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FIFA fans....?

red

Registered User
Got to agree with the chinaman, I am \ was staunch PES since ISS, but I just recently got a PS3 and bought both games, gutted with pes2008 on the PS3 got it on the PS2 wasn't as bad, why have they taken out the lofted ball (r2) on the PS3?
Bought fifa for the be a pro, being PES using playercam for years; I didn't realise that be a pro was only a single game and the stats are not recorded etc, but then I went online, playing 5 v5 with VOIP, it is class, the response is shite, but you soon get the timing and not a disaster IMO. I will probably buy pes for be a legend, but it is already disappointed with a max of 2 v 2 online, and from the seabass interview he says online will be improved, wtf does that mean, it could still be laggy, but not quite as bad as 2008 that technically is improved, however the pudding is all in the eating, I will have to see what PES can offer this year I will definitely have an eye on FIFA though, just let me hear they have 10 v 10 and they are getting my money!
 

rocky6

Registered User
pes2009 is better sure...and i think the la liga teams are in a real kits and a real names guys.. dont worry its just a logo not licensed...
 

proevofan88

Registered User
sorry but your talking from you bumhole.

EA have done so much in just 2 years. From what Ive seen, Fifa 09 is much better than pro 09.

Gameplay is more responsive and realistic and the way players move also.

Answer me this, why do the players in pro evo move in square directions? Why does the ball not bounce like a real ball?

tbh, I m not expecting much from your reply because your name says it all. Even if fifa was to be 10 times better you would still say pes is better, being the fanboy you are. I was a pro fan up until fifa 08 came out because I accepted that fifa 08 was better. The ball curls, you can make place finishes where the bal l bends accordingly, whereas in pes, it just moves in a straight line. Also, you get those stupid situations in pes where the keeper saves the ball which goes a yard in front and a player taps in from 2 yards out. It's just too arcady compared to fifa.

This is all my opinion though so I suggest you think before you try and come up with a good insult.



have you ever saved a goal in FIFA? i mean you must have since FIFA 08 was so amazing....dont you save those amazing goals? Oh yeah you prolly couldnt i mean you score about 8 goals a match and prolly like 2 are free kicks thats how much you score in FIFA....so if you saved all the goals you would have no space on you hard drive anymore....Come on man my name is proevofan just because i like the game alot.....but lets not be fucking stupid here. If i liked FIFA 08 id rather give them my 60 dollars then give it to KONAMI . I hate FIFA games and always have because they are a monopoly who doesnt care about their gameplay and only buys off license.

and shut da fuck about about this shit for no LA LIGA.....it has the damn league it just does not have the LOGO.


have you fucking played FIFA 09?? How is everyone saying that this years version of FIFA is so great.....you didnt play it.

and by the way...i cant remeber where i read this ( and idc if you dont believe me tbh ) but a play tester that played both FIFA and PES ( 2009 versions ) said the gameplay in PES 2009 is HANDS DOWN better......thank you very much. and you call me a fanboy, yet you are out here on a PES forum bashing PES. Go to your deserted FIFA forums and talk about how many leagues you have.
 

proevofan88

Registered User
Oh and btw the way...i have TALKED to someone whos close to KONAMI and knows basically everything there is to know about the game......I wont ruin it for him or anyone whos associated with him by revealing something critical....but will put it this way......when you find out some of these things about PES 2009....you might end up apologizing everything that you have said about it. You will see....im very very very sorry that i cant reveal it i would LOVE to share it with you PES fans but i jsut dont wanna say anything cuz the guy was nice enough to reveal things to me. But be patient you will see what it is.
 

shaun7

Registered User
^Calm down Proevofan 88. The fifa fans will always be annoying. Don't take notice of them. They are trying so hard to justify that Fifa is better but how can they say? Because both games are not out yet and from the videos fifa looks like last year (though I won't judge until the final game is released) and Pro looks like an improvement and you know it's better than pes 08 so don't take any notice of those fifa fans. They're Pro evo haters so they'll see everything bad in it. I admit that Pes 08 wasn't as good as it was suppose to be. Why not. Afterall I'm not a fanboy of anything, I just play the game which I feel is best. So far Pro evo has always won. This year I'm really liking pro evo 09 and I can't see a reason why no to buy that game. It looks awesome.
 

