EA is catching up

[Stingrer_I]

I think that at this point many of us (PES fans) are in agreement that Konami just barly does the minimum each year to put out a new version of the game, and frankly i'm tired of paying for only an updated team linup (which i can do myself)

The latest PES game I have is 2007, because after reading everyone's comments about 2008 I just didn't think it was worth it. I have been waiting for new of 2009 but meanwhile I played the demos for Euro 2008 and PES 2008. As soon as I started playing Euro, I was amazed at the gameplay; it is better than any other PES game i've ever played and nothing like the other EA football games. Then I played the demo for PES 2008 and it was even worse than my 2007.

I think EA has finally catched up (and passed) Konami in gameplay, and of course the graphics have always been superior. Now I wonder what EA has in store for FIFA 09, because I don't see any other advantages that PES games have over FIFA other than the ML and editing mode.

If FIFA can deliver that quality gameplay and a similar ML, I don't think I would even look twice at PES 2009 as I don't think it would even come close.

I might be wrong and this is only my opiopn based on a demo, so anybody that has played the full games can see other flaws.

 

[gators625]

To be fair, the EURO demo is actually better than the full game. THe full game plays slower than the demo. PES still has incredible ball physics, player interactions, AI, and player models. Still though, EA is doing some good things in their game.

 

[Ziss]

Enough Already!

 

[]NikE[]

They've certainly done themselves proud with Euro 2008. The demo was great, i personally never noticed any speed difference when i bought the full game on the 360. It's the best football game out at the moment in my opinion. It may not have the club teams being a tournament game but Fifa 09 should be pretty impressive.

 

[.:jester:.]

ive got both pes 2008 and fifa 2008. ive recently put down pes to play fifa for a bit, and to be honest ive had a lot more fun with fifa than pes. ok, pes 2008 has better ball physics and AI, but the movement of the players in fifa and of course the graphics are ten times better. plus the transfers and season mode are alot better on fifa let alone the amount of leagues you get. ive always tried my best to stand by pes 2008 saying its better than fifa, but recently ive seen my opinions change slightly as im getting bored of pes 2008. i know you were talking about euro 2008 but i dont have that game wich is why ive compared pes to fifa, but by the sounds of it euro 2008 is a better game than pes already and this could be an insight into what fifa 09 has to offer.

 

[Magono]

They (EA) will never capture the environment that surrounds PES. Just take one look at the 'making of DVD' that comes with PES's manual. That somes it up. A game bred on devotion and love is what PES is and always will be.

 

[RAMAXWY]

I will never understand why some people say this every year because i don't think it's true . EA catching up ? well if the main thing is graphics and licences that u are looking for ok then u are right.
But when it comes to gameplay and if u are really a football fan and if you play football in real life u will never say this.

EA is so far behind that if it means i have to sum up why i say this then u are not even worth having the game in ur console, so please make a real football fan happy and give it to him as a surprise because u just like playing a stupid game with alot of hipe and glamour.
i also played the demo and i was impressed by the rain and the wet player faces and........ nope that was it so i just can not understand why people keep saying that.
where i live people are trying to sell their fifa 08 and i keep seeing the advertisements every day hell i am even trying to sell mine and no one has called yet so i will keep saying it , it depends on what u want from the game .
I know it isn't perfect but it's much better then fifa any day.

 

[.:jester:.]

i think the argument is that pes 2008 is slipping ad fifa 08 is improving. i still love pes but they need to do something really special this year to make me part with my £45.

 

[dotty]

No they don't, buy it from 'Game' don't like it? return it and buy Fifa.

PES is far better for gameplay and AI and ball physics.

Especially AI Fifa has always been so easy to win, it's rank.

MON' THE PRO EVO!

 

[.:jester:.]

how cant you see that pes this year has not met anybodys expectations? do you think that this year konami made an improvemet on the last series?

cos i dont, if anything i rekon pes 3 up to maybe 5 were the better ones, and since then konami have just started slipping while EA have listened to their criticism and improved on their game. ok fifa might not be as good but if konami keep going down this road then fifa will eventually over take.

