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Bought the game at midnight, returning it tomorrow!

PR3CiSiON

Registered User
I love how people buy the game, play it for a while then say its crap. Most people dont even play all of the features that are in the game before deciding. As for Fifa being better, it hasn't changes since last year in any way, besides being a goalkeeper, and who wants to do that? haha. Like the above post, sleep on it mate. The ASDA up my way had over 500 people, with the majority of them being Fifa guys. Must have improved if they all turned up.
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
Got the game, not fucking happy at the moment, auto switching is still fucking terrible, the repsonse times are totally unacceptable, players still stand still when a through ball is played to allow the attacker in on goal.
 

So Pro They Go Whoa

Registered User
Got the game, not fucking happy at the moment, auto switching is still fucking terrible, the repsonse times are totally unacceptable, players still stand still when a through ball is played to allow the attacker in on goal.

Can't agree with any of those. I changed auto-switching to semi-assisted, response times are spot on and with semi-assisted I can change defender before the through ball gets to the attacker...
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
Can't agree with any of those. I changed auto-switching to semi-assisted, response times are spot on and with semi-assisted I can change defender before the through ball gets to the attacker...

Response times spot on eh.................

Please lord dont let me have to start kicking off.
 

pard

Registered User
Can't agree with any of those. I changed auto-switching to semi-assisted, response times are spot on and with semi-assisted I can change defender before the through ball gets to the attacker...

You must be playing another game. Player switching from the ISS was better than this shit we have now.
 

byrnie05

Registered User
Why they don't just think 'Balls to FIFA' and use the PES5 or 6 engine in conjunction with the 2011 stats/graphics/rosters and be done with it, I don't know. Surely they must realise how popular PES was back then and a large number of PES buyers would be happy if it played like it used to on the PS2.
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
Im fucking shit at this game, just won 6-1 with real madrid against braga thanks to some SUICIDAL braga defending, Lost the 1st game away to Panithinakos 2-1. Hmmmm the defending in this game is shit and the dribbling is different to the demo, C. Ronaldo takes this HUGE ASS touches but maybe its the way im using him.
 

Hunter

BELIEVE
To be honest that's not the problem. Apart from the last 3 years or so I always bought PES and I was always brilliant at it (dont mean to brag - but I was usually ranked top 500 in the world). PES 2011 is the first I'd properly played in 3 years and my first friendly I put it on Top Player and won 3-1, so it's not getting used to a harder game I'm struggling with, it's just a very poor game in my honest evaluation.

Nobody agree that the passing is horrendous & waaaaay too fast?

You mean top 500 from a few countries in Europe? ;) Still, very impressive, but we don't play the world on PES, just select European nations online.

As for giving the game an hour or so, that's pretty stupid really. You've played PES enough to know it's the type of game that requires time and patience to really gel with and get to grips with, especially this year more so than the last 4 or 5 due to the changes in the mechanics.

As for exhibitions, I'll probably start playing more of them and trying out different teams but I've been quite busy with the ML and apart from a 4-1 win in my ML on Top Player, I've not scored more than 2 goals in a match. I'd probably find it a touch easier with good players mind. It's hard to put my finger on but after just over a week of playing it, I have to say that the AI isn't up to scratch in almost all areas in the sense that they're just not ruthless enough and focused in the conviction of everything they do.

The passing though I find to be really great, the majority of the time if I simply tap the button a hospital pass will be played. There's a lot more control over every aspect of the passing, while still allowing the player's stats to play a big part which is an achievement from Konami in itself. The passing I find to be a decent pace as well, I don't particularly like overly fast football games which is why I play PES on -1 speed but the passing is fine to me.

I'm not sure whether you were expecting a ground-breaking game, but it certainly seems like you got your hopes up. It's definitely a step above previous PES titles on the Xbox 360 in terms of gameplay though and it's a solid foundation for Konami to now build upon.

PS: Stop calling people names or I'm afraid I might have to give you an infraction. It's just not necessary to stick things like "fuck off" and "bellend" at the end of a sentence.
 

DIECI

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I'm assuming at some point in this thread I'll get called a FIFA fanboy or something along those lines.

You're such a FIFA fanboy! :loopy: jk

Kidding aside, I hear you on your issues, I didn't like the demo all that much at first but Im getting used to it and starting to enjoy it. I also found many issues with the game(demo)

1. goalie control off corner kicks is very slow or non responsive. I want to press triangle and bring out my goalie but he doesnt want to come out.
2. players running next to you when you have the ball dont make forward/intelligent runs, instead they sit there or fall back thus killing the attack. (this doesnt happen all the time)
3. defensive player switch has issues, the ai gives you the wrong player at times or switches players you control without you asking it to.
4. slow defenders become superfast and catch up to fast attckers like Messi on the break
5. The passing system is way to overpowered for the bad/slow reacting defenders. If you get good with your through passes you will score at will on the defenders
6. Camera angle on Wide goes at an angle when getting to the penalty areas making shooting feel awkward at times.

I hope they patch these up and in the next few weeks or by the time the US game comes out!

ps... Maybe they fixed these issues for the actual game? remember Im talking about the US demo.
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
I just cannot defend in this game, the switching just picks someone else, player stop still and allow through balls to go through them, the response times are just terrible, if the ball goes loose you cant pass it 1st time, you have to take a touch there are just too many dodgy things going on in defence.
 

Stormrider

Registered User
I just cannot defend in this game, the switching just picks someone else, player stop still and allow through balls to go through them, the response times are just terrible, if the ball goes loose you cant pass it 1st time, you have to take a touch there are just too many dodgy things going on in defence.

Is it really that much worse then the demo? You and gun liked the demo and so do I so this does make me a little worried but I don't believe a game would actually become worse than the demo.
 

MysteryMan

Registered User
PES is shite , its an improvement over last year but nothing much, and FIFA is crap too , im sad that we can't even get 1 decent football game at this time with this technology , pathetic.
 

pard

Registered User
I just cannot defend in this game, the switching just picks someone else, player stop still and allow through balls to go through them, the response times are just terrible, if the ball goes loose you cant pass it 1st time, you have to take a touch there are just too many dodgy things going on in defence.

qft
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
Is it really that much worse then the demo? You and gun liked the demo and so do I so this does make me a little worried but I don't believe a game would actually become worse than the demo.

I hope its me......... will let you lot know.
 

shaun7

Registered User
^I hope that's not the case. Or maybe because you're playing with different teams anyway. I hope it's that. I don't want anything else worse than the demo. The demo was fine. At least much better than 10.
I hope it's because we need to re adjust to it.:)
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
^I hope that's not the case. Or maybe because you're playing with different teams anyway. I hope it's that. I don't want anything else worse than the demo. The demo was fine. At least much better than 10.
I hope it's because we need to re adjust to it.:)

I noticed most of this stuff in the demo too, but gave it a pass cos its the demo, but anyways, ill see what happens, I can tell you right now, im playing with real madrid and they dont play like Barcelona, which is good, but the defending is bad imo.....i'll see.
 
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