Complete player editing

[bagrunnell]

Complete player editing - Momo Sissoko

To get players to look right ingame, its not just about their face. Its about all the possible parameters you can edit for them. For example physique, boots, dribbling style etc. But one the most important things to complete a players appearance is to get there STATS right. If a player doesn't behave ingame like his real-life counterpart, then its harder to believe your really watching them. Im going to post up a couple of examples, if people are interested, post up your own.

Not only am I posting in this thread, but we have the fabulous California clown posting appearances for us all. His index is also listed here.


Players Posted so far:

Hernan Crespo
Didier Drogba
Arjen Robben
Damien Duff
Steven Gerrard
Shaun Wright Phillips/Christiano Ronaldo comparison
John Terry
Joe Cole
Asier Del Horno
Christian Wilhelmsson
James Morrison
Ruud Van Nistelrooy
Jermaine Defoe
Adriano Leite Ribeiro
Wayne Rooney
Mark Viduka/Jason Roberts comparison
Peter Crouch
Eidur Gudjohnsen
Claude Makelele
Emmanuel Eboue/Paulo Ferreira comparison
Juan Roman Riquelme
Ricardo Carvalho
Andrea Pirlo/Michael Essien comparison
Darren Bent
Thierry Henry
Louis Saha
Lee Bowyer
Lionel Messi
Michael Carrick/Alan Smith comparison
Robin Van Persie
Carlos Tevez
Ronaldo
Philipp Lahm
Juninho Pernambucano
Ricardo Kaka
Gary Neville
William Gallas/Jamie Carragher comparison
Luca Toni
Andrei Shevchenko
Owen Hargreaves
Lasanna Diarra
Frank Lampard/Michael Ballack comparison
Momo Sissoko - NEW!

California Clown's appearance index

Julio Cruz
Stephan Appiah

Here are some boots I have also created:

Nike Talaria Mercurial III - Pearl/Green

 

[bagrunnell]

Hernan Crespo

Basic Settings: Age - 30
Foot - right
Injury tolerence - B
Dribble style - 2
Freekick style - 2
Penalty - 1
Dropkick - 1
Celebration 1 - 40
2 - 26 (Both hard to get right, but pretty close)

Head: Skin colour - 1
Head height - +2
Head width - 0
Type - 3
Colour 1 - 1
2 - Black 2

Hairstyle: Type - Special 122
Colour 10
Facial hair: Type - 92
Colour 13

Physique: Height - 184cm
Weight - 78kg
Neck length - 0
Neck Width - +1
Shoulder height - 0
Shoulder width - -3
Chest measurement - -2
Waist circumference - -1
Arm circumference - -3
Leg circumference - -2
Calf Circumference - -2
Leg Length - -1

Boots: Adidias Predator Absolute TRX - Black/White/Red

Accessories: Right friendship bracelet/red
Shirt tucked in
Seasonal sleeves


Attack - 82
Defence - 45
Balance - 78
Stamina - 80
Top speed - 74
Acceleration - 72
Response - 91
Agility - 83
Dribble accuracy - 77
Dribble speed - 72
Short pass accuracy - 76
Short pass speed - 74
Long pass accuracy - 71
Long pass speed - 70
Shot accuracy - 90
Shot power - 86
Shot technique - 93
Free kick accuracy - 70
Curling - 84
Header - 87
Jump - 82
Technique - 81
Aggression - 89
Mentality - 77
Goal keeping skills - 50
Team work - 94
Consistency - 6
Condition - 6
Weak foot accuracy - 7
Weak foot frequency - 6

* Positioning, Reaction, Scoring, 1-1 Scoring, Lines, Outside. (Seabass describes the 1 touch pass star as beinga mistranslation. It actually refers to the ability to hit direct shots and volleys. Crespo is very profficient at this, for examples his goals against Fulham and Liverpool. His basic abilities mean he is still good at this, so this special star is optional really.)

And thats Hernan Crespo. Ingame, he know makes intelligent runs both direct and diagonally. As in real life, his pace isnt his strong point, but his ability to fire off quick, accurate shots under pressure is reflected in the stats.

