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[LIST] The cheating goes on and on...

CheatersSuck

Registered User
110% ??? i reckon ur just getting stuffed by these players and then reporting them as cheaters..... either that or ur the unluckiest player online to come across so many cheaters.... or maybe its ur internet connection?? time u got broadband and throw that 56k modem in the bin



No you idiot. First of all, he chose some team with all C ratings. Secondly, he put a striker as his goalie. 3rd of all, his disconnection % was around 70. 4th: He quit in 3 minutes. 5th: I messaged him and he replied with a smiley face. I said 110% for a reason you uncultivated, uneducated, lack of reading comprehension, insignificant waste of bandwidth.

And accusing me of falsely accusing these players because I lost to them? That is called projection. Go to University to learn about that in a Psychology class you out-of-your-league dwarf.

I am not even going to respond about how wrong you are that you are here to try to blame the victims because I know your intent wasn't sincere and wasn't to defend potentially falsely accused players; it was to try to get revenge for me smacking you around through my discourse and diction in another thread.

Lesson of this post: You are a butt-hurt idiot who previously got owned by my intelligence in another thread and currently too you failing-to-be-a-significant-vindictive-infantile-troll.
 

markcross

Banned
No you idiot. First of all, he chose some team with all C ratings. Secondly, he put a striker as his goalie. 3rd of all, his disconnection % was around 70. 4th: He quit in 3 minutes. 5th: I messaged him and he replied with a smiley face. I said 110% for a reason you uncultivated, uneducated, lack of reading comprehension, insignificant waste of bandwidth.

And accusing me of falsely accusing these players because I lost to them? That is called projection. Go to University to learn about that in a Psychology class you out-of-your-league dwarf.

I am not even going to respond about how wrong you are that you are here to try to blame the victims because I know your intent wasn't sincere and wasn't to defend potentially falsely accused players; it was to try to get revenge for me smacking you around through my discourse and diction in another thread.

Lesson of this post: You are a butt-hurt idiot who previously got owned by my intelligence in another thread and currently too you failing-to-be-a-significant-vindictive-infantile-troll.


hahaha classic... i bet u aint got a bird either lol
 

wheresmark

Registered User
No you idiot. First of all, he chose some team with all C ratings. Secondly, he put a striker as his goalie. 3rd of all, his disconnection % was around 70. 4th: He quit in 3 minutes. 5th: I messaged him and he replied with a smiley face. I said 110% for a reason you uncultivated, uneducated, lack of reading comprehension, insignificant waste of bandwidth.

And accusing me of falsely accusing these players because I lost to them? That is called projection. Go to University to learn about that in a Psychology class you out-of-your-league dwarf.

I am not even going to respond about how wrong you are that you are here to try to blame the victims because I know your intent wasn't sincere and wasn't to defend potentially falsely accused players; it was to try to get revenge for me smacking you around through my discourse and diction in another thread.

Lesson of this post: You are a butt-hurt idiot who previously got owned by my intelligence in another thread and currently too you failing-to-be-a-significant-vindictive-infantile-troll.

Your intelligence? And prior you refer to a person as uncultivated?

I went to Leeds University and studied human psychology and cognitive science. Please inform me about projection and exactly how what you just spouted was relevant given the context?

failing-to-be-a-significant-vindictive-infantile-troll?? So he's failing to be infantile? or failing to be a significant vindictive? Neither make any sense.

Grow up.
 

CheatersSuck

Registered User
Your intelligence? And prior you refer to a person as uncultivated?

I went to Leeds University and studied human psychology and cognitive science. Please inform me about projection and exactly how what you just spouted was relevant given the context?

failing-to-be-a-significant-vindictive-infantile-troll?? So he's failing to be infantile? or failing to be a significant vindictive? Neither make any sense.

Grow up.

1. Grow up?

So person A comes into a thread on listing cheaters you have played, and attacks/trolls person B who is listing cheaters he has played with. Clearly and objectively, person A is in the wrong.

Then person B responds to the troll and defends himself.

And you find that it is the grown up thing to do is to attack person B, especially considering that fact that it did not involve you at all? Or did it involve you?

You see, from your superfluous post which was a revealing tirade on your part, I can tell you suffer from a narcissistic personality disorder. You are an insecure person who feels threatened by the intelligence of others, and the seething that my important(to you) post produced caused you to respond to satisfy your obsessive compulsion to try to knock down anyone with any sort of alpha-male characteristics in order to make yourself feel less smaller than you are.