proevofan88

Registered User
^Calm down Proevofan 88. The fifa fans will always be annoying. Don't take notice of them. They are trying so hard to justify that Fifa is better but how can they say? Because both games are not out yet and from the videos fifa looks like last year (though I won't judge until the final game is released) and Pro looks like an improvement and you know it's better than pes 08 so don't take any notice of those fifa fans. They're Pro evo haters so they'll see everything bad in it. I admit that Pes 08 wasn't as good as it was suppose to be. Why not. Afterall I'm not a fanboy of anything, I just play the game which I feel is best. So far Pro evo has always won. This year I'm really liking pro evo 09 and I can't see a reason why no to buy that game. It looks awesome.

yeah 2008 was not THAT good but still was the best soccer title available that year ( and better then EURO 2008 )
 

scoles_1

Registered User
proevofan88 you're a joker! ive always played pes and its always better than fifa for its ball physics. . . . yes pes4 might have better gameplay than fifa 08 but fact is pes2008 didn't. they were both crap games and neither were worth their money, however pes2008 has no atmoshpere and is way too fast. . .when im winning games 6 or 7-0 on top player its NOT enjoyable and i cnt even play online cos it lags so much. I hope that pes2009 is wat made us all love pes but from what i can see the atmosphere is still crap and same old animations, same crap keepers. i dont care about licenses at all. . . i wna feel like im in the game and livin evry moment of it. . . havin said that fifas ball physics are so poor and its impossible to take players on. . . i gotta feelin were gna have to wait till pes2010 for a decent footy game on next gen.
 

Lörd TH

Registered User
yeah 2008 was not THAT good but still was the best soccer title available that year ( and better then EURO 2008 )
proevofan88!
 

wrathchild_uk

Registered User
Why is there like a million threads needed its getting so boring now having a new one opened just for a noob to tell us how shit pes 2009 is....cant newbies be blocked from opening threads because its becoming a joke now.
 

vanbasten

Registered User
i still think pes 08 is better than fifa 08... plays better fifa still feels like the players r on rails... this works in a hockey game... (+ what do canadians know about football??? last time they qualified for the WC was 86...)

i agree pes 2008 was beta then fifa 08 even thou pes 2008 was poor for a pes game. i have tryed to get into fifa 08, cus i borrowed it off a m8 but i thought the gameplay and players apperances were terrible and didnt give me the feelling of playing a real football match. i also borrowed my m8 pes 2008 when i had fifa 08 and he went out and bought pes 2008 cuple of days lata :)
 

chinaman

Registered User
well there you go, anyone who says pro evo 08 is better than fifa 08 cannot be engaging in an adult discussion. Each and every single review of that game gave fifa 08 better ratings. PES 08 was absolutely poor. Im sure you all live in America anyway so you probably dont know what football is. It's not soccer...its football.
 

Baddar

Registered User
well there you go, anyone who says pro evo 08 is better than fifa 08 cannot be engaging in an adult discussion. Each and every single review of that game gave fifa 08 better ratings. PES 08 was absolutely poor. Im sure you all live in America anyway so you probably dont know what football is. It's not soccer...its football.

You've harped on about having your own "opinion," and yet you say it's wrong for someone else to prefer PES 2008 over Fifa 08.
 

]NikE[

-=BoPPeR=-
^Calm down Proevofan 88. The fifa fans will always be annoying. Don't take notice of them. They are trying so hard to justify that Fifa is better but how can they say? Because both games are not out yet and from the videos fifa looks like last year (though I won't judge until the final game is released) and Pro looks like an improvement and you know it's better than pes 08 so don't take any notice of those fifa fans. They're Pro evo haters so they'll see everything bad in it. I admit that Pes 08 wasn't as good as it was suppose to be. Why not. Afterall I'm not a fanboy of anything, I just play the game which I feel is best. So far Pro evo has always won. This year I'm really liking pro evo 09 and I can't see a reason why no to buy that game. It looks awesome.

It works both ways im afraid. fifa fans can't judge the games because they haven't played them yet? yet pes fans can freely express how much better their game is?

how is that sensible?

Fifa looks the same as last year?

Don't worry i have proof not just words!

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If you're not willing to see both sides of this arguement you'll get nowhere. Fact is fifa isn't at all just about the licenses these days. I've you've read,played or even seen anything on 09, you'll know the gameplay is the main area they are working on. They have asked the fans what they want in the game. they haven't just assumed what the fans will want and threw it together as a game.

