BAL MODE - How to get good ratings - idea's thread

[Superbeard]

I'm a SS/CF, now mid way through my 7th season - always on top player and 10 minute matches. My average rating is now 7.25 (I'm top in the game, just overtook Totti!), though this has mainly been because since the 3rd season I've found it very easy to get really high ratings (well, lots of 7.5's and 8's!). For example this season I'm averaging 7.62 - it helps that I have 45 goals in 22 games!

My general style of play is lots of forward diagonal dribbling and dummies to beat the defenders, and get as many shots in as you can (with the majority on target). I score a lot of goals (on 375 or so after 340 games) and don't get many assists for that reason (have 34 total) - all my mates say I'm the most selfish player they have ever seen, but it works! Anyway, my advice to get the good ratings (esp if you're a CF or SS):

1) Get LOADS of shots in. I generally have about 10 shots a game, and will get about 75% on target. It seems to me that once you have more than 6 shots on target, it boosts your rating. If I reach the magic 6 on target, I often get 8 ratings (even without scoring).

2) I dribble. A lot. Most distance in a 10 minute match is 900+ dribbled. Again, this seemed to really boost the rating... Obviously it will help if the dribbles end in a shot or pass that hits the mark, I don't think it likes aimless dribbling.

3) Try to intercept as much as possible. It seems to me that anything over 4 intercepts for a CF is what it loves. My problem at the start was knowing how the game quanitified an intercept. I think (and it's only a theory) that it's when you block a pass and your team get the ball from that. Stealing it off a player doesn't count. I can't describe the amount of times I thought I had about 10 intercepts in a game, and then had none on the ratings. Just seems to be a bit of luck needed!

4) Be selfish. My best ratings come in games where I literally say "screw my team mates" and go on dribbles galore. This does take some skill though, especially with a slow rubbish player. I'm fortunate that the player I have now is very good, and it's easy to stay ahead of the defence once they have been beaten. Before, when he was shit, it took a lot of patience and fingers off the dash button!

 

[iamcanadianeh]

^ I agree, and it is actually sad that you need to play this way to get good ratings, but... It does work.

BTW - what are your stats like?

 

[Superbeard]

^ I agree, and it is actually sad that you need to play this way to get good ratings, but... It does work.

BTW - what are your stats like?

My stats are pretty good - I basically have always had 6 blocks on kicking which boosts the most stats. Then I've swapped a 6 block between dribbling, speed and balance from season to season. This is the first season that I have not had kicking on 6, I'm on 6 dribbling and balance in an attempt to get one more star (apparently you can only have 8 total). Anyway, here you go:

Attack 93
Defence 64
Balance 83
Stamina 85
Speed 89
Acceleration 80
Response 73
Dribble Acc 84
Dribble Speed 89
SP acc 93
SP speed 86
LP acc 89
LP speed 82
Shot acc 95
Shot Power 82
Shot Tech 92
FK acc 83
Swerve 86
Header 83
Jump 84
Technique 88
Teamwork 73

Special Abilities: Dribble, Tactical dribble, 1 on 1, scoring, penalties, shoot from distance, outside.

Bearing in mind I'm only 23, these stats rock. I'm trying to get post player, by getting teamwork up there, and I'm also improving dribbling. I find it a bit too easy, even on Top Player, with my chap nowadays. I mean, I'm averaging over 2 goals per game this season!

 

[shaun7]

^That's amazing. I'm am doing kicking at least 3 blocks. My player is 20 now. But still he's not developing that good. Maybe he will after another season.

 

[Superbeard]

^That's amazing. I'm am doing kicking at least 3 blocks. My player is 20 now. But still he's not developing that good. Maybe he will after another season.

Well, it's all about seasons 1, 2 and 4. That's when you fly up, and that's when I concentrated on dribbling (6 blocks most of the time) as that's the thing I like doing the most. I started on 62 dribble accuracy, so it's taken a real slog to get him up to there.

I admit that I have restarted games early on (mostly in the first two seasons) when I got ratings of 6.0 or lower, purely as they don't go up much with that. Now though, I just don't have to restart as I basically score at will. I also have good shooting stats because of the amount of goals that I have got.

It has massively helped that he's 205cm, as corners are basically park him at the near post and he gets his head on everything. Whether he scores or not is more down to luck, but I get a lot of shots that way.

 

[Vidooka]

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If I can add my own 2 cents worth as this has been very frustrating for me also.......

SNIP

Thanks for any replies to my post. I am in game so will read them later but just wanted to post a couple of my latest findings....

I have been playing on professional as a CF for Man City.

My main means of testing lately by method of play, besides from the obvious objectives for a striker of getting shots on target and/or getting assists...... has been to -

a) not give the ball away
b) get my area of play diagram at end of game to reflect what my positional play for current role in team should be.

My last game, started as an AMF.