2. "failing-to-be-a-significant-vindictive-infantile-troll?? So he's failing to be infantile? or failing to be a significant vindictive? Neither make any sense. "

Someone who alleges to be educated should refute and challenge another person based on substance, not semantics that you are not modish enough to understand. Not being based on substance, your post demonstrates your attempt to revile me, instead of sincerely refuting me, which in turn demonstrates my aforementioned point that you are an insecure, unaccomplished, underachiever who decided to try to pick a fight after feeling threatened by another's clearly evincible intelligence.

3. "I went to Leeds University and studied human psychology and cognitive science. Please inform me about projection and exactly how what you just spouted was relevant given the context?"

You are unequivocally lying; without any doubt. Anyone who has studied psychology, cognitive science, behavioral science, or anything of that nature(even in middle school) could be able to easily see the impeccable use of projection in that context. It would be impossible not to see it. In fact, it is a near textbook example of projection. It is like me saying "Ronaldo was the best striker" and then your responding that I misused the word striker. Very embarrassing on your part.

4. I quickly reread this post: OUCH! that's gotta hurt

To be honest, it gave me satisfaction that I inadvertently made you angry. And then I completed any further back-and-forth of me smacking you down with this post so I shall let you sit there miserably seething in your low-self esteem.

Owned idiot.
 

wheresmark

Registered User
1. Grow up?

So person A comes into a thread on listing cheaters you have played, and attacks/trolls person B who is listing cheaters he has played with. Clearly and objectively, person A is in the wrong.

Then person B responds to the troll and defends himself.

And you find that it is the grown up thing to do is to attack person B, especially considering that fact that it did not involve you at all? Or did it involve you?

You see, from your superfluous post which was a revealing tirade on your part, I can tell you suffer from a narcissistic personality disorder. You are an insecure person who feels threatened by the intelligence of others, and the seething that my important(to you) post produced caused you to respond to satisfy your obsessive compulsion to try to knock down anyone with any sort of alpha-male characteristics in order to make yourself feel less smaller than you are.

2. "failing-to-be-a-significant-vindictive-infantile-troll?? So he's failing to be infantile? or failing to be a significant vindictive? Neither make any sense. "

Someone who alleges to be educated should refute and challenge another person based on substance, not semantics that you are not modish enough to understand. Not being based on substance, your post demonstrates your attempt to revile me, instead of sincerely refuting me, which in turn demonstrates my aforementioned point that you are an insecure, unaccomplished, underachiever who decided to try to pick a fight after feeling threatened by another's clearly evincible intelligence.

3. "I went to Leeds University and studied human psychology and cognitive science. Please inform me about projection and exactly how what you just spouted was relevant given the context?"

You are unequivocally lying; without any doubt. Anyone who has studied psychology, cognitive science, behavioral science, or anything of that nature(even in middle school) could be able to easily see the impeccable use of projection in that context. In fact, it is a near textbook example of projection.

4. I quickly reread this post: OUCH! that's gotta hurt

To be honest, it gave me satisfaction that I inadvertently made you angry. And then I completed any further back-and-forth of me smacking you down with this post so I shall let you sit there miserably seething in your low-self esteem.


In a word, wow!

The post I made prior to this was a 'revealing tirade on my part' ? The post was many things, a tirade it was not; your reply was a tirade, which in turn shows most of the traits you pointed out in 2.

You were attacking someone about their lack of intellect and then spoke so incoherently that anyone with a shred of knowledge had to interject.

Your misuse of your vocabulary makes you sound like a foreign exchange student who has just been handed a thesaurus. Yes I do show narcissistic traits, but on a lower level completely incomparable to that of your own.

The anger shown in my post is minimal, you incorrectly mistook anger for pity, just as you incorrectly psycho-analysed me.

How many mistakes would you like to make in one post to just render yourself a complete tool.

I quote, ''after feeling threatened by another's clearly evincible intelligence.'' another's ? So you have evincible (another of the countless words used in the wrong context) intelligence, why the ' ?

I quote ''make yourself feel less smaller than you are'' Less smaller? where on earth were you educated?

Underachiever? threatened? smacked down? unequivocally lying?
Anyone person with a reasonable amount of sound logic, forethought and intellect would not make such damning accusations. I own my own business and I am extremely successful in the sports teams I represent, in my social life and also in gaming, yes I could be achieving more, as could every single person in the world on some level.


