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AC Milan

Sweey

*RETIRED*
As I feared, Giacomo Bonaventura could also be leaving this summer as he's represented by Mino Raiola.

We've held talks today regarding Neto, Mattia Perin and Salvatore Sirigu. Neto was the early favourite but it appears we're now more interested in Perin. There's also consideration of Alex Meret, a talented 20-year-old owned by Udinese who was on loan at Serie B champions SPAL last season (the one that's just finished).
 

rebelinho

Moderator
As I feared, Giacomo Bonaventura could also be leaving this summer as he's represented by Mino Raiola.
Could it happen you just cut "relations" with the cunt?

We've held talks today regarding Neto, Mattia Perin and Salvatore Sirigu. Neto was the early favourite but it appears we're now more interested in Perin. There's also consideration of Alex Meret, a talented 20-year-old owned by Udinese who was on loan at Serie B champions SPAL last season (the one that's just finished).
Perin was the GOAT goalkeeper of PES2013. Truly remarkable development that guy had.

Any mention of possible transfer fees? I've read an interesting opinion today, you could sell Donnarumma for €20m (at least), use that to get Belotti, and the possible excess to get a goalkeeper.

Also, I'm guessing Abbiati is 100% retired?
 

Sweey

*RETIRED*
Could it happen you just cut "relations" with the cunt?
If Bonaventura goes and I'm not forgetting any others who belong to him then yes. He and Massimiliano Mirabelli (our director of sport) now hate each other which some are saying was the final straw with the Donnarumma deal. Once again though, if one's agent falling out with the club's director of the sport is a reason to do what Donnarumma has done, that's pathetic.

Perin was the GOAT goalkeeper of PES2013. Truly remarkable development that guy had.

Any mention of possible transfer fees? I've read an interesting opinion today, you could sell Donnarumma for €20m (at least), use that to get Belotti, and the possible excess to get a goalkeeper.
I've read €15m for Perin including bonuses which is fair....except for the fact he's twice suffered knee ligament damage so far in his career which is a real worry. The fee will be broken down into something like a €10m fee with a fixed amount to be paid for every 10 appearances he makes until the additional €5m is fully paid or he is sold.

Our most recent offer for Belotti was a €20m loan (of one or two years) with €60m obligation to buy. Torino thought about it but said no.

Also, I'm guessing Abbiati is 100% retired?
Not only is he 100% retired, he's now back as club manager :sweey3:

EDIT: Sky Italia say the Perin fee would be €7m fixed + €8m in attendance bonuses (as opposed to €10m fixed + €5m in attendance bonuses).
 

Sweey

*RETIRED*
What about Leno?
He appears to be on the list but the price is currently putting us off (around €20m).

Other Raiola players at the club - Ignazio Abate, Giacomo Bonaventura, Rodrigo Ely, Matteo Gabbia (a midfielder from our youth team due to sign his first professional contract with us on October 19), Cosimo La Ferrara (a forward from our youth team contracted until June 2019) and Hachim Mastour who will be out of contract at the end of this month.
 

Bež

Registered User
Such a shame about Donnaumma, he could've gone on and become a Milan icon. Agents are ridding the game of any loyalty.
 

Sweey

*RETIRED*
So Donnarumma is privately claiming he didn't extend with us out of "principle" because we let his situation drag on for so long.

Given the situation with our takeover we couldn't negotiate a new deal with him - or anyone else - but if there's blame, a fair portion of that lies with Galliani who held informal talks with Suso about a future contract but not Donnarumma.

That being said, Raiola had been delaying a meeting for the last two months so evidently Donnarumma is either lying to himself and everyone around him or he's more than a bit of an upstart and incredibly arrogant. Either way, he's known for quite some time that he was going to do this so it was a dirty, calculated move designed to hurt us even though he "supports" the club.

Raiola is now furious with us that we're letting the media savage his client - why would we intervene?

As I see it, the person to blame here is Donnarumma and not Raiola. Greedy agent he might be but Raiola can't force a player to do something like this. Bonaventura's contract renewal last summer was a smooth affair and he didn't request obscene wages.
 

Joel

Administrator
Staff member
Bonaventura doesn't have the stardom or pull that Donnarumma has, so there is nothing to inflate his ego, nor is there anything Raiola can use to manipulate the situation.

I'm not trying to absolve Donnarumma of the blame, as he is still an individual who can make choices, so he has to carry some blame. But still; he's a young kid in football terms, who probably has Raiola filling his head with a lot of shit. This is a guy who would have stopped Pogba to United happening if he didn't get the extortionate agent fee that he didn't deserve. He's a fat, odious, little pig who football wouldn't miss if he fucked off.
 