Fact is right now PES isn't looking like its progressed at all since the ps2 days. All that has changed is the graphics.

In MY opinion. PES09 IS an improvement over 08 but 09 is exactly what 08 should have been in the first place. So to put it lightly they haven't improved they are just catching up to where they should already be with PES.

I'll be giving both games a run for their money this year. However instead of buying PES straight away like years previous, i'll be renting it and then making an opinion on it and instead of renting fifa i'll buy it at the first opportunity. I've made a judgement from actual gameplay videos on 09 and i'm pleased to say im impressed. I spend my money on something that has been worked on properly, not something that isn't showing too many signs of progression.
 

proevofan88

Registered User
]NikE[;1305899 said:
It works both ways im afraid. fifa fans can't judge the games because they haven't played them yet? yet pes fans can freely express how much better their game is?

how is that sensible?

Fifa looks the same as last year?

Don't worry i have proof not just words!

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09



If you're not willing to see both sides of this arguement you'll get nowhere. Fact is fifa isn't at all just about the licenses these days. I've you've read,played or even seen anything on 09, you'll know the gameplay is the main area they are working on. They have asked the fans what they want in the game. they haven't just assumed what the fans will want and threw it together as a game.

Fact is right now PES isn't looking like its progressed at all since the ps2 days. All that has changed is the graphics.

In MY opinion. PES09 IS an improvement over 08 but 09 is exactly what 08 should have been in the first place. So to put it lightly they haven't improved they are just catching up to where they should already be with PES.

I'll be giving both games a run for their money this year. However instead of buying PES straight away like years previous, i'll be renting it and then making an opinion on it and instead of renting fifa i'll buy it at the first opportunity. I've made a judgement from actual gameplay videos on 09 and i'm pleased to say im impressed. I spend my money on something that has been worked on properly, not something that isn't showing too many signs of progression.

I still dont understand where you are seeing that improvement in the fifa videos?...Whereas PES 2009 clearly showed improvement ( and ADAM and SUFF over from WENB even said that the game is incredible......someone from IGN hwho played both games clearly said PES 2009 was the better one...oh wait are we talking about gameplay? my bad i thought we were....but yeah since licenses are all that counts then yeah FIFA kills PES 2009...you are right. )
 

]NikE[

-=BoPPeR=-
I still dont understand where you are seeing that improvement in the fifa videos?...Whereas PES 2009 clearly showed improvement ( and ADAM and SUFF over from WENB even said that the game is incredible......someone from IGN hwho played both games clearly said PES 2009 was the better one...oh wait are we talking about gameplay? my bad i thought we were....but yeah since licenses are all that counts then yeah FIFA kills PES 2009...you are right. )

did you read a single bit of my post?
is this guy serious?

Lets make a start shall we?
First off the animations have been improved greatly from what i've seen in fifa 09 gameplay vids. for example (yeah we needs examples to back up points) the video showing cristiano ronaldo's freekick. The way in which he is brought down is a massive difference, it isn't just one animation, its 2 or more and to make it sound more appealing, he falls the same way he does in real life.

Another example or will i stop there?

Momentum.... this will play a big part in the new fifa.. players such as drogba, cristiano ronaldo.... will fall more easily than others. Adding more realism to animations and gameplay?

passing,reaction times, through balls, back tracking.... all looking better than the 08 version. take a few minutes to actually look at videos and compare them then come back here and tell me there isn't an improvement from 08-09.

Aswell as keeping up to date on fifa news i'm also doing the same for pes. I've checked out WENB's blog and their comments on pes. From what i gathered they weren't too impressed with the demo they were playing and stated they thought it was pretty much the same as the version they played the year before. They said they were told ball physics had been improved yet they seen no signs of the change.

They did state they played a version that was an improvement over 09 but in no way stated it was better than fifa 09 cause lets be fair, being the pes fans they are, they wouldn't give fifa a chance.

so yeah just to go over my first point again. Go back to my first post, read it clearly, take notice of the fact i stated opinions and facts on fifa's take on licenses then possibly reply if you feel the need to bash on more.
 

proevofan88

Registered User
]NikE[;1305903 said:
did you read a single bit of my post?
is this guy serious?

