shaun7
Registered User
Yeah, I scored a hat trick and my rating was 7.5. In this game, good ratings are not based on goals, but on how your team dominated and how you stood out.
BAL MODE - How to get good ratings - idea's thread
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Yeah, I scored a hat trick and my rating was 7.5. In this game, good ratings are not based on goals, but on how your team dominated and how you stood out.
sandaweches
Registered User
I don't think the rating is related strictly to number of goals, etc..
I think it depends on how you play overall. The times I was running around and creating passes and gaining possession I got ratings of 7.5. Once I had a goal and two shots on goal and i got 8. But I think what's important is HOW and WHEN the goal was scored. That is how important was it to the game and when was it scored. If our team is winning 3-0 and I score the 4th goal this should have less impact as if we were losing and I score the equalizer or even the winning goal.
Also I think there is a score that we don't see which is related to how we are involved in creating nice football plays that either ends up in a goal or a shot on goal.
Didn't BAL online have a scoring/rating for nice plays? I never tried online BAL but i thought I saw something in promo clips.
Maybe that's how most of the scoring is done?
Anyone with online BAL experience?
I think it depends on how you play overall. The times I was running around and creating passes and gaining possession I got ratings of 7.5. Once I had a goal and two shots on goal and i got 8. But I think what's important is HOW and WHEN the goal was scored. That is how important was it to the game and when was it scored. If our team is winning 3-0 and I score the 4th goal this should have less impact as if we were losing and I score the equalizer or even the winning goal.
Also I think there is a score that we don't see which is related to how we are involved in creating nice football plays that either ends up in a goal or a shot on goal.
Didn't BAL online have a scoring/rating for nice plays? I never tried online BAL but i thought I saw something in promo clips.
Maybe that's how most of the scoring is done?
Anyone with online BAL experience?
I agree with you.
And also I think agressive playing is rewarded by the game's rating system. Creating passes like through passes to strikers, crosses and shots on goal are more important than playing in the middle of the field. Interception is the one and only exception but also think that it is not very necessary for a good rating.
I played with this formula in my last season (9th) and the result is very satisfying. My club average rating is 7.46 in 13 weeks and national average rating is 7.83 in 3 matches.
Only 1 asist, 2 intercepts and 14 successful passes. But a 8.0 rating. Because those passes was made by crosses or aggressive through balls and shots were 1-on-1.Yes, it sounds ridiculous but involving to the game in aggressive means is more important than scoring a couple goals.
hmm... Maybe you are right. Maybe distance dribbled is effective on my rating. But I don't think it is just enough for a 8.0 rating.
hulkamaphone
Registered User
I've found that the distance dribbled affects my overall rating quite a bit. No matter how many goals/assists/passes/interceptions I've had, if I haven't dribbled the ball for long, I will only get a 7.5 rating maximum.
Also, generally running your guts out (ie getting back on defense) will contribute to a higher rating as well I've found. I play as an AMF so maybe this effects my player a bit more than forwards, but definately covering a lot of the pitch helps give me a higher rating (even when I don't score or set up assists). I play very aggressive to, especially playing through balls to the forwards, so that all helps to the rating.
Also, generally running your guts out (ie getting back on defense) will contribute to a higher rating as well I've found. I play as an AMF so maybe this effects my player a bit more than forwards, but definately covering a lot of the pitch helps give me a higher rating (even when I don't score or set up assists). I play very aggressive to, especially playing through balls to the forwards, so that all helps to the rating.
I'll second that. I too play as a AMF. Even with a goal and/or assist my rating varies from 6 to 7.5. But After continuously running up and down the pitch (not neccesarily winning the ball, just tracking player runs) dribbling with the ball more often. Did in fact result in a better rating. I'd say minimum 6.5 and max 7.5 (This is w/o scoring or assisting).
Superbeard
Registered User
Completely agree with the poster that says it's easier to get higher ratings in International matches. I got a 7.5 yesterday when I thought I had a shocker - had a yellow card and didn't contribute to much at all team wise. I also find it much easier to get 8.0's too - my average rating is 7.67 after 6 games, and I'm telling you that I haven't played that well.
Ffs ... i prolly don't know how to upload a picture on here ... tried it so many times just keeps failing. Anyways, I will type it down.
I have been playing BAL scout match over 50 times now. Only aim is to try and get rating above 8.
I used the follwing:
Player Body Type : a bit bulky
Match time : 15min
Mode: Top player.
Right, as usual my first few matches were disaster, was trying to understand the game. Then realised playing as a team member was not going to make the cut, I have to be a one man team to make my team get somewhere.
Anyhow, played quite a few games and Rating ranging from 5.5 to 7.5
But yesterday I played a game I got 8 (the highest I have got)
Scored a goal
An Assist
Shots on target 1(1) the only shot the whole game yes (top player) is a pain.
Passes 24(18)
Fouls 2(1)
Intercepts 2
touches 34
dribble 342
In the excitement I forgot to take snapshot. now talking about area of play is most in the opposition section came back just once or twice for the ball. Won by 2-1. Now I thought it was going to be a crap rating but I was surprised with 8. The player in the season had amazing stats. a few 80s and most 70s free kick was 60s.
