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Does anyone actually really enjoy this mode?

MysteryMan

Registered User
Such a great mod it should be but its shit.

The problem is AI and ignoring of your commands.

Why is the AI absolutely DUMB like a pile of wood when you play in the team? I mean the AI as a whole in PES is still a joke but its not that bad its quite decent and much better than pes 11 but in BAL your teammates are absolutely and completely DUMB and STUPID, its impossible to play with them.

Now this could be at least masked alot better if the pass command would work better, for example in fifa when u press pass button u receive a pass from ur AI teammate, which means if u are smart and good enough u can really make the team play quite well and smart, but in pes it doesnt work as 70% of the time the AI just ignores ur commands and does something dumb and stupid.

Really sucks, it could be so much better this mode..
 

0zz

Registered User
I disagree.I enjoy it. As a big CF I'm delighted how the game is played and once I realised what's expected from me, everything works fine.Bad games happen,computer dumbness is nothing new either.But if you are ballhogging and not playing the team game, you'll be left out of attacks, simple.I prefer to slow down the tempo too, extra bodies with YOUR smart movement will make the difference.I'm not talking about bottom feeders, but i.e Newcastle, if you gel with them, they'll send any ball you want into the box, even more,they'll pass up 1 on 1 to pass back.I've noticed issues as well but after 3 seasons in one club, I'm enjoying every game.
 

MysteryMan

Registered User
I disagree.I enjoy it. As a big CF I'm delighted how the game is played and once I realised what's expected from me, everything works fine.Bad games happen,computer dumbness is nothing new either.But if you are ballhogging and not playing the team game, you'll be left out of attacks, simple.I prefer to slow down the tempo too, extra bodies with YOUR smart movement will make the difference.I'm not talking about bottom feeders, but i.e Newcastle, if you gel with them, they'll send any ball you want into the box, even more,they'll pass up 1 on 1 to pass back.I've noticed issues as well but after 3 seasons in one club, I'm enjoying every game.

Im sure ur enjoying ur time at Newcastle, I probably didn't mention but I was talking more about the top teams here.

I played at Borussia Dortmund aswell and it was fun and really nice but once you get into a top club you don't enjoy it anymore.

Because if you look at real life and also realistically how a team is better you expect them to play like this aswell but infact there is no difference between playing for borussia dortmund or playing for barcelona.
I am playing for around half a season now and I can safely say that my team ( barcelona ) has less posession than opponents in at least half of the games, in alot of games opponents also outshoot me, which is absolutely ridicilous and insane, how can Osasuna have more posession and outshoot my team when im playing for Barcelona? It makes the whole thing crap and I lose all interest playing, Messi can't even dribble past players, players playing nothing like real life, Xavi trying to go on dribling runs all the time etc...


So my advice for people playing BAL is stick with lower clubs, because you will almost surely lose all interest playing for the top teams.
 

hawkeye76

Registered User
I really like the BAL mode. I like being one player. Playing as part of a team.

But, its happened with all the BAL seasons I've had over the years, the scripting kicks in to ruin it.
I usually notice the scripting (or catchup mode) at the beginning of my career, where your player seems to play beyond his abilities. But the problems normally hit 4 or 5 seasons in. When your player is pretty good, you are doing well and playing for a top team.

Your player stops being as responsive, you often can't play to your abilities, but the worst thing is the team of superstars you play with are completely useless. The results completely rely on you doing everything. You aren't part of the team anymore, you are the team.

I have stopped playing as it annoyed me so much. Might go back at some point when i forget how frustrated I was.
 

MysteryMan

Registered User
I really like the BAL mode. I like being one player. Playing as part of a team.

But, its happened with all the BAL seasons I've had over the years, the scripting kicks in to ruin it.
I usually notice the scripting (or catchup mode) at the beginning of my career, where your player seems to play beyond his abilities. But the problems normally hit 4 or 5 seasons in. When your player is pretty good, you are doing well and playing for a top team.

Your player stops being as responsive, you often can't play to your abilities, but the worst thing is the team of superstars you play with are completely useless. The results completely rely on you doing everything. You aren't part of the team anymore, you are the team.