 

[hamas313]

I Have Never Played Anything But Pr Evo But 2008 Was The Biggest Pile Of Shit Ever Come On People Wake Up Even Seabass Said He Could Do Better .konami Have Became Slack If They Peddle Out A Minor Update Then Im Goung To Try Fifa .i Love Pro Evo But Am Not Willing To Be Conned Again My Message To Konami Is Wake Up Smell What Your Shoveling

 

[Stingrer_I]

I don't like to argue but apparently you can't read what I say. And for the record, I am a professional football player in my country and have been playing my whole life.

I have been playing football games ever since I can remember, and the first one I played was ISS by Konami in Super Nintendo. In N64 I only never played a FIFA game, until I bought my PS2. The only FIFA game i've owned was 2003 and then i changed over to PES because it was simply better and i didn't mind the no licences, like i said before.

I play no less then ML games a day, and sometimes i even do a whole year in one weekend, so i know this game inside and out and i know every glitch and every little thing that is wrong with this games, and that is why i say that Konami needs to really improve.

Like someone said before, i am saying that konami just does the bare minimum every year to put a new full prce game out there while EA just continues to improve, and yes, the gameplay in Euro 2008 is better than in PES 2008, granted that Euro is a newer game. And i'm only judgeing on the demos.

So go somewhere else with your argument that "real football fans" prefer PES because you are just full of it. I never buy a game before playing it anyways so like ther rest of everyone here i will wait until both come out and see who delivers the better football game over all.

I will never understand why some people say this every year because i don't think it's true . EA catching up ? well if the main thing is graphics and licences that u are looking for ok then u are right.
But when it comes to gameplay and if u are really a football fan and if you play football in real life u will never say this.

EA is so far behind that if it means i have to sum up why i say this then u are not even worth having the game in ur console, so please make a real football fan happy and give it to him as a surprise because u just like playing a stupid game with alot of hipe and glamour.
i also played the demo and i was impressed by the rain and the wet player faces and........ nope that was it so i just can not understand why people keep saying that.
where i live people are trying to sell their fifa 08 and i keep seeing the advertisements every day hell i am even trying to sell mine and no one has called yet so i will keep saying it , it depends on what u want from the game .
I know it isn't perfect but it's much better then fifa any day.

 

[Lami]

I don't like to argue but apparently you can't read what I say. And for the record, I am a professional football player in my country and have been playing my whole life.

I have been playing football games ever since I can remember, and the first one I played was ISS by Konami in Super Nintendo. In N64 I only never played a FIFA game, until I bought my PS2. The only FIFA game i've owned was 2003 and then i changed over to PES because it was simply better and i didn't mind the no licences, like i said before.

I play no less then ML games a day, and sometimes i even do a whole year in one weekend, so i know this game inside and out and i know every glitch and every little thing that is wrong with this games, and that is why i say that Konami needs to really improve.

Like someone said before, i am saying that konami just does the bare minimum every year to put a new full prce game out there while EA just continues to improve, and yes, the gameplay in Euro 2008 is better than in PES 2008, granted that Euro is a newer game. And i'm only judgeing on the demos.

So go somewhere else with your argument that "real football fans" prefer PES because you are just full of it. I never buy a game before playing it anyways so like ther rest of everyone here i will wait until both come out and see who delivers the better football game over all.

Well to be honest man PES used to bring us quality and realism. That is why i switched from Fifa to PES more than 10 years ago. Fifa back then felt so scripted and boring with the same runs, passes, and goals. Then came along PES with its randomness which to me was a beauty. I could finally be creative and not just single minded. Enjoyed All PESs until PES 2008 dropped and sorry to say i couldn't stand it, even after all the editing I've done to it.

Fifa 08 was a breathe of fresh air, it looked amazing plus the great atmosphere. But then it was sluggish and unresponsive, including other faults. Euro 2008 was faster but we don't want a faster game. Infact Fifa 08's pace is quite right, only the unresponsiveness needs some fine tuning.