Played 77 mins before being subbed and stats are as follows -

Goals - 1
Assists - 1
Shots - 5 (4) on target
Passes - 12 (11) made
Fouls - 1
Touches on ball - 19
Distance Dribbled - 155

(10 mins game)

RATING 6.5 ???


Now, considering I gave the ball away 4 times? depending on exactly how you do the maths, I would've thought that's a pretty good game.

I was expecting at least a 7, possibly an 8.

But looking at the numbers, perhaps I should be concentrating more on getting more involved in the game i.e. more touches on ball instead of worrying about how many times i've given it away.

My area of play was a little bit scattered, but mainly in central attacking positions or to the right, attacking.

I have been looking at the arrows in the line-up tactics, which have suggested to me to be making runs diagonally forward to the right in attack and directly back to a central midfield position in defense.

EDIT - just reading SuperBeards posts - I think I will try being a bit more selfish, going for many shots, lots of dribbles and try to get back for a few intercepts.

 

[benny400]

Vidooka-

I wouldn't worry too much about area of play mate. This will likely subtract from your overall game, and i'm sure it doesn't have any effect. All that matters are stats in the other areas. From the looks of it, you need far more touches on the ball. How long are your games? if 10 mins you'll need easily over thirty with quite a few shots (probably about 5), and if 15min then over 40 nearer 50 touches. the same goes for distance dribbled, i think it'll help you to get around 250 or so. how many intercepts did you have? as an AMF in a 10 min game, 5/6 intercepts and over can easily be the difference of 0.5 in the ratings.

with refference to distance dribbled, touches on the ball and intercepts, if you perform well in two of these areas your set up for a good rating. Many times i've played (as CM, 15 min) i have approx 5 to 8 passes incomplete (normally around 43/36), have had a couple of shots, but i've had over 10 intercepts and around 60 touches on the ball and its almost a guaranteed 7.0, with an assist or a goal its 7.5.

 

[iamcanadianeh]

I agree. Area of play doesn't matter much I don't think, in fact I create a lot of great chances for myself and others by being where I'm not supposed to be (I'm a right winger and often cut into the middle to wait for shooting chances or switch wings when the play is down that side and cause problems for the other team).

Your distance dribbled is low, as well as touches on the ball (for a 10 minute game) and from looking at those numbers I would expect a 7.0, but yeah, a 6.5 is the least you could get. The foul probably bumbed you down to a 6.5.

Also I find that giving the ball away isn't going to cause you big grief in terms of ratings if you are a forward. It's probably more important for meidfield players, but as a forward it doesn't help that much though it doesn't hurt either).

Play selfish. Unfortunately, it works.

 

[alonCFC]

another good way for getting 7.5 or 8 rating almost always- scoring ways:

1. score the only goals in the game- not only your team.

2. score with out asistance- score by a solo goal or shooting from distance- not by heading a cross.

3. the more, the better- score the only 2+ goals to secure the 7.5.

4. score the winning goal or- score the goal that evens the score (i dont remember how you call that goal).

5. do all of the above as a late subtitution.

 

[Vidooka]

Vidooka-

I wouldn't worry too much about area of play mate. This will likely subtract from your overall game, and i'm sure it doesn't have any effect. All that matters are stats in the other areas. From the looks of it, you need far more touches on the ball. How long are your games? if 10 mins you'll need easily over thirty with quite a few shots (probably about 5), and if 15min then over 40 nearer 50 touches. the same goes for distance dribbled, i think it'll help you to get around 250 or so. how many intercepts did you have? as an AMF in a 10 min game, 5/6 intercepts and over can easily be the difference of 0.5 in the ratings.

with refference to distance dribbled, touches on the ball and intercepts, if you perform well in two of these areas your set up for a good rating. Many times i've played (as CM, 15 min) i have approx 5 to 8 passes incomplete (normally around 43/36), have had a couple of shots, but i've had over 10 intercepts and around 60 touches on the ball and its almost a guaranteed 7.0, with an assist or a goal its 7.5.

Thanks for the replies. My games are 10mins and in that particular example I didn't have any intercepts.

Having had exactly the type of game I was trying to have it's clear that that particular style of play the i've been trying is not really condusive to getting high ratings.

After reading some more posts I was testing out a more selfish style of play and it seems to be working. I've been getting gradually higher ratings.

I think at the end of the day, you need to have a good all round game and excell in every area. Then you will get a good rating.

I think also important to remember one of the few hints the game actually gives you in regard to getting good ratings.

In one of the BAL game hints it asks you to carefully consider your role within the team.

I would agree with other posts in that i'm starting to doubt that playing in the correct areas of the pitch has any affect at all on rating.

If this is the case then I would assume that the game hint is referring to what you do during the game, not where you are.

In that, for defenders it's important to get interceptions. For supporting players it's important to get assists (among other things) and for attacking players important to be getting involved in attacking moves, getting shots on goal etc.

