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fifa doesn't need it because the teams are already licensed. You get the game, and you're ready to go. No need to spend half the year trying to fix the fake player names or teams and wait for a new option file.

it's called false hope. everyone was excited abotu gamescom. That proved to be a disappointment. Now everyone is hoping the demo will be good. Well, I'm not too confident.

so a perfect opportunity to test out their most recent build at such an event and receive feedback, and they've given them a crap old build to play around with. And you say it's nothing like the new build. So what was the point in leaving gamers disappointed. It's only going to turn away what...

so what if he's copied, at least he admits to it. Look at konami deciding to implement custom sliders and 360...

i never knew about double posting lol

well that's like saying every day is the same. There is so much variety in shot animations in fifa 10.

fifa 10 to me just seems like there has been a lot of work put into the game, whereas pes is just has updated graphics and sliders which fifa 09 had. Every tackle is different, every shot is different, in fifa, whereas in pro evo, you get the same tackle, same toe poke shots, same goalkeeper...

perfectstrik. So at gamescom, pes is a 10% finished game and fifa 10 is 100% finished. You are indeed retarded. Why bother showing a shit game if it is missing that much stuff? People who played pes weren't impressed. So why even release a playtest in the first place.

perfectstrik...deluded...i guess what you will be saying come november when the game is released...''the game released is not the actual game, they will be releasing the actual pro evo next november''

only if the person playing with torres is a noob. I mean I can score a goal after dribbling past 10 players with carragher in pes... pinball physics, it happens in real life. Better than having no variation in pes. CL played at night in fifa 10. So what PES still don't have the licenses...

i actually think if we combined pes graphics with fifa gameplay, we would have a winner. the pes lighting is very good whereas fifa looks a bit cartoony from distance. However, fifa has so much more variation, different jumping animations, tackling, jostling, shooting, whereas pes feels like...

pes may be fun but it sure aint realistic which is what fifa provides.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ONdbvPv62A new vid?

also, because of the camera they are using, you don't see the full effect because the players are so small. They seem to be using tele view. Would be better using dynamic which is closer but not too big. I just think the messi cross was unrealistic as hell, as was the henry goal.

its a polished turd. they need to start from scratch, new animations, new ball physics and new everything. Graphics are the only standout.

graphics are good but gameplay is not. Why do you still score goals like the one france just scored. Why do players still run like robots? Why is the ball physics so unrealistic as in seems attached to the ground... not looking good...

perfectstrik, how can you say pes 2010 looks more organic or better when there hasn't been a proper video like the above out yet.

it is real gameplay though, as in, this is what you see in instant replay. It's just been edited with fancy music and transitions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRmW6n62qcM i think pes fans will be in a for a pleasant surprise. This is all in game footage edited into a sequence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRmW6n62qcM here is a sneak preview of what to expect from fifa. What do you think? I havnt found anything for pes yet.