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Become a legend/ what konami could fix/improve/add?

yen21

Registered User
Some dudes saying that the salary we earn should be allowed to buy some training program to improve our stats. Good point. But i m thinking that why dun Konami allow us to use salary to buy some stat-improving boots which is basically almost the concept of training program. Imagine that u can only wear the best boot only when you earn the highest salary in the game? sense of achievement man
 

yen21

Registered User
I got ur point, Zanteive. But I still think Konami almost did it right. Player needs to be paid based more in his performance. But the point system in game is crap imo. 5000 pts to balance the value of players is too little. In example: Ronaldinho transfer to Milan last season. If he has got to Milan 2, 3 years ago, Barcelona would problably get much more money from Milan, because he was on his top performance that time. But he was transfered in a low performance situation, so Milan paid much less. So did Chelsea with Deco. And if you take a look at Master League, you will see that you will get your players with more or less points basing on their performances, and you will get transfer requests on your players based on this points. So it is on BAL.

Another thing is that you took age in the point. The game got a good relation on player hability over age. But that is not enough. Physical stats should act more on players, I think. The way you start a BAL sucks. How a boy with 17 years old, training, get's physical stats that low? I know he is just starting, but if you see any under 20 team base, the guys will have good fitness, great acceleration and speed, but will be on evolution on strenght and tecnique. I think they should take a look at this aspects, and should be good to have some "points to spend" in the creation of player, based on his height and weight. Like a new Huntelaar, ie. Tall, strong, striker. So he should be good on heading, low speed, good body balance... something like this.

Well, enough of typing :D

Sorry for my poor english... is a bit hard to write correctly being Brazilian. cya

I like your idea about the physical fitness about the player. I think if they want to be more realistic, the weight/height ratio should be a consideration to decide the physical fitness of a particular player. You expect Berbatov is as fast as Walcott? Konami should start thinking that there is limited room for development in certain attributes of player. If not, most people will aim at speed demon type of players, with extremely great strength and all as skillful as Messi and C.Ronaldo. Sometimes limitation in players' ability can create uniqueness and adds challenges to us when making a new player.
 

osfp1

Registered User
It has probably been said before, but PLEASE, let me choose ANY CLUB I want in Become a legend. Do not force me to pick from a pre-determined list. This was a BIG reason why I sold PES2010 shortly after buying it.

Please, and Thank you Seabass and associates
 

UKJ

Registered User
I think there needs to be some sort of player/manager interaction. For example I just started my first BAL, creating a left sided WF. Signed for villa where I'm now a first team regular but I'm constantly being played as either a FW or a RMF. There should be an option to approach the manager voicing your concern (the same way players are unhappy in ML) and demand that you are played in your preferred position and if your demands aren't recieved ou should be able to hand in a transfer request.

Transfers are unrealistic too, tottenham hotspur signed Rooney on mine and barca sign marlin harewood :S

I love the mode but I'm concerned about my players improvement because at the end of my first season my overall rating is still on 62 so I'm not too sure whether that's normal or whether my player is crap and going wrong somewhere so it would be nice for there to be some kind of info on how you should be progressing other than the learning curve which seems innacurate to me.

(sorry for any spelling errors I'm on my iPhone and I'm awful at typing on it :D )
 

Emmason

Registered User
For me the thing they MUST make better is the general rating system after the game. I mean for goodness sake, it's only really possible to get an 8/7.5 etc if you score goals or assist. That makes it useless to select DMF or CMF positions. When someone doesn't score or assist goals it doesn't mean they had a shit game. I played be a pro for like 5 matches, and it just pissed me off making no errors, passing at 100% completed to see my match rating being 6 or 6.5!

FIX IT KONAMI!

Also make the money you earn worth something, make it possible to buy training so that you can improve your stats. I do hope they make a LOT of additions and improvements.

You got it all wrong. ur rating gets higher if ur team WINS the match, not when u score a goal or give an assist. I play DMF, and once i scored 3 goals and the opposing team equalised!! i was given a rating of 6.5 . Another time, i gave passes 100% completed and a lot of intercepts, i did not score a goal but my team won the game. I was given a rating of 7.5
so i think ure wrong.
 

gonufc

Registered User
Two things that are absolute musts- Teammates AI (Man U amazing as opposition but when you join they lose all their talent) and training. I also think there should be alot more variety and opportunity to mould your player how you want as after a few BALs it all got a bit samey. I think the training drills should be like challenge training in older PES' eg. free kick training with the targets; also, it needs to be possible to earn all types of player cards. I'm sure there's lots more that i can't think of right now.
 

