PS2 compared to 2006/2008? are: *Graphics any better (goal nets clearer)? *playability? *Edit mode? *Stadiums (how many or new ones)? I have PS3 version (xbox 360 version the two years before that) this year but...

I also think PES 6 was best version playability wise. PES 4 was always my prefered choice but thought the speed of PES 5 was spot on and Konami seemed to blend the good points of the two games and made a near perfect game with PES 6. To be fair though PES 2009 although not perfect, it is still a...

Will do El Croz. My pes 2009 name is SSAVFC.

good idea El Croz. about setting up match specific match rooms for middle/poor teams. unfortunately there is no getting round the 'win at all costs' merchants as they are entitled to play as who they like. Just good to see there are a few players out there who play the game in a sporting way.

Yes i agree. Poor decision by Konami to not allow created teams in master league as its not good for us football purists who dont want to have continental teams filtering into the english league as seasons progress. Because of this, i for one only play league mode now especially as (good on...

In my opinion i think PES is so very close to been the game we all want it to be. I for one are not worried in the slightest about fully licenced teams as long as 2010 gives us an even more in depth edit mode (which i think adds fun by editing your own stuff). New things for 2010: * Stadium...