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I skipped PES 11 and 12 and instead played FIFA 11 and 12. PES has fallen off in recent years, but I have been very impressed with the PES 13 demo. The AI is very good and the manual settings add another layer of strategy to the game. The animations are also a lot smoother. I think it is a bit...

I played PES 5 until PES 10 (on pc), but switched to fifa 11 and 12. I have yet to play the PES 2013 demo, but it looks very good. I don't really play online, so I am curious what the new Master League has to offer. Fifa 13's career mode looks amazing, though...

You are definately right. I used to play a lot of pes between pes 5 and 10, but now I really like FIFA. I don't really understand all the complaints with FIFA 12, In my opinion it is better in all aspects other than presentation, but clearly a lot of people disagree. From my experiences watching...

I am under the impression that the player skill levels (passing, etc.) influence how accurately their actions conform to your manual commands. Or at least, that's how it should be I agree that fifa needs some more player individuality though, PES had that nailed in the past.

I'm not too impressed with the demo either. The player movements seem awkward and inorganic. Some of the animations still are no where near on par with fifa (e.g. goalkeepers, etc.) which affects the robotic feel of the players and smoothness of gameplay. Maybe its just me, but I also don't...

I voted for fifa. I switched from pes 11 to fifa 11 this year and found fifa to be a much more complete experience, especially with some of the gameplay/ai mods. I don't play a whole lot online. Both games look promising, but I think FIFA has a better base to build off of. Either way, I look...

For all PC players, I highly recommend this patch. It makes the pc version much harder/more realistic. http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164884&page=74 It is constantly being updated

I switched to fifa 11, too. I felt that PES was good and a step in the right direction, but just didn't feel complete. in my opinion, the shooting felt over-powered and the animations still felt clunky. I initially thought that I would buy fifa 11 for just this year and pes again next year, but...

I hate to say this, but I am of the same mind. I still haven't purchased either PES or FIFA (on PC) because it has been hard to decide which to buy. I have played both demos (which I assume more or less reflect the final product) quite a bit, and I am leaning towards Fifa. PES passing I really...

Yeah, I am also looking to import the UK PC version. Wish there was a US pc version... Any suggestions on good, legit websites to buy from? Last year I got it from a seller on Amazon.

I like a lot of the changes listed. I think it would be cool, if you do well in ML with a smaller team, you get options of transferring to another team. I think it would be cool if you could also become a National Team Manager, where you would have to select top form players for international...

I imagine they would, it is the World Cup after all. I don't know anything official, but konami mentioned that they had several updates planned to keep pes 2010 "fresh" till pes 2011.

On my second match, I got my first pen in exhibition mode. I dunno, but the game feels better/smoother. But I like the new formations. I think it was a good update, just wish they had all the transfers.

http://www.pesfan.com/news/8813450/New-PES-2010-DLC-Announced/ "Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH has confirmed details of more free update content for PES 2010 for PLAYSTATION®3, Xbox 360 and PC-DVD. Due for download mid-February, the latest update files will bring every club team roster...

I used this link for the Konami 1.3 version: http://files.wyw.ru/4228480 I don't understand the language either, but on the site I entered the code, pressed the button and clicked the link. Try this, it should work.

Interesting stuff! I ran into an file on evo-web, where the stats were globally edited. I thought the gameplay was pretty good, though strange because all the defense and attack stats were scaled way down. It still played fine though. If you are interested I suggest you take a look, the gameplay...

I ran into this patch on evo-web that really is nice. It makes the game more realistic, I thought I would just share the info. The most recent version is on the last page of the thread. http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=56533

I also feel that Konami should come out with a special world cup patch for pes 2010. At least they should include, update, and license the participating teams. I hope they will add special content or something.

How about also having manager transfers in ML, so if you are successful with bringing a lower team up, bigger teams could offer you control. That way, you could move up the ranks and manage better teams with bigger budgets. Maybe you could also have access to becoming a national team coach. So...