 

[ferdinand93]

Hernan Crespo

Head: Skin colour - 1
Head height - +2
Head width - 0
Type - 3
Colour 1 - 1
2 - Black 2

Hairstyle - special 122
colour 10
Facial hair - 92
colour 13

Physique: Height - 184cm
Weight - 78kg
Neck length - 0
Neck Width - +1
Shoulder height - 0
Shoulder width - -3
Chest measurement - -2
Waist circumference - -1
Arm circumference - -3
Leg circumference - -2
Calf Circumference - -2
Leg Length - -1

Boots - Adidias Predator Absolute TRX - Black/White/Red

Accessories - Right friendship bracelet/red
Shirt tucked in
Seasonal sleeves

Basic Settings: Age - 31
Foot - right
Injury tolerence - B
Dribble style - 2
Freekick style - 2
Penalty - 1
Dropkick - 1
Celebration 1 - 40
2 - 26 (Both hard to get right, but pretty close)

Attack - 82
Defence - 45
Balance - 78
Stamina - 80
Top speed - 74
Acceleration - 72
Response - 91
Agility - 83
Dribble accuracy - 77
Dribble speed - 72
Short pass accuracy - 76
Short pass speed - 74
Long pass accuracy - 71
Long pass speed - 70
Shot accuracy - 90
Shot power - 86
Shot technique - 93
Free kick accuracy - 70
Curling - 84
Header - 87
Jump - 82
Technique - 81
Aggression - 89
Mentality - 77
Goal keeping skills - 50
Team work - 86
Consistency - 6
Condition - 6
Weak foot accuracy - 6
Weak foot frequency - 5

* Positioning, Reaction, Scoring, 1-1 Scoring, Lines, Outside. (Seabass describes the 1 touch pass star as beinga mistranslation. It actually refers to the ability to hit direct shots and volleys. Crespo is very profficient at this, for examples his goals against Fulham and Liverpool. His basic abilities mean he is still good at this, so this special star is optional really.)

And thats Hernan Crespo. Ingame, he know makes intelligent runs both direct and diagonally. As in real life, his pace isnt his strong point, but his ability to fire off quick, accurate shots under pressure is reflected in the stats.

ur creation is good but crespo is both-ffoted so i gave him 8 for both weaker foot accuracy/frequency thingys. plus, u say 1-touch-pass is for hitting direct volleys nd dat, well technique is the stat for that e.g. paul scholes' technique is in the 90's as he is very good at hitting first time volleys.

 

[bagrunnell]

This is a quote taken from The official piggyback guide for PRO EVO 5:

1-touch pass - Despite its name, this star actually enhances a players ability to make first-time shots. "This is a little mistranslation," admits Seabass. "Its not a one-touch pass, its a more a direct volley shot, or rather, the accuracy of a direct volley shot. For one-touch passes, Technique is the important ability" (end qoute)


A good point about Crespo's two footedness though. I think maybe either a 7 0r 8 for accuracy, and a 6 or 7 for frequency. Its a difficult one to analyse, as Crespo is skilled with the outside of his boot, so occasions when he would maybe use his left, he would give a little flick with the right.

Thanks for the reply mate, and if you want to post anything up, feel free. What do you reckon to the other stats? I will maybe alter them, after testing them a bit more. Ive had maybe five games playing him and found he behaved very realistically, especially his movement.

 

[bagrunnell]

Didier Drogba

Basic settings: Age - 28
Dominant foot - right
Injury tolerance - B
Dribble style - 2
Freekick style - 2
Goal Celebration 1 - 48
2 - 73

Face: Skin colour 4
Head height +3
Head width -1
Type 2
Colour 1 - 1
2 - Brown 2

Hairstyle: Special 129
Colour R - 12
G - 12
B - 10
Facial hair: Type 94
Colour - same as hair

Boots: Nike Talaria - Deep royal blue

Physique: Height - 188cm
Weight - 84kg
Neck length 0
Neck width +2
Shoulder height 0
Shoulder width -4
Chest measurement -2
Waist circumference -2
Arm circumference -4
Leg circumference -1
Calf circumference -1
Leg length -1

Accessories: Left white wristband
Right black/yellow friendship bracelet
Seasonal sleeves
Untucked shirt
Tape

Attack - 91
Defence - 56
Balance - 92
Stamina - 80
Top speed - 85
Acceleration - 82
Response - 76
Agility - 78
Dribble accuracy - 73
Dribble speed - 80
Short pass accuracy - 73
Short pass speed - 76
Long pass accuracy - 69
Long pass speed - 70
Shot accuracy - 77
Shot power - 89
Shot technique - 75
Freekick accuracy - 76
Curling - 73
Header - 90
Jump - 92
Technique - 70
Aggresson - 82
Mentality - 78
Goal keeping skills - 50
Team work ability - 82
Consistency - 5
Weak foot accuracy - 5
Weak foot frequency - 5

*positioning, scoring, post player


So now that is Chelsea's two prominent strikers. These changes mean ingame you get distinct and realistic differences between the two of them.

