Demo out on psn+ now! Use this thread to discuss demo!

[BerbasNo1Fan]

Do you guys use the analogue stick?

I've always used D-pad for PES but i'm finding with the demo that if i use d-pad players can only pass in the 8 directions of the d-pad, so i'm misplacing a lot of passes.

I've always used d pad for pes would find it weird not to. Worried if I don't change though it will ruin the whole 360 degree element

 

[phatdave2]

i got some questions guys to people who have got the demo

1. Is that failed attempt at HDR sunlight near the goals in pes 2011?

2. Is it still way to easy to score from crosses ?

3. Do the ai defenders still back off way too much ?

4. when shooting at a 90 degree angle from the goal is the horrible shooting animation still in?

Makavelian.....only played about 6 matches so far....gave in and bought plus...but i look at it as 3 months of free stuff! anyway to answer your queries (based on Top Player)...

1.That sunlight thing is gone...annoyed me when i first played 2010, but got used to it. glad it seems to have disappeared. Not sure if it'll be there on other stadiums though in the full release.

2.I've not been great at scoring from crosses except on ISS Evolution2 on PS1 (Darei from Iran was a legend at scoring headed goals). I've scored from one cross so far on 2011. Can't seem to do the triple Circle low fast cross along the floor on this version which i used to like doing...but maybe holding down pass will work...will have to try it. Crosses to seem to result in realistic headed scrambles. Headed over a few times...but most get cleared by the defence...or out for a corner.

3. Defenders back off a little, but not nearly as much as 2010. Shooting from distance is much harder now. I need to master it. I found that when i was 2-1 in the Copa match...the opposition went heavily defensive to defend their lead. Good to see opposition AI reacting appropriately to the scoreline.

4.Not sure about this one i'm afraid!....all my shots from the right or left side of the penalty box have gone all over the place. Shooting animations in general do look good though.

I will give a bigger report back on gameplay once i've played the game a few more times. I never like a new PES at first...except PES 5....liked it so much i didn't buy PES6 for the PS2 (got it for PSP though). I will say, I don't thing PES 2011 matches PES 5 in terms of perfection...but i think its made a step in the right direction. PES 2012 is the one i think will get PES back on track....with such a dramatic change to the gameplay, it'll need at least another year to perfect it.

A few other quick points to add...

1. you cant hack down the goalkeeper anymore when he throws/kicks it out...thank god
2. however....still no bookings if you hack someone down off the ball and pl;ay continues. PES 5 got the referees spot on and would let play continue...and then when the ball went out of play, the referee would go back and bookm the offending player
3. seen quite a few balls bounce off the goalkeepers leading to silly goals. Most of the ones i've seen have been silly goals...but keepers are vulnerable to mistakes in the real world too
4. Got a penalty awarded to me in the first match...blatant penalty...but one that would probably not have been given in 2010. Not had any other fouls in area, so hopefully penalties are now fixed.
5. Harder to burst past an opposition player with pace...even with supposedly faster players....player in control seems to stutter between each big stride... not a big problem, but i like fast players to be able to get away from slow defenders....needs more testing from me though!
6. passing is tricky at first due to having to remember you cant just always tap the pass button...but its so much more rewarding. Love being able to weight through balls...rather than hoping the AI guesses what i want.... it makes the gameplay far more diverse
7. I like the fact they've kept 2010 style penalties...although i agree would be better behind player for mid-match penalties. The old penalty system was down to luck...this is about skill....for people who dont like this system...just keep practising...if you hit the shot off target its because of you.....the old style was too random and made it a lottery.

If anyone has any other questions, let me know!

 

[Demonref]

My concern was the penalties but I will be practicing when the full game comes out. Havent played PES since PES6.

 

[vid17021982]

Couple of questions.........
Does the Defence still allow the attack to do the drag back?
Can Messi still cut in from the wing, travel the edge of the area, and release an unstoppable shot into the goal?
Can the goalie throw the ball quicker?

goalkeepes defo release the ball quicker and more realistic yes

 

[theman]

i got some questions guys to people who have got the demo

4. when shooting at a 90 degree angle from the goal is the horrible shooting animation still in?

yes he can still score impossible 90 degree goals

 

[SAFCste]

Sounds like pes2011 is the game pes2009 couldve been and pes2010 shouldve been.

