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Ai in demo much better...!?

Yi-Long

Registered User
Played the demo for 2017 A LOT, absolutely loved it, great defensive AI by the CPU, closing you down all the time, just making it very difficult for you to get through and create chances. Played on Top Player, and it was always a good challenge to get a result, and you'd feel proud of that result, because of how hard you had to work for it.

Picked up PES2017 first thing this morning. Played the first match, won 4-1, with relative ease. OK, maybe I'm having a good day.

But I kept winning matches, and just now I just took a completely crap team like ADO Den Haag and easily defeated Arsenal, while also still missing chances (nr 1 striker was actually benched due to the Live Update), and you just create chance after chance after chance. I'm playing on Top Player with ADO against Arsenal and it's just ridiculously easy to win.

This is hugely disappointing, because I only play SP, and while the AI in the demo was tremendous and just lots of fun to play against, this is not.

I can't be alone in noticing the vast difference in difficulty between the demo and the retail-release. What happened!? And why didn't they just stick to that AI which was so great in the demo...?
 

madsis44

Registered User
Feel excatly the same! Played on Top Player in the demo, and the matches were always close. Could win some, could loose some. Yesterday when i got the game my first match were PSG-Lyon, and the difficulity set to Super Star. I won the game fucking 6-0! Havent played more after that, hope it was a one time incident, lol.
 

Yi-Long

Registered User
Yeah, very weird.

I did play 2 matches on Super Star just now (Barca vs MD White (Madrid), and those did feel like the games I played in the demo, with good AI by the opposing team, so seems a bit weird. Perhaps you need to restart the game in order for the new difficulty settings to actually come in effect or something.

Never been so happy to lose 2 matches (both 0-1).
 

Yi-Long

Registered User
Seems to be OK now. Played a bunch of matches on Top Player and seems it's settled back to normal, meaning it's challenging and as it should be. Weird, but very relieved as well.
 

geeeeee

Registered User
Do you think it may have something to do with the adaptive AI? When you first play it is easy but then the AI works out the way you play and plays differently making it harder.
 

Yi-Long

Registered User
Do you think it may have something to do with the adaptive AI? When you first play it is easy but then the AI works out the way you play and plays differently making it harder.

No, I really doubt it. I mean, I immediately started on Top Player, and it was just EASY. I don't mean that in a way that I brag about how great I am, cause I know I'm pretty mediocre, but I loved that challenge in the demo, and now I had that setting and basically defenders just backed off from me (I could watch the replay and was just surprised by the behaviour of the defenders, just keeping away for no good reason), and almost every duel went my way, etc etc. It was just as if I had picked Top Player, but the game hadn't actually recognized that change in setting (even though the menu clearly stated I had selected it, cause obviously I checked a few times)

Right now though, it seems to be fine. Haven't played today yet (kinda want to implement an Option File first), but after I had changed to Super Star it felt like Top Player, and after a few matches it suddenly seemed to change again and I was completely butchered by Liverpool when I was playing as Arsenal, so I toned down the difficulty back to Top Player, and NOW it really seems to play as the Top Player level in the demo.

I'm just happy it has seemed to fix itself, and I also have no idea what was wrong, but it really didn't have to do with adaptive AI, I think.
 
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