Then I played another because I hadn't achieved what I wanted, rating ABOVE 8.
This time, I ruled the game. It was I would say the best match I ever had, for my team that is.
Match ended 7-0 to us ... checked out the rating, DISASTER.
I was expecting 8.5 or 9 but I got 7...SEVEN!?
Goals 3
Assists 3
Shots 5(4)
Passes 30(25)
Intercepts 4
Touches 42
Dribble 505
Area of play, pretty much the same as the old one.
Clearly, stats in this match are way better than the previous one. In all aspect of the game I dominated in this match compared to the previous one. But very disappointed with the rating I got.
I have the picture but I don't know how to upload it. Tried it kept failing, meets the requirements as well =/
Anyways, I have no idea how this rating system works. But that's for sure I am not interested in playing anymore of BAL. It's not easy playing on the keybaord on top player. Gave everything I had on that match and got poo in the end.
Ain't gonna play BAL till the rating system is a bit more transparent.
Happy playing exhibitions with my mates.
I have been playing BAL scout match over 50 times now. Only aim is to try and get rating above 8.
I used the follwing:
Player Body Type : a bit bulky
Match time : 15min
Mode: Top player.
Right, as usual my first few matches were disaster, was trying to understand the game. Then realised playing as a team member was not going to make the cut, I have to be a one man team to make my team get somewhere.
Anyhow, played quite a few games and Rating ranging from 5.5 to 7.5
But yesterday I played a game I got 8 (the highest I have got)
Scored a goal
An Assist
Shots on target 1(1) the only shot the whole game yes (top player) is a pain.
Passes 24(18)
Fouls 2(1)
Intercepts 2
touches 34
dribble 342
In the excitement I forgot to take snapshot. now talking about area of play is most in the opposition section came back just once or twice for the ball. Won by 2-1. Now I thought it was going to be a crap rating but I was surprised with 8. The player in the season had amazing stats. a few 80s and most 70s free kick was 60s.
Then I played another because I hadn't achieved what I wanted, rating ABOVE 8.
This time, I ruled the game. It was I would say the best match I ever had, for my team that is.
Match ended 7-0 to us ... checked out the rating, DISASTER.
I was expecting 8.5 or 9 but I got 7...SEVEN!?
Goals 3
Assists 3
Shots 5(4)
Passes 30(25)
Intercepts 4
Touches 42
Dribble 505
Area of play, pretty much the same as the old one.
Clearly, stats in this match are way better than the previous one. In all aspect of the game I dominated in this match compared to the previous one. But very disappointed with the rating I got.
I have the picture but I don't know how to upload it. Tried it kept failing, meets the requirements as well =/
Anyways, I have no idea how this rating system works. But that's for sure I am not interested in playing anymore of BAL. It's not easy playing on the keybaord on top player. Gave everything I had on that match and got poo in the end.
Ain't gonna play BAL till the rating system is a bit more transparent.
Happy playing exhibitions with my mates.
iamcanadianeh
Registered User
^ Yeah. That's what I'm talking about... But, still, that's why we're on here discussing it, hoping that someone might "crack the code."
One thing I noticed that actually impressed me about the rating system is that it seems to be able to tell when you are involved with a goal, but not necessarily scoring or assisting. Maybe it's not the case, but yesterday I had two goals which were scored that I didn't get assists on, but which I contributed to (like, I took a shot and the rebound was put in, or got a "second assist" as in hockey). Even though the rest of my stats for the game were relatively poor, and got no goals or assists I ended up with a 7.0 and Man of the Match award. This kind of helps support the theory that the ratings might be linked to a hidden point system similar to what in the Legends online mode.
One thing I noticed that actually impressed me about the rating system is that it seems to be able to tell when you are involved with a goal, but not necessarily scoring or assisting. Maybe it's not the case, but yesterday I had two goals which were scored that I didn't get assists on, but which I contributed to (like, I took a shot and the rebound was put in, or got a "second assist" as in hockey). Even though the rest of my stats for the game were relatively poor, and got no goals or assists I ended up with a 7.0 and Man of the Match award. This kind of helps support the theory that the ratings might be linked to a hidden point system similar to what in the Legends online mode.
this might be stating the obvious, but when you are starting a game in BAL, the shorter the period of time you play the more likely your ratings will suffer as the rating system doesn't calculate your impact in the game and your stats with relation to your time on the field. In other words your rating will be based on 90 minutes. The only exception is if you come on as a sub. So i believe in view of this, building your stamina up is priority when you begin your become a legend career, unless your stamina is about 85 or over. I've noticed that if your stamina is above 85 the chances are you'll play approx 80 minutes or more, thus giving you a better chance to make more touches on the ball, more shots and interceptions etc..and consequently a better rating
iamcanadianeh
Registered User
That might explain a lot. I assumed that since it is able to calculate your impact in a match when you are a sub based on time played, that it was doing the same when you got subbed out after, say 70 or more minutes. Stamina's at 83 now, so I'll try to get it up past 85...
iamcanadianeh
Registered User
^Just to be clear, I'm also doing quite well (and playing at Newcastle myself btw). I'm not so much concerned with trying to get better ratings... Just trying to understand how they work. I have to say though, that with regards to the suggestion about stamina, it's true I think that your ratings are based on an assumed 90 minutes even if you get subbed after 70, but trying to play without using as much stamina isn't a good idea either. You have to go hard in order to make an impact on the game, and that means using more stamina. So, I think a stamina rating of more like 90 might be needed for the suggestion by Benny400 to really work well, unless the jump from 84 to 85 is really significant of course... We'll see, as I'm at 84 right now with 6 strengthen points on stamina.