 

[shaun7]

I get high ratings when I'm involved in many highlights. The better your team plays, and the better you stand out, the more 7.5 or 8 you get. Your team has to play well too. Otherwise it's a 6.5 or 7. But if you keep dribbling and sore the only gola and your team was not doing good in the match and you stood out and scored the winning gola then it's a 7.5.

 

[benny400]

I get high ratings when I'm involved in many highlights. The better your team plays, and the better you stand out, the more 7.5 or 8 you get. Your team has to play well too. Otherwise it's a 6.5 or 7. But if you keep dribbling and sore the only gola and your team was not doing good in the match and you stood out and scored the winning gola then it's a 7.5.

It's not true actually, your team doesn't have to play well. i have had many 7.5 ratings when we have drawn or lost, including one 8 rating and still lost. Its more down to your performance, the way your team performs doesn't matter at all.

 

[Vidooka]

I wonder if the official guide + dvd has any words of wisdom in regard to BAL.

I ordered it a couple of weeks back on ebay, so should be arriving anytime soon

 

[alonCFC]

I wonder if the official guide + dvd has any words of wisdom in regard to BAL.

I ordered it a couple of weeks back on ebay, so should be arriving anytime soon

i think you should have waited untill PES 2010 to see if it is good enough, and buy it then. PES 2009 is awful (for me atleast) so i didnt get it.

 

[shaun7]

It's not true actually, your team doesn't have to play well. i have had many 7.5 ratings when we have drawn or lost, including one 8 rating and still lost. Its more down to your performance, the way your team performs doesn't matter at all.

It is true. If your team gives a weak performance, there's no chance you'll get in control so a weak rating like 6.5 is given, BUT IF HOWEVER YOU GET IN CONTROL and you score 2 you'll get a 7.5 instantly.
You see the difference. Sometimes the game makes your player slow and heavy while your team is giving a weak performance. When that happens there's no chance you'll get a 7.
That's what I meant.

 

[benny400]

It is true. If your team gives a weak performance, there's no chance you'll get in control so a weak rating like 6.5 is given, BUT IF HOWEVER YOU GET IN CONTROL and you score 2 you'll get a 7.5 instantly.
You see the difference. Sometimes the game makes your player slow and heavy while your team is giving a weak performance. When that happens there's no chance you'll get a 7.
That's what I meant.

umm..but as i said, i have been on the losing side, we didn't score a goal and on many occasions i have got a 7.5. That completely contradicts your statement. do you see that. i'm not trying to be sarcastic.When you say about your player getting heavy, i haven't noticed that, but if its true i still get a decent rating. i've found that it is possible to play well yourself, be in control of your actions, lose, but still get a rating of 7 and above. i can't tell you how many 7.0 ratings i have got when still being on the losing side....

 

[Just!cE]

I have also gotten several 7.5 ratings while being on the losing side.

About your player being slow and heavy, I don't think this has anything to do with your team's performance. I have experienced this slow and heavy only when my BAL player has a blue or purple arrow. Personally, I can feel it when I send him dashing. It seems like he actually runs slower.

 

[benny400]

I have also gotten several 7.5 ratings while being on the losing side.

About your player being slow and heavy, I don't think this has anything to do with your team's performance. I have experienced this slow and heavy only when my BAL player has a blue or purple arrow. Personally, I can feel it when I send him dashing. It seems like he actually runs slower.

Yeh, the slow and heavy feeling will probably be your stamina.

 

[alonCFC]

I have also gotten several 7.5 ratings while being on the losing side.

About your player being slow and heavy, I don't think this has anything to do with your team's performance. I have experienced this slow and heavy only when my BAL player has a blue or purple arrow. Personally, I can feel it when I send him dashing. It seems like he actually runs slower.

the arrow is purple?? i always thought it was black...

 

[shaun7]

umm..but as i said, i have been on the losing side, we didn't score a goal and on many occasions i have got a 7.5. That completely contradicts your statement. do you see that. i'm not trying to be sarcastic.When you say about your player getting heavy, i haven't noticed that, but if its true i still get a decent rating. i've found that it is possible to play well yourself, be in control of your actions, lose, but still get a rating of 7 and above. i can't tell you how many 7.0 ratings i have got when still being on the losing side....

I'm talking from experience. I've experinced what I said. If I got more shots on target rather than only the goal and my team looses, I'll get a 7.5. But if my team is loosing and I score the goal and didn't shhot or pass (no involvment in the match) I get a 6.5. It makes sense to me. I gues it all depends on the involvment. You need to be involved in almost every attack your team makes. I think that's the trick.
Now I got a 6.5 sometimes (because of what I said in the other post). I felt I was cheated. Maybe the game did cheat. But I said that because it happened to me.
I didn't say that your player is sometimes slow only when your team is not playing well. I said that I usually get a 6.5 when my player is slow and my team is not giving a good performance. Now it's back to the involvment in the match. When this happens (player is slow and tem is not doing well) you won't be involved much in the match so a 6.5 but however if you manage to get some shots on target then it's a 7.