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jMz

I beg your pardon?
I think he means to use the second player press (Square) while you are jockeying (R2) on the wing with your controlled player. It works with CPU opposition, but humans are likely to just run past while you are covering. If you bring the second player in while you are covering, the angles should be covered and he'll have nowhere to go.
Man Utd are hard work in the right hands. You could always try to sit deep and counter attack, thus meaning they would have to come to you. This relies on your defensive skills though. And of course, your ability to implement said counter attack.
 

paultrickle

Registered User
I think he means to use the second player press (Square) while you are jockeying (R2) on the wing with your controlled player. It works with CPU opposition, but humans are likely to just run past while you are covering. If you bring the second player in while you are covering, the angles should be covered and he'll have nowhere to go.
Man Utd are hard work in the right hands. You could always try to sit deep and counter attack, thus meaning they would have to come to you. This relies on your defensive skills though. And of course, your ability to implement said counter attack.

JMZ: Do you recommend a 4-3-3 or a 3-5-2- formation using Barcelona against Manchester United played by human (not CPU) ?
Regards
 

jMz

I beg your pardon?
Either. I normally just use the default for Barca, and just swap one or two players. But a 3-5-2 could work, deep with 2 DMFs and wide men, it's hard for me to say what is good for someone I've never seen play.
 

Krishna

Registered User
This is one for those who like a back 4 with a difference.


I can't see nothing?

And the link don't work :(

Are these formations good for playing against human players? Or just computer?
 

D.Drogba

Registered User
wow it looks awesome but how do u do that arrow thing on the PC version
i can only do it on the PS2 version but not on my PC
 

weltact

Registered User
sorry for the double message but i would really like to know how to save strategy A and strategy B on PES 2009 XBOX
i dont know if its a bug but i copy my straetgy A and strategy B in their respective boxes and then go to save stock data and then the next time i load stock data and copy that formation to now in use square it only has that one, and the strategy A and B reverted to normal

i dont know, i think im doing everything right..could someone please tell me if this is a bug in the game or there is some unobvious trick

thanks a million!
 

A Gijgorev

New Member
Well, there hasn't been any formation posted in here for quite some time, but I still hope someone with decent knowledge can help me out a bit...

I'm playing PES5 since I don't like how the newer games look and play. Against the AI I'm doing pretty good, no matter what formation or team I use.

What I need: Two formations for a rather mediocre team, one for defending and getting the ball back (set to auto-defense) and one for a midfield supported all-out attack (set to auto-attack).

The reason for using two formations instead of three is that I'm playing on the keyboard and the manual switching is a little complicated for me. I'm playing a master league (******) with the kind of players that peak after like 6 or 8 seasons at about 85. No super stars or any of the likes of Babel and Park Chu Young and Farfan and so on. I'm also using the same team (with the initial player attributes) to play against a mate who usually takes Germany or other teams of similar strength.

Formation A:
I'm not bothering about counter attacks anymore. I don't need them against the AI, and when playing with my mate I don't want to play risky balls, since I want to deny him any goals (and if possible even any shots on goal) and thus have to keep possession as much as possible. Don't get me wrong though, I don't want a defensive formation per se. The initial formation should have 4 at the back and as much midfielders as possible while still posing a theoretical counter attacking threat, primarily for preventing enemy CB from joining the attack. The formation should be good at getting the ball back early in case of bad passing. However it shouldn't look overly defensive neither in the formation setup screen nor on the pitch.

Formation B:
Now this is where it gets interesting. I want something that I can switch to when I'm in possession and my mate has organized his defense, similar to jMz's 2-6-2 from page 7. However, my RB is only adept at this position, and since I want something asymmetrical anyway (only for formation B), I plan to leave him there. LB is also adept at LWB and LMF. Most players are only adept at one role, and I have no players that can play both DMF and either CB or SWP. The players that can play in multiple roles are:

SB - WB - SMF (left)
CMF - SMF - AMF (left)
SMF - AMF - WF (both)
WB - SMF - AMF - SS - WF (both) *
DMF - AMF - SS - WF - CF (both)
WF - CF (both)
DMF - CMF (both)

The player marked with the asterisk (no. 8) is pretty much the star of my team. Although small and not very fast, he has a deadly cross and is good at taking free kicks up to 35 yards. He also has great stamina, teamwork and mentality attributes.
To confuse my mate and hopefully thwart all man marking attempts, I want my players to swap positions and sides as much as possible with these two formations. For example, I thought about having my star initially play LMF, and at formation B he changes to RWF while the former LB takes his old position. Also, CF (1 or 2?) from formation A should maybe drop to midfield position(s) or to opposite wing(s).
Regarding defense and enemy counterattacks: I'm pretty good at defending, however I really want to win without conceding any goals. Would it make sense to have two CB and one RB on "back line: C", like this?



To sum up, my questions are:
- What formations should I use for A and B?
- What defensive and attacking arrows should I assign? I still don't get what exactly those do. Also, should I assign any arrows to my GK?
- Which team strategies and defence system should I choose?
- Which three semi-automatic strategies should I choose?
- What penalties do I get when I assign players to positions they aren't adept at? Are they negligible?
- What exactly is the teamwork attribute responsible for?


Any kind of help is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!
 

jMz

I beg your pardon?
its really not great sharing :s lol.. they're all REALLY old formations for the old PES's! :s lol

So just because they are old posts that means it's not a great share any more? I think a few people have found the info useful, and if you have a few brain cells to rub together it's quite easy to translate them in to the newer PES games. If you can't figure it out you don't deserve them.
Besides, if you read the thread properly, my intention was to highlight the fact that you could use multiple formations without pausing, not to actually tell you exactly what formations to use. I could never do that because everyone has a different style of play.
I personally think it was a great share. An if it has helped just 1 player to improve his game then it was worth the time it took to post it.
If you want to be a sheep and blindly copy what I have posted, then fine, but I suggest you digest the idea and come up with your own stuff. That is the point of this thread.

As for "great shares" what exactly have you contributed to the forum?

Soapbox put away now. It just annoys me that people can slate hours of work with a badly punctuated post that took seconds to scrawl.
You don't like it, do better yourself. Everyone's a critic.
 

Pro P.I.M.P

Registered User
You have certainly helped me improve my game, I just wished people had the same passion for PES tactics and formations but it just hasn't been the same since PES6. Probably not helped by the fact that the new tactics/formation system is rubbish.
 
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maya

Registered User
jMz -->

i think that this thread is one of the best ever!!!
Don't get me wrong, but i think also that it is a really shame that nothing is happen here from some time.

We have to do something to move this thread on...again.
 

rodrigo_bob

Registered User
in game, when I press the buttons, the tactics don't change..
is becouse the auto-coach is activate? I can off then?
 
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