If I can add my own 2 cents worth as this has been very frustrating for me also.
I have tried my own little experiments and also tried various ideas suggested in this thread.
I once asked a local coach, who coaches at quite a high level in Australia, what is the difference between players at the semi-professional level he coaches and ones playing for the top league here.
He suggested power, strength, pace but he said most importantly, if you watch good players at the highest level, they very rarely give the ball away cheaply.
So this is how i've been trying to play in BAL. Playing as a striker of course it's very important firstly to get shots on goal, score goals and get assists if possible.
Lots of touches on the ball and a high completion rate is nice too. But above anything i've been trying to NEVER give the ball away cheaply.
Aside from trying the odd penetrative through ball or cross when appropriate. Or taking on opponents when appropriate.
At the end of games i've been looking at my touches on the ball and doing the maths in regard to passes, shots etc, to get an idea of how many times i've given the ball away.
I've found that when the amount of passes, shots etc i've attempted is up near the same number of touches i've made i.e. I haven't given the ball away too often, I seem to be getting quite consistant ratings.
I'll continue to test this out but it seems to be a way forward, for me at least based on the poor ratings i've been getting when even though I feel like i've had a good game.
Just as a side note - I do feel like that area covered diagram at the end of the game is in some way signifigant also. I don't see it being there for any other reason? It makes sense that it is to show you how well your positional play has been in terms of your role in the team.
I have tried my own little experiments and also tried various ideas suggested in this thread.
I once asked a local coach, who coaches at quite a high level in Australia, what is the difference between players at the semi-professional level he coaches and ones playing for the top league here.
He suggested power, strength, pace but he said most importantly, if you watch good players at the highest level, they very rarely give the ball away cheaply.
So this is how i've been trying to play in BAL. Playing as a striker of course it's very important firstly to get shots on goal, score goals and get assists if possible.
Lots of touches on the ball and a high completion rate is nice too. But above anything i've been trying to NEVER give the ball away cheaply.
Aside from trying the odd penetrative through ball or cross when appropriate. Or taking on opponents when appropriate.
At the end of games i've been looking at my touches on the ball and doing the maths in regard to passes, shots etc, to get an idea of how many times i've given the ball away.
I've found that when the amount of passes, shots etc i've attempted is up near the same number of touches i've made i.e. I haven't given the ball away too often, I seem to be getting quite consistant ratings.
I'll continue to test this out but it seems to be a way forward, for me at least based on the poor ratings i've been getting when even though I feel like i've had a good game.
Just as a side note - I do feel like that area covered diagram at the end of the game is in some way signifigant also. I don't see it being there for any other reason? It makes sense that it is to show you how well your positional play has been in terms of your role in the team.
I think your right that giving the ball away is not great for your ratings, however I’m a CM on top player and i have noticed that on many occasions that i have had about 40 passes and around 32 or 33 completed, as long as I have had a few shots, ten interceptions or more (15 min games) and over 60 touches on the ball i have had quite a few 7.5 ratings with approx 7 incomplete passes. This is even without getting an assist or goal.
My average rating after 6 years is 7.04, and as a CM the most important thing I’ve found is to be involved in the game a lot, and get many touches. Lots of interceptions and tackles will drastically help, as well as passes, but do not be too afraid to try through balls when appropriate. Wats the point in playing if you don’t do it. (not saying you think this Vidooka!)
But to get a 7.0 to 7.5 rating you really need to have a some shots (preferably on target) as well as all of the above. To get an 8.0, which I’ve have had about four times in 6 years (lol) you need A LOT of everything above and a goal or assist, or both or more (depending on the rest of your stats)….
…and I’m positive that the area of play map has no contribution to your rating, it is just there for your interest, that’s all.
My average rating after 6 years is 7.04, and as a CM the most important thing I’ve found is to be involved in the game a lot, and get many touches. Lots of interceptions and tackles will drastically help, as well as passes, but do not be too afraid to try through balls when appropriate. Wats the point in playing if you don’t do it. (not saying you think this Vidooka!)
But to get a 7.0 to 7.5 rating you really need to have a some shots (preferably on target) as well as all of the above. To get an 8.0, which I’ve have had about four times in 6 years (lol) you need A LOT of everything above and a goal or assist, or both or more (depending on the rest of your stats)….
…and I’m positive that the area of play map has no contribution to your rating, it is just there for your interest, that’s all.