Lets make a start shall we?
First off the animations have been improved greatly from what i've seen in fifa 09 gameplay vids. for example (yeah we needs examples to back up points) the video showing cristiano ronaldo's freekick. The way in which he is brought down is a massive difference, it isn't just one animation, its 2 or more and to make it sound more appealing, he falls the same way he does in real life.

Another example or will i stop there?

Momentum.... this will play a big part in the new fifa.. players such as drogba, cristiano ronaldo.... will fall more easily than others. Adding more realism to animations and gameplay?

passing,reaction times, through balls, back tracking.... all looking better than the 08 version. take a few minutes to actually look at videos and compare them then come back here and tell me there isn't an improvement from 08-09.

Aswell as keeping up to date on fifa news i'm also doing the same for pes. I've checked out WENB's blog and their comments on pes. From what i gathered they weren't too impressed with the demo they were playing and stated they thought it was pretty much the same as the version they played the year before. They said they were told ball physics had been improved yet they seen no signs of the change.

They did state they played a version that was an improvement over 09 but in no way stated it was better than fifa 09 cause lets be fair, being the pes fans they are, they wouldn't give fifa a chance.

so yeah just to go over my first point again. Go back to my first post, read it clearly, take notice of the fact i stated opinions and facts on fifa's take on licenses then possibly reply if you feel the need to bash on more.


you are sooo stupid man......you havent read shit...heres a link to what ADAM thought of the game....which is DIFFERENT to one they are showing at LEIPZIG....

http://www.winningelevenblog.com/news/adams-perspective-pes-2009-play-test/


so they dont like the game ha? lol you fucking piece of shit....go play fifa man you are probably from america too no doubt ( i live here too and i know how stupid american people are when it comes to soccer/football ( the real football not that american shit )

FIFA graphics better then this?

http://www.winningelevenblog.com/news/just-like-the-real-thing/

yeah....right...
 

shaun7

Registered User
Let's cut this fanboyism. I'm talking to both sides. Both will have to admit that both games have improved. And pes has improved as much as Fifa. Get over it because it's real. About graphics. In Fifa screenshots, it looks pretty good but it just didn't show it in the gameplay videos for some reason. The Pes screenshots were good but in the video they looked better.
 

proevofan88

Registered User
Let's cut this fanboyism. I'm talking to both sides. Both will have to admit that both games have improved. And pes has improved as much as Fifa. Get over it because it's real. About graphics. In Fifa screenshots, it looks pretty good but it just didn't show it in the gameplay videos for some reason. The Pes screenshots were good but in the video they looked better.

dude dont make my SN make you think im a fan boy.....I like PES better and thats all. I jsut hate when someone comes here ( a fifa fan ) and starts shit on PES forums. We are all hyped about our game and hes here to ruin it. DO we do that every year before a FIFA release? go to their forums and tell em how shit their game is...I knwo i dont cuz i dont care about that game. But when PES 2009 has gotten such good reviews so far, good videos, good screenshots, and then you have some asshole who comes here and triesto tell you its all BS the game will suck...then yeah i get pissed off and he calls me a fanboy on top of it....although i only stay on this site and dont go around talking shit on fifa.....

No fanboy here jsut a guy who knows whats CLEARLY been better for the last 13 yrs....and will again be.
 

shaun7

Registered User
dude dont make my SN make you think im a fan boy.....I like PES better and thats all. I jsut hate when someone comes here ( a fifa fan ) and starts shit on PES forums. We are all hyped about our game and hes here to ruin it. DO we do that every year before a FIFA release? go to their forums and tell em how shit their game is...I knwo i dont cuz i dont care about that game. But when PES 2009 has gotten such good reviews so far, good videos, good screenshots, and then you have some asshole who comes here and triesto tell you its all BS the game will suck...then yeah i get pissed off and he calls me a fanboy on top of it....although i only stay on this site and dont go around talking shit on fifa.....

No fanboy here jsut a guy who knows whats CLEARLY been better for the last 13 yrs....and will again be.

I didn't mean you. Actually I meant to no one. I meant to quit this fighting. I have to agree with you on Fifafanboys coming to Pes forum to say how good their game is and how bad Pes is. They're retards. I respect their opinion but it's not a wise thing to be a fifa fanboy and come to this forum and it's not fair to pes either.
 
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