Strength - Drogba is undoubtedly the stronger and has excellent hold up play. Crespo has improved strength wise through his second premiership season. He stands up more and is harder to knock off the ball than in his first premiership season.

Pace - Again Drogba definately has an edge in pace to Crespo. Coupled with his strength this means when he gets going Drogba is a handful for defenders. Defenders would be fooled in thinking they can get a half yard on Crespo though. His movement, and precise runs, mean that hes gone before defenders realise even though his pace isnt that great.

Passing - Neither of the twos strongest point, but each get the job done.

Shooting/Scoring - Crespo here is the clearly better. His accuracy and ability to fire off quick shots with zero backlift makes him lethal in the box. He can pack a punch as well, for example his goal against Wigan. All he needs is half a yard to curl a shot into the corner. Drogba on the other hand almost always opts for power. He often miss cues shots, and sends some flying in the crowd.

Aerial Ability - A strong point for both Crespo and Drogba, though they enjoy success in different ways. Crespo again relies on his movement to get himself in front of the defender and is accurate with his headers. A good example of this is Charlton away. Drogba on the other hand is all about power. He will outleap any defender and attack the ball with force leaving keeper with no chance. Great example of this was Sunderland at home, rising head and shoulders above his marker.

Favoured foot - Crespo is very much two footed. I could reel off cracking goals scored with his left and right foot. Drogbas left foot is also not bad, but not to the standard of Crespo's.


There you go, Drogba and Crespo. Take into consideration these points and then try them out in game. Any feedback, positive or negative, is greatly appreciated.

 

[Gernaldo]

Handy!

Jesus! I never actually considered Crespo and Drogba's stats to that extent but lookin at your stats I must say they look incredibly accurate! Im pretty confident they will turn out great!

 

[bagrunnell]

Arjen Robben

Thanks very much Gernaldo! Im just about completely satisfied with them, still not 100% sure about the pace issue. Been watching tons of footage of both of them from last couple of season reviews and think Crespo may have slightly more pace than i gave him.

But anyway, here is another blues player Ive been working on and have just about finished.

Basic Settings: Age - 22
Dominant foot - Left
Injury tolerance - B
Dribble Style - 4
Freekick style - 2
Penalty type - 1
Goal celebration 1 - 45
2 - 37

Face: Skin colour 1
Head height 0
Head width -3
Type 215
Colour 1 - 1
2 - blue 1

Hairstyle: Type - Special - 195
Colour - 11
Facial hair: Type - no

Boots: Adidias F50.6 tunits white

Physique: Height 180cm
Weight 75kg
Neck length -1
Neck width -1
Shoulder height -2
Shoulder width -6
Chest measurement -3
Waist circumference -2
Arm circumference -3
Leg circumference -1
Calf circumference -1
Leg length -1

Accesories: Seasonal sleeves
Untucked shirt
Tape

Attack - 80
Defence - 50
Balance - 74
Stamina - 80
Top Speed - 90
Acceleration - 88
Response - 77
Agility - 90
Dribble accuracy - 92
Dribble speed - 89
Short pass accuracy - 75
Short pass speed - 76
Long pass accuracy - 80
long pass speed - 81
Shot accuracy - 82
Shot power - 79
Shot technique - 84
Free kick accuracy - 75
Curling - 84
Header - 62
Jump - 71
Technique - 95
Aggression - 90
Mentality - 71
Goal keeping skills - 50
Team work ability - 70
Consistency - 4
Weak foot accuracy - 5
Weaf foot frequency - 5

*Dribbling, Tactical dribbling, Reaction, Side

Arjen Robben has excellent technical ability. With the stats assigned here, his pace and control are reflected superbly in game. His first touch is excellent, hence the 95 in technique. His goals against Everton in the F.A cup and Portsmouth are great examples. His pace is another great asset to him. His dribble accuracy reflects his regular subtle, gentle touches on the ball, keeping it constantly under control. This coupled with a dribble speed, that is virtually the same as his top speed means you get the feeling the ball is somewhat stuck to his feet, just like in real life.

