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Ideas Compilation Post.

*Clueless*

Registered User
I would like to see something I came across on an old footy game back in the days, can't really remember the name, but was on maga-drive.
How many real life matches do you see the players stroll off at full time, with kits as clean as when they walked on with.? So what I'm saying, is that the kits should become dirty when the player goes to ground, nothing OTT or anything, just something realistic..

Overall, I have to say all in all pes 2011 is a much improved version, not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but HAS to be the best footy title available right now.. Yes I could repeat many other comments about the game, such as goalkeepers, ridiculous defence AI etc etc..

Although It would also be great to be able to import png images in the edit mode (360), not to mention an updated edit mode, no dispespect to the current fantastic edit mode, but hasn't it been the same format etc for the last several pes releases right back to the ps2? (correct me if I'm wrong)
 

claret

Registered User
when online i would like to be able to see head to head statistics when you are waiting for the games to load, just simple things like played, won, lost, goals scored, conceded and highest score.
 

DigitalFootball

Registered User
Please add an option to turn off cut scenes and replays. They can interfere with the game too much. I want to be able to play a match that resembles what I see when I go to the stadium. there are no replays and cut scenes there! :)
 

St.Zwailla

Registered User
Q. How long have you been playing PES?
A. Since 1996

Q. What are the aspects you like most about PES?
A. If you ask about old pes/we series then smooth and free gamepley.

Q What are the aspects that you don't like about PES?
A. In the new PES i dont like new gameplay,penalty system, new camera wide, pass, cross... and... well i dont like it at all.
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Bring back Winning Eleven 8 gameplay! Old camera -wide-, old penality, maybe to make petition?

Edit:

Just look at Mortal Kombat series, they tried something different and when they failed they realized that the old is what works best. PES 09/10/11 in gameplay cant come close to WE 8 ...

Some videos that can remind us of good old times. I had a blast with my friends back then... Just listen to chants and how game is ALIVE compared to new PES.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xeg90NwMkk
 

afavti

Registered User
Ideas & suggestions for PES 2012

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Please Konami, bring back the option to watch all the results of the games when playing in the community mode, bring back the option to watch the statistics of how many yellow & red cards each team has. (like in previous PES editions)
And please let the replays be complete to watch the whole movement of the ball, until it stops moving. Longer replays, to watch how the ball hits the ground, the net, bounces on the florr until it stops moving.
I hope Konami takes into account my suggestions.
Thank you
 

afavti

Registered User
Please Konami, bring back the option to watch the final scores of all the games when playing in the community mode(or bring back the option of playing in the league mode with national teams), bring back the option to watch the statistics of how many yellow & red cards each team has.
And please let the replays be complete to watch the whole movement of the ball, until it stops moving.
I hope konami takes into account my suggestions.
Thank you
 

dolcem

Registered User
Could you add regens under Master League/Become a Legend mode? As in rather than having existing players be reborn as 17 year olds when they retire, the game should generate new players every season (like what happens in every other sports game). Maybe each team has a youth academy or something, or if that's too much, just give each team one or two of these generated players every season as 16 year olds. And of course generate players from other countries not attached to one of the teams in the ML/BAL that you can buy. This by far is the biggest drawback for PES and FIFA...if they add in this feature I don't care what else they do to it, and if FIFA does it before PES I'm switching to FIFA for the time being.
 

afavti

Registered User
Please Konami, bring back the option to watch the final scores of all the games when playing in the community mode(or bring back the option of playing in the league mode with national teams), bring back the option to watch the statistics of how many yellow & red cards each team has.
And please let the replays be complete to watch the whole movement of the ball, until it stops moving.
I hope konami takes into account my suggestions.
Thank you
 

afavti

Registered User
Also have the option of watching the halftime scores or final scores of the other games even at halftime of your game. Please let the lopsided victories happen, I remember seeing in PES 2008 AND 2009 victories like 8-0, 9-0 when a good team faced a weak team. I even remember a 10-0 from Argentina to Trinidad in PES 2008. I'm talking about cpu vs cpu, when you play international league or community mode. Please KONAMI let these victories happen.
 

Smarteeeey

Registered User
Here are my ideas for the PES 2012:

Edit mode:

Create a team - bring it back!

Generic teams - for the PES League and D2 teams, remove them. Instead make a generic league full of English teams, another one full of Spanish teams, etc... This is related to master league, It will make promotion to the top league much more interesting. The problem is that when you play in D2, as the English team, and get promoted to the English League, it just looks ridiculous as the other 2 promoted teams are foreign.

Master League Classic Players - I'm talking about Minanda, Castolo etc. Bring them on edit mode please, so I can put them on a team of my choice, or modify them a bit.

Player Attributes - Can you add extra ones like "Volley accuracy", "through ball accuracy", etc. Why? For example, in real life, a certain player might be absolutley useless at volleying, but can shoot the football off the ground really accurately.
I would also like to have an attribute labelled "Leadership", which identifies how good the player is at leading the team, giving orders, and how well the team listens to him. The bigger the leadership stat the player has, the better of a captain he is.

Player Index - Add a bigger variety for the player personality. All of them are pretty basic, and some of them like "Enforcer" or "Incisive Run" have absolutely no effect on the player's personality.

Team Kits - Have all the real teams licenced, and for the generic teams, build the kits so the teams all have different ones (all the teams in PES League and D2 have identical designs, just different colours.) to make it more realistic.
Make 3 outfield kits, and two goalkeeper kits (I'm talking about every team, not just generic ones)

Generic Player Names - The generic teams have player names which are pretty silly. I don't mind the occasional wierd name, but most of the players should have normal names.

Generic Team Location - I noticed that the licensed team in the game have their location shown on the map. If it's a generic team (or unlicensed), can you make it so I can place the location on the map? Makes it more realistic.

Generic Player Abilities - Give the generic players special abilities, the personality cards.
But one thing I noticed is that there are players which are overall 95 at the age of 20. It's unrealistic! The occasional 85 or 90 is okay, and if it's around 95 make sure the player is older than 26 years old.

Gameplay:

Most of the ideas have been mentionned by other players. Refereeing is pretty unfair, game speed, etc. But here are some more:

Animations - Make it so that players occassionally punch and headbutt each other over a bad tackle or something. Everytime the commentator says "Some players are having a right old go at each other!", all we see is two of them arguing, and the others holding them back. But make it so the fights only happen once or twice a season.
Bring more types of free kick and penalty animations, goal celebrations.
More tricks and skills.

AI - The AI needs to stop cheating! And also, I noticed when I'm near the corner flag and a player is infront of me, all he does is follow me. Make it so he can stick his foot out when I cross the ball. Also, make it so that the AI fouls more, gives away more penalties etc.
Basically, the AI defending needs to be more realistic.

Master League

Create A Team - Like PES 08, bring it back!

Negotiations - More realistic! In 5 seasons of master league I've seen Messi leave Barca for a D2 club. Sort it out!

Master League Original Players - Most of the players are rubbish, and all the good ones like Minanda or Castolo are over 35. Can you make them better and younger, please. I like the original players, but I would love them if you made them better and younger.
 

S-D-P

Registered User
Gameplay

- Calm down with the scripting, its getting a bit silly now and in some ways its more obvious than the ps2 days.
- Full 360 ratio for manual passing
- Less assisted semi auto passing
- More control over through balls(power par is pretty redundant right now)
- Fully working manual player switch
- Players need to be more responsive when using the RT button to move around for air balls
- Tone down the pressure from the AI, or have pressure in stages
- More precise standing tackle, more responsive when timed perfectly
- Less automatic interventions, no auto clearance and more control over players movement, see forum member's Amateurs ideas he explains it better than me. The dribbling is on the right path but could be less on the rails.
- make an option for manual cross without having to use left trigger
- Improved spacial and overall awareness from AI team mates
- Don't mess with the shooting too much, more variation and emphasis on user input would be good, more variation in shot trajectory by use of the analog(ie pushing forward results in more top spin, a lighter touch loft and backspin this is in pes 11 to a small degree but could be taken further)
- Smoother transitions between animations such as close control and other dribbling and running motions
- Tone down the passing speed, more variation in passing speed depending on stats and user input
- More variations in physical play, do not go to fifa 11 standards as it will kill the game
- larger emphasis on midfield play, less constant pressure

Master League and other aesthetic details

- Improve the AI's intelligence when making transfers, avoid unrealistic transfers such as messi leaving barca all the time in ML
- Keep the scouting system, but let us manually input the transfer fee, more options for negotiation
- Add the ability to make cash plus player offers
- More focus on media in ML, ie mock news articles and a news hub
- Net editor or stadium specific nets
- Improve the atmosphere, chants don't have to be perfect but it feels a bit dead at the moment
- Improve the lighting and graphics for night games
- Flares and banners for leagues such as Serie A
- Bring back the snow, an overcast setting without rain.

some more ideas to do with gameplay....


- Remove auto clearance or have option to turn it off, nothing should happen unless I input a command, if a ball hits a defender the ball physics should account for this, I don't want to see the defender auto clearing it away even if does hep you in certain situations, I want to be in control of the stats.

The above goes for anything within the gameplay, no automatic interventions unless selected otherwise.

- This is the same sort of point as above, I'm tired of players heading the ball when I have another player selected. Too often on this game another AI player on my team heads the ball without me pressing anything, this needs to be gone for 2012.
 

Smarteeeey

Registered User
There should also be a finesse shot button like in FIFA. I go for a one on one and the striker just smashes it at the keeper. For some reason you can only take a finesse shot from an angle, or when taking a penalty...

Also, the AI just seems to control my players. The AI makes my players slide tackle when I don't tell them to. This is really the same point as the person above, but it needs sorting out.
 

thenotsogood

Registered User
- Enable a two yard pass to actually work. When I take a throw in I want to be able to give it back to the throw in taker, not gift the other team a throw in.
- Stop the defenders from being able to catch up so easily, I know people get peed off with speed demons online but seriously, what's the point of a speed attribute if it equates to nothing?
- Adding to that... Defenders can change the direction they're running in with minimal effort, I've made a turn qith a quick player on the ball and despite the defender taking an extra step, being statistically slower, and generally (and logically) reacting to the situation slower than my player, he still gets it off my feet before I can take my next touch.
- More slide tackle animations so I don't find myself going through people, I want the player to hook the ball of the player, not put him in hospital.
- Get some consistency with the keepers, one minute they can diving catch a Gerrard bullet but the next they flap at a ball rolling on the floor at walking pace?
- Simplify penalties. Sure, it's innovative, but it sucks. If you're going to change it because FIFA changed their's then keep it simple. If not, keep it the way it was. I also don't get how the penalty system changes depending on a penalty given from a foul, or a penalty shoot out.
- Speed up keepers distributing the ball, it kinda nullifies a counter attack when your keeper takes too long to get up, then turn around, and then slowly throw the ball to someone.
- Improve first touch control. I want my first touch to take me away from the defender, not into a whole group of them.
- Chesting the ball down: a sure fire way to give the ball away, sometimes they even chest the ball twice because the first one was so bad. This needs fixing, and it needs to tie in first touch control, too.
- And why the hell does a player have to overhead kick the ball so frickin' much? The ball comes at headheight and he overhead kicks it, pretty much always resulting in it flying over the bar. Just header the fucker!
- AI auto-shoot when you cross the ball into the box, why are they so shit with their accuracy? I know you see a sitter being missed week in week out, but if the AI takes over the shooting for that split-second I can't react... Why does it always fly over the bar or go wide? Even from the 6 yard box?
- And that said, why do reaction shots that I'm in control of always go to the keeper? Even though I'm aiming for the left of the goal when the keepers at the right, he'll place it right at the keeper. Very frustrating.
- Last one, I've noticed most clearances go straight to the feet of their own player whereas my clearances go anywhere I don't really want it to.

Wait, more...

-Team mates reacting to loose balls when you get tackled, they simply don't react quick enough yet their players are straight on it. In fact, your team mates will carry on their runs despite...
- ...Them not giving you a single option when you're on the ball. They'll often tease you by starting a run, and then stop just as they're about to make that defining step. Which sucks because you now have no-one to play in, and...
- ...The game is not designed for taking people on at all. Firstly there's the speed issue, and then there's the issue with...
- ...The jostle system totally biased to the AI. basically, if a defender latches onto you, you may as well just give them the ball. Not only that, they'll properly shove you off the ball and give no foul away. Which is fucked up because...
- ...Initiating a jostle usually ends up in you giving a free kick away. And just generally the referee not knowing the difference between winning the ball and going through a player.
- Oh, and often my players will take sometimes up to 3 extra touches before passing the ball, which 3 touches is usually how many you can take even if the defender is on the over side of the pitch.

Two more...

- I can't help but feel that the opposition defenders make an action depending on what button you press and not the animation you make. For instance, a defender just then should have been goalside on me, but as I pressed to turn away he moved in the same direction before me and took the ball off easily.
- And generally, when you're getting tackled, you seem to stumble all the time, and then do that shitty standing still thing where you can't try get the ball back.

Other general gripes...

- Player selection has to be majorly improved. Too many times I'm not allowed to select the player best suited to get the ball. And too many times the CPU auto selects someone, only to deselect them and choose someone further away. It's frustrating knowing that a player is going to get the ball quicker than the opposition to only be deselected and stop running, thus losing the ball for your team.
- So to sum that one up... Fix the auto select, and implement a more accurate way of selecting players. FIFA's right analogue stick seems to do the trick on this one.
- Diving headers. Players still manage to get this one so wrong despite having gallons of time. Yes, I just used capacity to desribe how much time they have. And even when they don't totally miss it like a spacker, they still manage to head it out of the box rather than into the goal.
- Your entire team staying in an offside position when you have a corner and play it back in after a clearance. I don't think I have to elaborate on this much. Fair enough one or two players, but six?
- Getting two yellows for winning the ball... And blatantly winning the ball at that.
 

the nameless

Registered User
Also, the AI just seems to control my players. The AI makes my players slide tackle when I don't tell them to. This is really the same point as the person above, but it needs sorting out.

This MUST stop! My computer recently got my captain sent off by doing this. That is not "engineered for freedom" when the cpu does things wrong for you.

I have an idea I would like to share/propose to Konami. I know alot of people would not like it as it would break up the game a bit, but I would like be able to select a defender from the pause menu when the opposition have an attack. Far TOO MANY times, the computer have an attack and my highlighted player, when constantly pressing the change player button, flicks between 2 players behind the attacker, when I have players in front of the attacker just uselessly backing off. I can seldom ever catch them up, because players with 70's and low 80's for speed stats can always outpace my mid - high 90's players. I want to be able to choose to go my centre backs, rather than flicking between 2 AMF's.

I would also like to see the psychic defenders stop. They know when you are about to do a cut back, and defend it perfectly - even if they are as shit as titus bramble.

Also, in my master league, 17 teams play 4-5-1. It is boring, drab, and has zero variety. It has SEVERELEY dented my enjoyment of ML, and I'm just grinding out the 10 years trophy now. I may very well try it on a friends or rent 2012 because if it happens like that again, I wont want to play it, certainly not for 10 years, so I would like it to be more attacking - I wouldn't mind if I conceded 3 goals a games, as long as they dont just try to grind out 0-0's.

Lastly, please, bring back swap deals. Why did Konami get rid of them? They were a perfect way to manage on a small budget.
 

Crimsov

Registered User
Back in the past i used to play Spurs' kick n rush n charge playing (missed you so my pes 6..) but with this game out, it completely ruins my style for good. i want my money worth it..i want an option so we can choose from the oldies and newest controlling style..i actually love the breaking move whenever you let go the button then the player slowly walks his way, moves his foot back and forth and sprint like mad when i press the sprint button.
Not this way when you go challenge a defender and say goodbye to your ball wholeheartedly easy..sad just sad.. please God hear my praying..
 

mrwoo

Registered User
Back in the past i used to play Spurs' kick n rush n charge playing (missed you so my pes 6..) but with this game out, it completely ruins my style for good. i want my money worth it..i want an option so we can choose from the oldies and newest controlling style..i actually love the breaking move whenever you let go the button then the player slowly walks his way, moves his foot back and forth and sprint like mad when i press the sprint button.
Not this way when you go challenge a defender and say goodbye to your ball wholeheartedly easy..sad just sad.. please God hear my praying..

yeah, you can't stop and take a defender on, they'll just run at you and win the ball which makes wingers pretty useless in the game unless you pass to them in space and they're clear to make a run.
in pes 2012 they should look at how they did it in pes 6.

gameplay is too fast paced even on the slowest setting - the only reason why barcelona are tricky on top player are because they pass the ball around so fast. the AI's attack is always the same - they barely try any long balls or any variety to their play, just gets boring.

as many people have said, the game needs better ball physics and the animations still need lots of work. i think that could make a big difference in the feel of the game if they were improved, similar to fifa's.

also, the sound effects - heading the ball doesn't sound right and sounds too loud, same with kicking - you can barely hear the ball being kicked at all when watching an actual match. the crowd atmosphere sounds dead half of the time as well.

i also agree with what people have said about the lobbed through balls - there's no option to trap it or control it, the player who's chasing it just watches the ball bounce along even if it's about to go out of play.

Another thing that is frustrating is how if a player is jostling with you and you try and pass the ball, he always stumbles and falls over and makes a weak pass which goes about 2 yards and is intercepted. same if you want to shoot- the ball always goes floating over the crossbar at about 2 mph - unrealistic.
 

afavti

Registered User
Please Konami, bring back the option to watch the final scores of all the games when playing in the community mode(or bring back the option of playing in the league mode with national teams), bring back the option to watch the statistics of how many yellow & red cards each team has.
And please let the replays be complete to watch the whole movement of the ball, until it stops moving.
I hope konami takes into account my suggestions.
Thank you
 

afavti

Registered User
Another good idea would be to bring back the option of watching all the halftime scores, I think it was in PES 2008 where you could do that. That was a cool thing to do, because while you were at HT you could watch other halftime scores or even one or twoo final scores, for me that was a great option and made it feel more real. Please KONAMI take into account the suggestions
 

afavti

Registered User
Konami please let the lopsided victories happen again, just like in pes 2008, where tou could see 8-0, 9-0 and even i saw a 10-0 from argentina to trinidad and tobago please bring lopsided victories back
 
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