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Yes. The gameplay is so stiff on PES09 it is unbelievable.

I've bought PES for years before FIFA, but I think FIFA jumped a massive gear with 08 and this year I feel it'll be a more 'complete' and enjoyable game to play, judging on what I've seen in the two demos (with AA in the PS3 version this time). Forget fanboys and all that nonsense.

FIFA is going to be the better game this year though. Fanboy or not.

They're not if you enjoy rigid gameplay and non fluid player animation.

Fairly underwhelmed by the demo myself. The cons outweigh the pros by some margin. Cons: Dribbling not as slick as last years. Seems cumbersome and the ball feels even lighter. Looks like it's on a shoestring when you sprint with it. Gameplay therefore feels very rigid. Almost as if the play...

Is there a workaround for XP??

Can't install patch I'm trying to patch PES2008 to 1.20 but when I click the exe I get the message '1628: failed to complete the installation'. Anyone else getting this, how do you fix it?

The badges look a bit stretched.

Looks quite similar I'd say, yes.

I'm 100% sure the licensed PL teams, NUFC and Spurs, have the official new style numbering and lettering. Not sure if the unlicensed ones have it though. It's always possible to add them with Kitserver anyway.

Pretty much, yes.

Cut-backs are part of football, and thus, Pro Evo. Accept it.

What difficulty is there in designing for the PS3?

E6600 @ 2.4Ghz 2Gb RAM 512mb ATI x1950 Pro (PCI-e) I've mastered how to dive, but how do you shirt pull?? Loving the demo, shame about the time though - wish it was 10 mins. Ah well, s'enough to last me till the 26th I guess. ;)

Looks lovely on mine. :)

Very nice update, much appreciated whoever made it. It's even got the new EPL font on the back of the shirts! :)

There are 15 new stadiums in the game. Not 15 in total. ;) I'd say the Emirates will be one, hope so, it's a terrific stadium. Any word if Stamford Bridge has been included this time? (after its absence in PES6).