Looks like the majority of people think its great. The only real complaint Ive heard is the shooting is very floaty and slow. The shooting on pes2010 was spot on I thought. You could hit some real rockets. They rarely went in though.

Is it possible to play 2v2 on the demo and if so what is it like? Last years 2v2 wasnt the best. Player selection was bad.

 

[stodge]

I watched a few videos of the demo and the animations still look rather poor; the transitions are still clunky and I really can't see a huge improvement. The reviews will have be in the high 80s or even low 90s for me to consider picking it up.

 

[ezio]

Being in the U.S. I went out of my way to get a UK PSN card and plus from the UK store. When I frist started playing the demo I wasn't sure it was worth the effort to play it early. After getting to grips with the passing I am loving the demo. the passing and crossing are fantastic IMO. I personally would like a player run button like fifa has but I did notice as others have if you mess with tactics and user R2 they will make runs. You really can play some slick football when the passing comes off which it doesn't always which is a good thing IMO.

At the moment, I can't stop playing the demo the good thing is that it took time to grow on me which reminds of the good PES games of the past. The more I play it the more I enjoy which is a good sign IMO.

 

[shankly is god]

I just think its major gay you have to pay to play the demo a week early!!!

and ezio im glad to hear that! pes has always been a game that has areas which annoy some and entertain others! im really hoping it has the passion that pes 5&6 had with a real sense you were playing football(soccer) for me pes 2010 does have elements where you really feel like you scored a goal and made a good successful pass but few and far between

 

[john4]

I watched a few videos of the demo and the animations still look rather poor; the transitions are still clunky and I really can't see a huge improvement. The reviews will have be in the high 80s or even low 90s for me to consider picking it up.

same here. The rainbow flick looks particulary bad. As for animations i think there is more but most people seem happy jsut because there is now a single animation for shoulder to shoulder. Nontheless it looks better and tommorrow will tell me if i will be parting with my cash.

 

[BerbasNo1Fan]

I watched a few videos of the demo and the animations still look rather poor; the transitions are still clunky and I really can't see a huge improvement. The reviews will have be in the high 80s or even low 90s for me to consider picking it up.

Lol at how you'll buy a game based on the score it gets but not on the actual footage you see

 

[ezio]

and ezio im glad to hear that! pes has always been a game that has areas which annoy some and entertain others! im really hoping it has the passion that pes 5&6 had with a real sense you were playing football(soccer) for me pes 2010 does have elements where you really feel like you scored a goal and made a good successful pass but few and far between

Shankly,

I was not a fan of the last 2 versions of the game to be honest and as such moved to Fifa. This year I think pes 2011 is on it's way back to being what it was on the ps2. The passing takes some getting used to but once you get used to it really works well.

 

[Du 1337]

PS+ is a retarded and bloodsucking way of making more money...

 

[karbonio]

I have played about 15 games.
I Tweaked the graphics with the enb series, I put in a square pattern for the nets. (dt07.img bin54), and it feel and looks freaking amazing.

The field feels HUGE, in the sense that for the first time I am aware of all of it, the midfield and 3/4 are actually not just the space between the goals, as it felt in the previous more arcade versions, but an area where you have to stop and think, this is definitely thanks to the new passing system that force you to be much more aware of what you are doing.

Players do feel a bit robotic, but I am playing on a pc with a keyboard, so I can't quite be the judge of that, and I don't really care anyway.

Overall this game is just excellent.
It is really a pleasure to play and can't wait to try the full version.u

 

[y2kshin]

*update for demo tester please support us.....

Bring back control configuration in the old pes, but keep the new one. now with reason!

After playing demo for so many days, this is the conclusion I can get.
pes2011 is the greatest football game in the universe.but also the worse football game in control configuration.

this are the negative:

1.trick control L2 + right stick.
reason: not fluid to do,doesn't feel we do the trick ourselves.what make it worse is the Ps3 L2 is very difficult to click.also when playing hand is busy with the right stick.
solution: keep the left pad trick, but still keep the new one.
*update
Don' t confuse with removed new one.it is not replaced the new one.but bring back the old one, so everybody can choose which trick they want to use.
*update
after read people comment, I got conclusion that most people agree with other point,but not agree with this point.so I make new vote with point no 1 deleted.so if if anybody agree with point 2,3,4 please vote here http://forums.pesfan.com/showthread.php?t=233302

2.keeper cursor L1 + R3.
reason: should be change to something faster, because when we want to click R3, IMO it need time maybe 1 millisecond slower than the usual triangle.it is make huge different when playing.
solution: use the old L1 + triangle.

