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I played a copy of PES 2008 the other day and while it reminded me of how frustrating it could be (how hard was it to hit the target!), it did make me think that a football game that leant more towards arcade than sim could do well these days. I think a lot of the frustrations about modern footy...

Yeah, go for it. I'll read it. I've got the same feelings about 2016, lets hope 2017 is an improvement.

Gotta be Stoke, even if it's just for Crouchie.

I've finally decided to go for Roma, good kit, proper licences, Totti and I've created Mick McCarthy as the manager :laugh: I don't get to play that much, so wouldn't ever get round to building up a team from nothing.

I've always made crazy transfer decisions in the past by selling star players just because I don't like them in real life, or signing someone like Crouch and then getting massively frustrated at how slow he is. The only bonus is you get a nice boost to the transfer kitty when selling. I sold...

Just interested to know who people have found to be the most fun teams to play as? Any unexpected gems I'm missing. Also, who are the most surprisingly boring teams to play as? I always expect Arsenal to be way more exciting than they are.

I've only just got hold of PES2015 and want to start a master league. Can anyone recommend a good team to play as? I'm thinking Brugge, Leverkusen or Sampdoria (middly good teams that aren't world beaters). Is it annoying not having the full league for Belgian / german teams etc?