Sweey

*RETIRED*
Raiola is holding a press conference about Donnarumma at 4pm - this won't end well for anyone. The takeaway will probably be that neither he nor Donnarumma trust our new owners and that they don't like how some of our directors behave or negotiate. Sportitalia have said that they won't attend because "the media should not be used".

In the meantime, Massimiliano Mirabelli (our director of sport) is flying to Poland to try and convince Donnarumma to renew. I sincerely hoped he's spoken with Raiola beforehand or that's just going to make this situation explode even more.
 

Sweey

*RETIRED*
According to the somewhat dodgy Football Italia website:

Agent Mino Raiola is expected to say that Gianluigi Donnarumma refused a new Milan contract because repeated requests for guarantees were ignored.

On Thursday, directors Marco Fassone and Massimiliano Mirabelli confirmed that Donnarumma had turned down a new deal, noting it did not seem to be an economic issue.

The 18-year-old was offered €5m per year wages, including bonuses, but today Raiola will break his silence by speaking to the media in Montecarlo.

According to reports, Raiola will explain that Donnarumma wanted to stay at Milan, but was disheartened by the lack of clarity under their new Chinese ownership.

Raiola claims he tried repeatedly to get a list of the investors in the club after the takeover, or even a meeting with owner Yonghong Li, to no avail.

When the Financial Fair Play plan sent to UEFA was withdrawn, to be changed and delivered again in October, this raised more question marks.

Raiola therefore asked to introduce a release clause into the contract worth €40m (and not €10m as originally believed) if Milan had financial difficulties or failed to qualify for the Champions League.

This request was also rejected, so with pressure put on Donnarumma to make a decision quickly, they preferred to just walk away.
Interested to see what the likes of [MENTION=29007]Bish[/MENTION] [MENTION=20055]Joel[/MENTION] and [MENTION=215711]rebelinho[/MENTION] (so basically fans of other clubs with no vested interest) think of the matter if that is indeed what Raiola says.

For me, there's no doubt that there are question marks around the owners and the future but if we ran into financial trouble we'd have just sold Donnarumma for €100m anyway? He's 18 so wouldn't have been damaged or affected by such issues being created? :shrug:
 

Joel

Administrator
Staff member
I can understand why they want the release clause inserted, but imo, €40m is too low. He has best in the world potential - maybe more than just best in the world, as he's on a path of all time great lists - and with the way the market is these days, something like €75m would have been closer to what it should be.
 

Sweey

*RETIRED*
18:30

Raiola's 4pm (UK time) press conference - which later turned into an intimate interview as only 2-3 journalists turned up - hasn't happened yet. Nobody has seen him.

19:49

Raiola has now spoken and has requested that journalists enforce a reporting embargo until 11pm tonight (UK time, midnight in Italy).

From what I can gather he makes allegations aimed at one person - not sure if that is Massimiliano Mirabelli or our CEO, Yonghong Li.
 

Sweey

*RETIRED*
A word from our Ultras about Raiola's comments :evilsweey2:

Obviously with HIS journalists, with previously agreed questions and all pre-recorded because it should never be a real debate with real questions. It seems strange to see Raiola, who has always shunned the media, opening his doors and trying to save the impossible.

It seems strange to hear words like ‘hostile climate’, ‘forcing’, and ‘threats’ that translate financially to €25m in five years, the captain’s armband and six months of reflections to get to June and say they feel hurried.

It’s seems strange to hear about a hostile climate for a lad who is the first Milan player in many years to have his own song from the fans and so much love from every single Milan fan.

It seems strange to learn from Raiola that there was no discussion of wages or the length of the contract. Maybe because in the famous game of ‘the compensation that would be paid to Milan will go to me’, some elementary things have no value.

It seems strange that Raiola, with his polished Italian and infinite culture, did not comprehend the simple meaning of a banner to which he referred!

It seems strange that such a great agent was unable to represent the interests of his client. Instead he destroyed his image not only in the eyes of Milan fans, but of all football fans, who now find that an 18-year-old can be irreconcilable with the club which launched him in the sole interest of a man behind him, promising mountains of money.

It seems strange that, just a few days after the farewell of Francesco Totti, in tears in front of his fans, a lad of 18 would prefer money to being treated as a God by his fans.

For a sportsman, the gratitude of the fans has no financial value, and we invite Donnarumma to reflect upon what he has denied himself for the rest of his career.

