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Awful gameplay after 5.11 update in SIM-mode Divisions.

Vasbor70

Registered User
Hey, Konami, not shure you have ever read this forum, but looks like your 5.11 update has successfully ruined SIM-mode.
For example, I have well balanced squad (OVR - 80-84/88, team spirit 97-99, personal levels of players around lvl.40++), manager: V. Del Bosque.
Before the update, this squad was OK to get, at least, 60 points after 25 SIM-matches in Division 1/2.
After the update, the same squad under same manager is OK to get (wait a minute!) 24 +- POINTS in 25 matches.
Typical results of 10 games is 1-2 draws, 1 win and run of 7-8 defeats ( even if opponent team was a bunch of OVR 63 with 45lvl team spirit).
Gameplay after the update looks awfully slow and laggy and the team just doesn't performing - SB's (OVR 80+) losing the ball in front of own box like they are vegetables , midfielders doing some idiotical moves and back passes, freezing and easily giving the ball away, strikers missing the target or hitting the posts from 6 yard box, like they playing football for a first time in their life.

Btw, 8 of 10 defeats has absolutely the same scripting:
Wide left, wide right, hit the right & left post from scoring position...."Oooohh, unlucky this time".
Then, your beloved Neymar (or some OVR63 bullsh**t) easily running through flank, midfield and defence ( and defenders, of course, running away from him like bunch of donkeys.And yes, I know what is "man-marking" means.) and scoring late winner.
Just take a look at this goal, do you think football really looks like this, eh???
https://youtu.be/WkkCFJiLiiU

After the update, 8 of 10 opponent goals looks like this, or even worse.

Your contract system is sucks too. I'm always (may I repeat - ALWAYS) checking how many games starting 11 + bench players has before their contracts will expired. And regularly has the same situation: Player has 2-3-4 matches in his contract, then he playing one game and his contract expire.
Other side of this situation: Player has 1 game before contract expire, I'm spending GP'S to sign new contract in advance, and after it shows he has 11 games.Then he playing 1 match and......what?! his contract expire with no any GP's refund.

OK-ok, you was ruining online mode for a couple of years. I remember the times of PES2011-Online , it wasn't the best, but it was at least playable, including manual mode.
Your PES2016 Online is just unplayable and its nowhere near to be called "football". Have you ever tried to create Pro Evolution Rugby serie? I think you definitely should try it.
And yes, I agree with people, who talking the game with such a awful online-mode should be banned in PSN. Go to create PES for smartphones and ipads - its cheaper in creating process, doesn't need good servers for online mode, and more easy to cheat people there to buy game coins.
P.S: Jeez, why I didn't purchase this game on a disk, like all normal :D people doing? At least, there is would be possibility to trade it away for a half-price.
But no, I purchased it in digital version, also "20th Anniversary edition" - just because this game wasn't really bad 4-5 or 10 years ago.
And what I'd get for my 10 USD of extra-money? Hell yeahh:w00t , I'd get virtual Neymar for a 10 matches LOAN of unplayable online-mode.

Such a bulls**t, Konami.
 

SportGameFan

Registered User
The sad thing is, they don't seem to care, they have too many blinded fans who make excuses for the poor gameplay. The series will never get better until people vote with their wallets and stop buying the game until it improves!
 

Vasbor70

Registered User
The sad thing is, they don't seem to care, they have too many blinded fans who make excuses for the poor gameplay. The series will never get better until people vote with their wallets and stop buying the game until it improves!

Tbh, I don't think Konami has got really enough of money from this game for a last couple of years.
The game sells worse and worse every year, all pes-forums around the net looks more and more empty. They are losing customers aswel as "fans". So, looks like PES-serie is slowly rolling down to hell...Or to be available only at mobile platforms.
This is why Konami won't to listen anybody, or to invest any serious money in new programmers, ideas, good servers for online, but they keep improving "game coins" system - this is their last chance to grab a bit more of money from kids pockets before they will shut this holy cow.
The game still looks like it has been created 4-5 years ago for PS3. The only difference in "better ball physics" and Online-Menu looks like a Windows Phone. And it just not good enough for PS4 in 2015.

P.S: Just a funny :) moment:
I was trying Konami's "Best of October" agent 3 times, at least. 3 spins - 3 players and and 2 of them is in poor/blue conditions.
Hey, Konami, what about "Worst of October" special agent?
 

SportGameFan

Registered User
I think you're right, it certainly does seem that way; they are just altering little parts of the game, and extracting money from kid's pockets (really their parents') through the 'MyClub' mode.

Konami have streamlined (shrunk) their operations, and PES will either die slowly, or be sold/franchised to another software house. If it wasn't for the 'game coins', there would probably be no more PES. I believe that mode is heavily scripted- designed to extort money from kids- disgusting!

They ignore their customers, and are really pretty passive-aggressive with their update information i.e. they ignore the goalkeeping, scripting, and refereeing issues. They are a very cheap company, PES 2016 has the worst scripting I have encountered in a football game, and I have played many iterations of FIFA through the years (although I'm really enjoying the Career Mode in FIFA 16)!

It's like PES 2008 (PS3) with a new 'coat of paint.' I remember how disappointed I was with that game, and this ranks along side that level of disappointment. Then on top of all that, Amman 'Adam' Bhatti- could they have picked a worse representative of a company that was once highly respected?

What a bunch of amateurs!
 
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