3.step over dummy right stick.
reason: actually it is very good, only cannot getting used to it.
solution: keep the L1 2x and R2 2x.

4.dive L3 R3.
reason: when we are running we cannot push L3 easily.
solution: keep the old L1 L2 R2.

the positive part about the new trick configuration is the L1 + right stick.

for other that don't agree and feel satisfied with the new trick configuration, please support us,because it doesn't interfere with the new control configuration.
if anybody agree, please support by going here http://forums.pesfan.com/showthread.php?t=233269 vote yes.
thanks everybody.....

 

[Zardo]

its the demo available for the america? on xbox? Im a gold member FUCK if they cant give us the demo today

 

[yusufs94]

ok,yeah it's infinitely better than the last PES, passing is awesome, and you get real satisfaction when you make a great through ball, limited AI stupitidity, you have to think quick and can't dilly dally on the ball. But i think they've copied basically copied FIFA.

 

[solid ss]

15 shot missed
wrong passes
don't know how to do dribbles
=my impression on pes2011 demo

 

[The Eristic]

well i can say that the referee is a **** :realmad:
he never plays advantage and theres a replay after every single crappy foul. other than that, i cant stop playing the demo, ive played a bout 20 matches now.

There really should be an option for "instant replay frequency" or some such, whereby you can choose for them to be shown for A: everything following a stoppage (including goal attempts that go out of play, fouls, offsides, etc) B: important things (goals, bookable fouls, penalties and FKs near the box, close calls), C: goals only or D: nothing (ie, replays off).

 

[im_loving_it]

Hi, I just signed up to this site 2mins ago. I want to share my thoughts on the new pes demo for 2011 ps3. i was playing it and almost immediately i realised that konami have ruined the series, i was really looking forward to playing this and I been buying pro evo every year since the classic iss pro 98, thats when my conversion from fifa began, and i havent looked back since, until now. I still wont buy fifa because I hate the gameplay, but I wont buy pes 2011 based on the demo either. I have stayed loyal to pro evo since playstation 1 and i have defending it and been a loyal fan but this demo was the last straw buy konami, i am apsoloutely fumming and upset at the same time, thats why i wanted to sign up to this site and share my thoughts with other pes fans, so thanks for reading. Next I am going to outline the changes in the demo i think have ruined the game, so if you want to read on its up to you, if not, thanks for reading my first post and thank you for the option files i have used over the years!

PES 2011 DEMO for PlayStation 3

In the PES vs FIFA war I allways used to say that fifa has better features, music, commentary, licences, graphics and pro evo is better at the gameplay - which at the end of the day is what really matters, is what happens on the pitch, this has for me been the decided factor over the years and i was allways proud about the fact that allthough pro evo was lacking to fifa in alot of aspects, that on the pitch the gameplay in my opinion was far superior. I was thinking as long as they dont make changes to the gameplay then pro evo will allways be better than fifa.

In the demo they have changed the wide camera angle so it has a tilt following left and right, this is a HUGE change to the dynamics of crossing and slide taclking, i was just about to make a slide tackle with puyol and i couldnt even see the ball, i just had to hope he got it, the side on view that pro evo has adopted over the years - what the hell was wrong with it? nothing, when did anyone ever complain about the camera angles? never, so why try and fix something which isnt broke, the very first thing you notice in a football game is the camera angle, and i dont care what you say - im telling you, there was NO REASON to change it!!! and has anyone scored a cracker outside the area yet? rememeber how it used to be awesome in the legend that is pes 6 for the ps2, there going to realism over simulation, they change the things that make them the game what they are, why not change the stupid player menus back to what they were when we saw all of the players attributes on 1 page? the gameplay didnt need a radical make over but konami you have forgotten what has made pes in the first place, they should ask any real pes fan like me and ask what makes pes? licences -no, awesome graphics - no, features - no, its the gameplay, and sadly you have forgotten what made you, I will no longer support pes - they just killed my favourite game :realmad: