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Half of the Fifa guys are leaving Fifa this year and joining pes !

HanleysEars

Registered User
some of the snotty nosed little kids on that forum do my head in

"no way, fifa has always been better"

clueless twat
 

arsenald

Registered User
my GF 13 yr old son bought FIFA, and as much as we have fun playing it together, PES kills it in gameplay.... The games are so boring even he said ive only scored headers since he bought it, hes right! either header or one on one.... PES much more freedom in play, some guys on that thread explained it quite well....

I will buy it and i might ..just might be able to convert my young step son lol
 

forzamilan84

Registered User
SplChampions from page 2 of that thread made the perfect point of why I love PES.

"After 3 years of Fifa i think im going back to PES this year, PES just has feeling....when you score you jump out of your seat and you watch replays over n over, you just dont get that with Fifa 11 unless your playing with friends in the same room....for example check out some goals i have scored in both games... just cant put my finger on why Fifa has no feeling, could be down to the players being so small on such a small pitch and the camera angle not being as good as Widecam in any PES? Who knows...

But yeah had 3 great years with Fifa and i did buy Fifa 11 (qued up in Asda for 2 hours for midnight launch) but playing the demo of PES 11 it does seem as if the gameplay of PES is certainly the better one this year!"


Then of course you have your usual "How can you even consider that, Pro evolution is terrible football game." or "I rather stick with FIFA 08 DEMO than going back to that crappy game that Konami made."
 

arsenald

Registered User
this is my fav quote and what i have meant all along.....


"I read a lot of posts in which it is claimed that Fifa is simulation-minded and PES arcady. In my opinion it is the other way around. I can fully imagine, that when you play 5-10 games of PES, you would support this opinion. PES strength starts to show after 20 games or so. It's at that point the feeling of reality ( read : freedom ) really starts to kick in, as you are then accustomed to the controls and game mechanics.

I buyed both of the games... Gave them both a try... and for me PES has much more football-feeling. The freedom of passing is just fantastic, when you really start to get used to it. Anything is possible in PES, as in real football. While in Fifa it's mostly one-two one-two through ball. I like it when games are pushing me to be creative, oppurtunistic. Not knowing what to do next, but deciding it in a split second based on the actions of my opponent. For me, PES ( mind me : after 20+ games or so ) is clearly the best football game.

There are flaws, in both games though. Flaws that pull the user away from reality. These from reality diverging flaws will always be in games though. That's why it are called games. Games can only try to approach reality, but they'll never get there. Pro Evo approaches reality in a slightly different way then Fifa does. It's down to personal taste which approach of reality one likes... But mind yourself, in the end it are just games.

Forgive my mistakes, I don't speak or write english so well."
 

shaun7

Registered User
Well, this is the first time that both games are good.
Fifa 11 made some solid improvements from 10 is SOME KEY AREAS SUCH AS SHOOTING
BUT IT LOST OTHER AREAS LIKE THE AI and everything surrounding it.
I feel that the passes are missed not because of player's position or movement or just the passer's accuracy, BUT BECAUSE THE STUPID AI DECIDES TO. I am 100% sure about this.
Ofcourse this happens in pes, but much more minimal, because although the game cheats, the AI won't decide it that much for you, because it depends on the angle of the pass, position and balance.
In fifa this is not the case as the AI influences this heavily. I totally hate the AI in fifa 11. Ps1 games had better AI. Jesus, I can't see how some people are missing this huge fact.
But overall, fifa 11 is still better than fifa 10 but then again, pes has made some serious improvements this year. So I'll happily play both.
When I get pes full version, I'll see how it compares to fifa after a week of playing.
But yeah, pes deserves praise this year for bringing the magic back. In the demo when I score the emotion is solid like the ps2 days.:)
 

pes89

Registered User
Good to see, means PES is good :) or maybe it doesnt just that FIFA could be bad who knows.
 

riahc3

Registered User
PES 2011 sucks because its turned into FIFA.

If you play PES 2011 you are basically playing FIFA. Thats why FIFA players are jumping to PES 2011.
 

RAMAXWY

Registered User
PES 2011 sucks because its turned into FIFA.

If you play PES 2011 you are basically playing FIFA. Thats why FIFA players are jumping to PES 2011.

wrong cause FIFA never ever gave u this much controle and freedom when passing, dribbling and setting up ur tactics.
PES doesn't have personality plus:rolleyes:and pro passing:lol:still you have always felt and still feel the difference in the players.
i could go on but i think this is enough so what are you talking about?
 

lyc10

Registered User
wrong cause FIFA never ever gave u this much controle and freedom when passing, dribbling and setting up ur tactics.
PES doesn't have personality plus:rolleyes:and pro passing:lol:still you have always felt and still feel the difference in the players.
i could go on but i think this is enough so what are you talking about?

i agree, i rented fifa 11 last night...almost every goal i score are 1v1, and the pro passing just doesnt seem too pro lol, through balls seem like they never work unless its a one two. oh yea, and finesse shot is just over power in fifa lol
 

DIECI

Registered User
PES 2011 sucks because its turned into FIFA.

If you play PES 2011 you are basically playing FIFA. Thats why FIFA players are jumping to PES 2011.


haha, this also happened with NBA2k11, they are morfing that series into NBA Live as well. Whats with all the EA influence? Their games suck!
 

shaun7

Registered User
PES 2011 sucks because its turned into FIFA.

If you play PES 2011 you are basically playing FIFA. Thats why FIFA players are jumping to PES 2011.
That's totally not true as I have fifa 11 full version and the pes demo and they're nothing alike.
Well, pes 11 did implement some features from fifa (but modified) like the power bar, more difficult shooting (though the powerful shots are still better than fifa's) and more freedom especially the passing. But that's because they were a plus side for fifa. All people who watch football know that pes 10 was restrictive and unresponsive and it implemented some features that were a plus side from fifa. What's wrong?
NOTHING. Especially because they're still very different even though they both try to simulate football.
But pes 11 is nothing like fifa 11. They're different.
 
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