I have stopped playing as it annoyed me so much. Might go back at some point when i forget how frustrated I was.

Interesting for me its quite the opposite, i need to carry my whole team ( barca ) and the rest of my team is completely useless, messi, iniesta, xavi, cesc... its like I was playing for getafe, thats what frustrates me the most.
 

MysteryMan

Registered User
^^^Seriously? It makes me think of not leaving The Magpies.

Yup, its ridicilous, the only thing I noticed is the players tend to pass the ball to me more, must be their higher teamwork but apart from that its riicilous.
 

89cruefan

Registered User
I like this mode, but having only played 8 games i cannot properly give a decent opinion. At first its difficult to get the ball, however once the team "get to know you" and all that stuff, the AI is pretty good... However there are still games where the AI make some dumb decisions and passes.
 

dan80

Registered User
Im not really enjoying it, im only playing it to get my player really good so i can try and help the team play better, every team plays the same crowded box and you cant get in to space you cant loose your marker and while you try and make space your AI team mates do that josleing thing which looks discusting, what that does is slow the game down allowing the cpu to get there players back so there is no space at all and the AI cant take on players.

Every year there is something worng with this mode i liked pes 2010 theer was freedom and i could go where i want but the AI was so bad they would just walk off the pitch 2011 wasnt much better, this year no space to do anything so its always seems to be the same goals: freekicks and headers from corners and some 1v1s thats for your team mates. For you mainly call for the ball and crul it in from outside the box in a bad shooting animation, i dont know i really thought this year would be really good becuase of the over hyped AI play.
 

abu97

Registered User
Stopped playing it after a week- it's just boring even with the great AI but theres just no excitement to make you play.
 

Abhijit Singh

Registered User
This year the BAL has improved and as far as the pass request is concerned , I get a pass immediately whenever I ask for it.
Playing at Barcelona, II season, just 18 years of age, overall rating 71, CF and SS, Super Sub and Germany No. 10.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
As long as you keep your response stat low, your team won't need to be carried for some reason. Once you get 80+ response, you might as well start over. You can always use a BAL editor to keep it around 65-70, which I've found gives a good combination of match speed and relatively decent friendly AI.

I play for Barcelona at the moment, age 23 and overall rating 91 winger, but playing SS / AMF for the most part. It's fun, because my team is really good, but I am hardly the "star" of the team, but we win almost all the matches anyway. I score quite a few goals, but they're served to me on a silver platter to be honest. I think I'll need to find a weaker club to become the main attraction :)
 

DAVE1875

Registered User
I would enjoy it more if I didn't get a copy from amazon that, despite having no scratches or anything on the mirror side, keeps coming up "disk unreadable" every so often
 

dan80

Registered User
I play for barcalona and its not all that we have the odd good game but there not amazing like they should be and i think i may go to some less club so i dont have disapointment.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
dan80, use a BAL editor and keep your response around 65-70. Once you notice your team mates are starting to slack again, revert it back to 68 or so. Once your players response hit 75+, your team start to rely solely on your player for some reason.

I keep it at 65, but it makes it a pain in the ass to connect to crosses. Other than that, it's really no problem. Alternatively, you can play as an offensive side back. The AI seems to keep it together much better once your player is a defender.

My funniest BAL careers have come as a back because of this, until I realized the "response" trick. I'm having a really good, and incredibly funny career as Winger/Forward at the moment.


EDIT:
http://www.pes-patch.com/2011/12/pes-2012-bal-settings-1-2-by-mxsonic.html

Bal settings 1.2 is not really compatible with PES 1.03. But for the purpose I use the editor, it can work.

Tenacity -> not working
Shot acc -> Shot power
Shot pow -> Shot acc
Response -> Ball control
Ball control -> Response

So in other words, if you got PES12 version 1.03, and open your BAL save with BAL settings 1.2 you will need to set Ball Control to 65-70 in order to change your Response.
 

Rasmus

Registered User
I would enjoy it more if I didn't get a copy from amazon that, despite having no scratches or anything on the mirror side, keeps coming up "disk unreadable" every so often

They have a return policy. Otherwise check if there's something wrong when you insert other games to your ps3.
 
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