The teamwork stat of 70 illustrates how Arjen Robben sometimes opts to attempt to take on defender when a simple pass may be better suited. This doesnt happen quite so much now, hence still a fairly high stat, yet it gives a realistic output of his decisions.

Finally, the dribbling stars were simply essential. Watching a com controlled match, Arjen was constantly looking to take on defenders and often succeeded.

 

[CaptainCabinet]

Your stats are fantastic i've just added them in and they play completely like real life, are you taking any requests for statmaking? because i think you would do a very good job.

 

[nickpring]

thanks for these, will there be more chelsea players to come? are you going to be taking requests?

 

[bagrunnell]

Captain Cabinet - thank you very much, its very gratifying. I will shortly be taking requests, but I am very busy at the moment. Have a few more Chelsea players I will post up, then will start taking requests. At the moment, Im concentrating on Premiership stats. I simply do not have time to follow all the leagues! Thankyou, and will let you know when to start requesting. If you want you can give me a couple now, but I wouldnt have them ready that quick.

Nick Pring - Yes I do have a few more Chelsea players to post up. You can expect Damien Duff and Shaun Wright phillips soon. Anyway, how do you find the stats? Positive or negative feedback is always welcome.

 

[CaptainCabinet]

This would be fantastic, basically im looking for an updated portsmouth squad stats as we have been in a whole lot better from during the closing weeks of last season so any of portsmouths players that you could update would be highly appreciated, i realise this would take you a very long time but any you can do would be fantastic

 

[GuyP]

Lee Bowyer But obviously, i will wait.

 

[bagrunnell]

Ok. Im thinking of maybe going through each of the teams individually, so I could maybe do Portsmouth players.

I think I may have a basic set of stats for Lee Bowyer, but nothing I have finalised. I will keep him in mind.

Please realise I am not promising. I should be able to do them once Ive posted Duff and Shaun Wright Phillips, providing Ive got suffivient time. It takes a lot of time to get a player spot on. Also just wanted to say thank you for thinking Im good enough to request from. So thank you!

 

[anders]

Im new so i may have missed something but arent all these players in the latest edition of PES

 

[CaptainCabinet]

Im new so i may have missed something but arent all these players in the latest edition of PES

yes mate, these are updated stats to make the game more realistic

 

[bagrunnell]

Yes very true Anders. But the player creation centre is also generally used for editing existing players within the game.

 

[anders]

Fair enough, but you've made drogba far too good on the game, his touch is awful but you've got his technique and dribble accuracy really high!

 

[bagrunnell]

Anders I appreciate your point about Drogba. His touch is not world class, but is good. Yes he does have moments where his touch lets him down, but generally its ok. This is why 70 is a good rating for technique. Drogbas problem is CONSISTENCY. So Drogba is capable of performing first touches of a good standard, but every so often he has a bad one. This can be highlighted in the game at home to Everton this season. This is why I have given Drogba a lower consistency level. This affects many things ingame, and first touch is one of them. So pairing his technique and consistency value together mean ingame, Drogbas touch is good, NOT SPECIAL, and that every so often, he will miscontrol it and lose the ball. A good example of what he is capable of is his goal against West Ham away.

Regarding his dribble accuracy, 73 is just right. Dribble accuracy measures how often a player touches the ball. A higher rating means they touch the ball more frequently, keeping it under closer control. 73 means ingame Drogba keeps the ball under a good amount of control, but if he mistimes a touch then he gives the ball away easily. Couple this with his consistency value, and you see how sometimes he takes a heavy or weak touch, leaving him succeptable to challenges.

 

[bagrunnell]

Nick Pring, regarding Chelsea players I should have Damien Duff up by the end of tonight, say 11.

 

[djbigmore]

This is a really good idea mate.

Any chance of posting info on players like John Obi Mikel, David Villa and Steven Gerrard? (They're just some players that I feel aren't represented well in the game)

Cheers if possible.

Dan.