Carmi88

Registered User
PES needs to improve every aspect of the game, its fucking dreadful and is in dire need of an update to fix all of the problems, big fan of previous versions, but this one they certainly did a half arsed job
 

subotai33

New Member
What i hate about the BAL mode is that i do not have 100% control over my player.Why MUST he perform automated runs ?? At corners of opponent e.g. i want him outside of the box,but when i want to run there the player moves into the box.Same with own attacks.
Or sometimes when a teammate is attacking an opponent i want to leave some space between him and my player so that i am a possible pass receiver,but automatically my player turns into the tackling as well.

That's a thing which almost ruined a controller with last year's title already.
Why isn't it possible to give the player 100% control??
I don't want 80% or 95%,i want 100.

It's so disturbing...Passing advice can be turned off,so why can't you do the same with automated running?

Another point is the evaluation after the match.Often i have best mark of my team,get positive feedback from trainer but my reputation is decreasing?? I don't think that's sensible...

Though i must say you guys improved BAL a lot compared to last year.AI is way better,offense and defense.But some small improvements should be made,at least for next year's title.I don't know how much can be changed through patches.
 

jesmith29

Registered User
I totally agree with the 100% controll. It's so frustrating when your play takes off on his own.

I've only been playing BAL so far and the one issue that is driving me nuts is this.

I've played 17 games out of 27. In 10 of the games played, half of them, the FF option doesn't even show up and twice I've all of a sudden taken total control of my teammates. This has happened either starting on the bench or being subbed off.

Has anyone else run into this issue?

I play on the PS3 US version and I did the update to ver 1.01.

Whenever the FF option does not work, you also do not get the after match feedback from your manager. It goes straight to the results.

Konami please address this annoying bug in BAL.
 

Ugly

New Member
I would add some things to PES.
100% control of the player, meaning he won't run back for a ball which might go through a defensive line.
AI for transfers, because it's really weird to see Puyol playing in Real Madrid. This could be supported for BAL players with help from interviews where you can choose answers or simply a "profile" option, as to say, when you start, you have to put in your favorite team or teams and a number of inspirational players. This BAL option should help with transfers to desired teams.
Goalkeeper BAL.
Being able to actually spend your earnings on stuff. Luxuries can be fillers, but we can also enjoy better boots (Thanks, yen21), advertising campaigns (Popularity growth), better medical treatment for injuries and maybe partying and what not, just to add some spice to the "off the field" life.
Eligibility issues in transfers. For example, teams in Serie A can not have more than 3 non-EU players, and playing in Liga BBVA for 5 years would earn a player a Spanish passport. This becomes a complex problem if Kolpak ruling and the Cotonou agreement are taken into account.
BAL features asking for the ball and I think it would be a nice idea to also add an option for asking for a substitution and/or limiting your eligibility for a match, instead of letting that decision to be taken by the AI.
I might have some more ideas later~
 

the nameless

Registered User
I have an idea that would put a useless feature to good use. The photo gallery only lets you look at a small picture from a match, and mark it as a favourite. The photos should be high-res, saved to your hard drive, have the option to delete them if you dont like them, but most importantly, you should have the option to make them your in-game main menu wallpaper, instead of that stupid video of the worlds most annoying player (if you dont support Madrid) puffing his stupid cheeks out like a primadonna. Or if not that, let us take a snapshot from a replay (FIFA can) to save to our hard drives.

Maybe even add the option to use custom wallpapers in the PES shop.

Your BAL guy mid strike as your wallpaper, that would be cool. I hope KONAMI do actually look at these boards and do actualy impliment things from suggestions.

Also, please for the love of my sanity, dont force me to look at my stats after everything that happens. Most of the time they are the same as they were 10 minutes ago, when I was forced to look at them.
 

Jace_River

Registered User
U-20 selections, at least for the top teams... From every continent.
A really, REAL young team. Maybe called "Reserves" or "team B", just like the reality. This one must be playable in BAL and ML mode.
Leagues Supercups, like Copa del Rey winner against Liga BBVA winner.
Change team in ML mode, it's almost obligatory to include that in this version, and, if is posible, to train national teams.
In the BAL mode, the option to ask your teammates to kick a penalty or free kick, and the option to don't kick (if you're the predeterminated player).
Be the captain in BAL is just a nice band in the arm? Why we can't talk with the coach? Or the club boss? Or our teammates? Or, maybe, take autority in the strategy, I mean, the option of "suggest changes" to the coach in the middle of the match.
No more predeterminated team in BAL, we want choose it like PES 2011... But with more options! At least 2 from each league!
 

veryshop

New Member
Well, this doesn't affect me as i don't do any RWT, but it does seem like Jagex is finding any excuse to stop RWT sites. This "image copyright" is probably just a front to stop the RWT, as I don't think Jagex have said anything about this to other, non-RWT sites.Bill Levkoff Bridesmaid Dresses
 

metsuri69

Registered User
Master League

To Pes 13 ML, add individual training focus on top of the current Team training focus

Hello!

