aye, its confirmed on xbox live's spotlight section that the FIFA demo is out on the 10th. and i could only hazard a gues as liverpools way has above as to the PES demo as this is unconfirmed. i simple google search will usually tell you if a confirmed date has arrived but nothing shows for PES other than speculation. still looking forward to the whole 2 minutes of gameplay we will prolly get in the FIFA demo :/