It doesn’t seem strange to us that Raiola didn’t explain how everything changed so fast.

It doesn’t seem strange to us that someone who really wanted to be a club symbol (Hamsik) moved away from this character, becoming captain of the club he chose to love.

It doesn’t seem strange even to try and cast old condors (Galliani) in a good light, who say they want the best for Milan having placed one who could have been a club symbol for the future in the hands of a vulture, so now he is merely the symbol of easy money.

The actual reality of football is increasingly far from the passion of the people and closer to Raiola-style characters, figures capable of conditioning whole careers and histories of the most important clubs with one goal: their own self-interest.

We want to thank those who are working for the good of Milan, and have brought people with Rossoneri values back to the club, people who really meant it when they kissed the badge and deserved it when they received affection.

We know it must have been difficult for the lad to defend himself from the thousands of criticism and insults he’s received in the past few days, but when you swear love and betray it, that’s all that can happen.

On social media it’s likely that things have been over the top, and of course we don’t think threats are right, they have nothing to do with our position.

We believe there may still be a chance to rebuild things, but it’s now linked to the expulsion for his affairs of those who pushed him in a bad direction, ruining his image.

Players come and go, we and Milan will always be there.
Preach on :sweey2:

Mostly taken from Italian sources with a bit of Football Italia thrown in where my translation skills died a death and Google was odd.
 

rebelinho

Moderator
Do you think Milan would truly accept Dollarumma back, or is it just to put even more pressure on Raiola/Gigio?

Gotta say, your board (Fassone and Mirabelli mostly) have been truly impressive in the way they handled this. Really liking their aproach.

About your other post...

Raiola claims he tried repeatedly to get a list of the investors in the club after the takeover, or even a meeting with owner Yonghong Li, to no avail.
Since when does he a) needs to meet them and b) they have to answer to his "demands?"

When the Financial Fair Play plan sent to UEFA was withdrawn, to be changed and delivered again in October, this raised more question marks.
I agree.

Raiola therefore asked to introduce a release clause into the contract worth €40m (and not €10m as originally believed) if Milan had financial difficulties or failed to qualify for the Champions League.
Understandable, I'd do the same, €40m would still be a record transfer for a GK. I suppose the regular release clause would be €100m?

All in all I still take Milan's side. Regardless of the deals, Gigio said one thing and acted the opposite way. I fucking hate that.
 

Sweey

*RETIRED*
Do you think Milan would truly accept Dollarumma back, or is it just to put even more pressure on Raiola/Gigio?
I think it is a bit of a both. I like the way Fassone and Mirabelly have handled themselves so far, especially Fassone who is already doing a million times better than I expected he would.

What we're saying now is that we're doing absolutely everything in our power, even after the silly claims from Raiola, to have Donnarumma stay so if he doesn't, no way can the fault lie with us. If we can fracture their relationship, even better. I doubt it'll happen but this leaves Raiola squirming somewhat.

Since when does he a) needs to meet them and b) they have to answer to his "demands?"
He has one hell of an ego problem but it doesn't help that he had such a good relationship with Galliani as he expected the same with the new owners and is pissed off that they're not interested in him. He even said today that if Galliani were still at Milan, we'd already have Ibrahimovic (why the fuck do we want him now?).

Understandable, I'd do the same, €40m would still be a record transfer for a GK. I suppose the regular release clause would be €100m?

All in all I still take Milan's side. Regardless of the deals, Gigio said one thing and acted the opposite way. I fucking hate that.
Yes, the regular clause would be €100m. The thing is, Raiola now claims we never even reached the point of speaking about money or release clauses - what exactly DID we get around to discussing then? His contract has less than 12-and-a-half months to run and they don't want to discuss money? He's lying through his teeth.

I sense from this that Raiola was only willing to extend Donnarumma's deal if we gave him either a) a large sack of money or b) guaranteed work on other transfer deals where he could make money from us.

He's no doubt unnerved by our recent links to Jorge Mendes as well.
 

Sweey

*RETIRED*
We should wrap up a deal for Andrea Conti within the next couple of days - €20m plus Raoul Bellanova (17-year-old RB capped many times at under-17 level) and Giovanni Crociata (19-year-old midfielder who spent last season on loan at Brescia).

Any deal for Lucas Biglia looks off as we seem unwilling to offer more than €15m which is a stance I support.

A move for Nikola Kalinic has stalled (thankfully!) as we don't seem willing to match Fiorentina's €30m valuation.
 
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