As in Pes 12 Master League the training was changed to whole team training instead of player focused training from Pes 11. I'd like to see a possibility in Pes 13 to have a team training + focus on each individual player training..

This because it's a bit dumb that for instance a goalkeeper would train the exact same things as other team and neglecting his goalkeeper training.

Add a possibility to have universal training + individual. For instance to player, Physical + Speed. Physical being something which all players train, and to add up THIS particular player trains also Speed.


Bring back Scouting of Pes 11 to Pes 12

I'm really confused that why to Pes 12 the good working scouting system of Pes 11 was removed.

It was really interesting and good feature that in Pes 11 you had to add players to your scouting list and according to your scout level you would get information of the scouted players.

It really puzzles me why it was removed of Pes 12 as it was fully working feature. Please bring this back, it brought joy to scouting and finding talent.

Thanks, and I'm very happy if anyone takes a note of this :)
 

Smithies

Registered User
i personally think they should improve the control you posess while not on the ball in BAL, rather than having to press R2 twice to call for a pass, you should be able to press X to call for direct, triangle to call for through ball, L1 and triangle for over the top through ball. Basically the same buttons you use to make the passes should be the same to call for them.

Also, in all game modes, your player should only side foot a shot if you press R2, a lot of players in real life when 1 on 1 will drill a shot past the keeper, but on Pes if you tap shoot in the box he side foots it. This would bring more use of the 'finesse shot' button cause i NEVER use it now because you're usually worst off if you do
 

GunnerJ

New Member
I've always thought BAL could become something a lot more than it is at the moment. The mode seems neglected and in need of variation and depth, so here's what I think:

1 - More interaction with the manager: I'd like to be able to tell him I'm not happy with the lack of first team football, if I'm being played out of position or if I think I deserve a new contract.

2 - I'd like to be able to hand in a transfer request, it just feels more realistic to me than picking what club I want to come and buy me.

3 - More interaction with the media and fans: I'd like to see transfer rumors arise and be able to either deny or confirm them/see rumors about my future at the club if i miss a few games/express my happiness or displeasure with the club if the club sells a key player or if their is a lack of squad investment. I would also like to see the comments I make influence how the fans respond to me on the pitch. So, if I've said I wanted to leave/made a fuss and handed in a transfer request I could be booed every time I'm on the ball (whilst playing for them, and against them in the future). Conversely if I'm the star man the crowd should come to life more.

4 - I'd like each player to have a loyalty stat or a preferred club list. It really irks me when I see Xavi move to Real Madrid, Fabregas move to Totenham etc. I can't stand unrealistic transfers like that. Clubs should also have transfer budgets so you don't get £50+million deals happening so often. The transfer activity setting just doesn't work well enough at creating a realistic transfer window.

5 - I'd like to see clubs butter you up in the media, like Madrid did with Bale.

6 - I'd like your own club to actually put up a fight if they want to keep you. Rather than accepting offer by default

7 - contracts which are realistic: How about negotiating a release fee clause? Just in case you don't want the club getting in the way of a big money move one day.

I must admit, I am quite dissapointed that BAL has virtually stayed the same for so many years now. I think there's more potential to the mode than playing games and moving clubs when you feel like.
 

MisterUmar

Registered User
konami should fix the edit mode cause all players without real faces are the same. 80% of them are like brothers and cousins, so if its dificult to have for each player his real face give us more options to edit mode to make them urselves...
I have been experiencing the same mate and I think a lot of improvements needed on that.
 

gilmar_deoliv

New Member
It would be more realistic

I've always thought BAL could become something a lot more than it is at the moment. The mode seems neglected and in need of variation and depth, so here's what I think:

1 - More interaction with the manager: I'd like to be able to tell him I'm not happy with the lack of first... I must admit, I am quite dissapointed that BAL has virtually stayed the same for so many years now. I think there's more potential to the mode than playing games and moving clubs when you feel like.

Konami need to look what Sports Interactive did with Football Manager, every season a lot of improvements are made. Even in New Star Soccer you can use you money. Interaction in the dress room before the game, complains and shit after it. Real rating for lineup during training, training game between 1st and 2nd team. The option to choose teams to test before sign a contract. Corner moves training. The option to be free pass. Our PES is becoming as boring as FIFA:(
 
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