I'm hoping Fifa 09 build on Fifa 08 and fix all the bugs and faults, and Konami realise this is next-gen era. Time to move on to next-gen engines and such and give us a better PES in PES 2009.

 

[joshevo]

i like all games

 

[scoles_1]

I bought pes2008 as soon as it came out, since iss it has been the only game that i play until the release of the next, but this year is different. . . . its poor, very poor. i notice someone further up the post wrote the following:

"But when it comes to gameplay and if u are really a football fan and if you play football in real life u will never say this."

What a crap comment. ive just finished playing a game on top player between utd and chelsea, 26 shot s on goal from me and 15 for chels and i won 6-1. . .what kind of game is this. the game is so fast paced and no players have any weight to them. yes the ball physics are better but AI? im not convinced. i bought fifa and although the game is still sh*t the players dont wonder from their positions even though you have told them not to, the keepers dont make ridiculous parries from the wekest shot. . and i have full control over through passes long balls and shot! if fifa improved ball physics, players like ronaldo were more deadly and players rected quicker to commands it would be far far better than pes. . . . . as much as i am ashamed to say it. Games on pes seem to be the same over and over again the same passage of play leads to a goal, with fifa i have to put sum good passing together make some time for my shot and beat a player with a drop of the shoulder just to make a chance. Pes is far to easy and io want to be able to be skillful with players like ronaldo!! Not some lame stepover!

If pes and fifa don't step it up next year i guess ill still be playing pro6 and COD4!

 

[RAMAXWY]

ok you say you play pro football then tell me how can't u appreciate this game every decision you make in attack and defence can change the whole outcome , the way you trap the ball can determine if the opposition can get to it or not , your patience in defence pays off 75% of the time because even when the pressure is at its highest if you keep a cool head just like real football you can get out off it.

you say you know the game inside out, well i don't, because i don't have the time but i do play every game like it's a final and i don't sit in with coffee or thee and grab a fast game before i go to work because that doesn't work this game needs ur full concentration and i like it like that.
everytime i read something like this i give fifa another try because i think too myself i must be missing something this is my PES site and i got to know most off u guys because we play the same game and we all loved it , so if most off u switched to FIFA i think to myself check it out again.
well i played it again for two days and yes FIFA has improved but when u say it's catching up ( hell no ) it's no where near.
a few off you complain about the pace well i think the pace in PES 2008
is just right the pace in FIFA is too slow and the players response is even slower.
again i say u said u play football and still u can't appreciate what they've done here well i just can't understand that. let me add this i've edited the game with statts from pes statts database with statts from guys like PLF , DELPIERO, RED PHOENIX,MILANISTA ETC and it really improves the game.
me and my friends most off them also play football we all agree that PES 2008 is much better then FIFA 08 and still i bought both just to give it a try mostly because of u guys and all the positive reviews u gave the game.

but i can honestly say i do not agree,i also played the euro 2008 demo
and still i like PES better ok .
but hey that's just my opinion so please don't get on my case because off this because some off u sounded a bit irritated let's just be glad that we have the cash to spent and enjoy playing these games.

speeking off cash i am a bitt short on it but i do have enough to buy one game this month so if u guys can help me and give me some advice
which would u prefer and please in short why.
gran tourismo ,grand theft auto or heavenly sword .

 

[Rumpers]

I'm getting both this year, but I reckon Pro Evo has lost a lot of fans

 

[joshevo]

games are good.

 

[scoles_1]

if you havnt already got it get call of duty 4, online its better than anything takes up hours!

When you said about having patience in defence, i can run (on top player) with any of my defenders all the way down the pitch and score, its ridiculous, and whilst i cant do that on fifa i still like pes better but theyre both piss poor this year

 

[FutebolArte]

if I want graphic.. I'll watch a real match... If I want to play for fun, I'll play PES