You seem to be a person who thinks that his broad lexicon (albeit used incorrectly) is a barometer for dick measuring. There will be no smacking down of myself or oneself back and forth as this is my last comment on the subject as I would not want to keep this charade going and bring myself down to your level.

Thanks for making me go to bed with a massive smile on my face :)
 

CheatersSuck

Registered User
I can answer the question asked in your user name: where's mark? I know!


Mark was lurking in this thread for the next two hours after his pedantic, ineffective, defensive, desperate, rambling, fallacy and anger filled post(and periodically lurking on the main forum page), obsessively and miserably refreshing this page, desperately seeking for some sort of closure that I will not allow him to have as Mark feigns indifference and fulfillment. That F5 button sure must be worn out! I knew my post hurt really bad; it was intended to be agonizingly distressing. :cool:

So typical, so predictable, so small, so affected, so insecure, so easily manipulated*, expressing common and textbook traits of his personality disorders, and most importantly for my personal satisfaction, still seething as I knew he would :cool:

And I just posted this out of spite and pure personal gratification :)

Oh and how did I know? Something called "Current Activity" in one's profile. :cool:

In a word, BUSTED!

:D
 

markcross

Banned
cheaters u make me laff, i really hope u r serious and not just playin a joke lol, please go off on 1 again, i cant stop grinning thinkin bout u sat there gettin all wound up....
 

wheresmark

Registered User
I can answer the question asked in your user name: where's mark? I know!


Mark was lurking in this thread for the next two hours after his pedantic, ineffective, defensive, desperate, rambling, fallacy and anger filled post(and periodically lurking on the main forum page), obsessively and miserably refreshing this page, desperately seeking for some sort of closure that I will not allow him to have as Mark feigns indifference and fulfillment. That F5 button sure must be worn out! I knew my post hurt really bad; it was intended to be agonizingly distressing. :cool:

So typical, so predictable, so small, so affected, so insecure, so easily manipulated*, expressing common and textbook traits of his personality disorders, and most importantly for my personal satisfaction, still seething as I knew he would :cool:

And I just posted this out of spite and pure personal gratification :)

Oh and how did I know? Something called "Current Activity" in one's profile. :cool:

In a word, BUSTED!

:D

You are hilarious, I have an Iphone, that has safari, that stays on the last page you were in - Dickhead.

The only time I came back was before I went to sleep when I commented about goalkeepers on my laptop. But thanks for showing everybody on here your clear obsessiveness about trying to better yourself over other people, thus yet again showing all the characteristics you were rambling on about in point 2 in your original argument. I can't believe you spent 2 hours of your pitiful life, checking up on a member of a forum who you (and you alone) think you are having some kind of massive mental thermonuclear war with.

Thank you for re-confirming all the points I mentioned. Now as I said, I am not dragging myself down to your massively insecure and elitist and strangely obsessive level, moreover I don't wish to listen to your pathetic drivel, If you were such a intellect as you claim, you would see all the sings of what you are yourself; I have now seen you call 3 different people ''insecure and a underachiever'' evidently the tell tale signs of paranoia about ones own personality complex.
 

sniper09

Registered User
For xbox360 users. Avoid this player, his name's killermenilis. His profile says he's from Greece, and he even has his own community with his namesake as the communities name.

I was having a game with him on MLO in a ranked match, I was leading 2-0 when the game gets abandoned at the 87th minute. He then sends me a message " ooooohhhhh noooooooo ohhhh nooo". So it was a deliberate disconnection on his part, I never got the win and I never got any money, there was no recollection of the result.

I checked his profile. He's ranked 544 in Div 1 with 28 wins and only 6 defeats at the time of me making this post. His match completion rate is roughly 77%, so I can only imagine he's done this several times already.

Once again avoid him, killermenilis, xbox 360 users remember the name and block him, because he will disconnect if you're beating him and then send you messages mocking the fact that he cheated.
 

CheatersSuck

Registered User
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

What happened? What happened to not responding? lol (oh, and I am 100% certain that you read this or will read this post, regardless if you respond)

In a word, Gotcha!

I told you that you were an unequivocal liar! :D

1) "as this is my last comment on the subject as I would not want to keep this charade going and bring myself down to your level. "


Liar liar! :D

But then again, note the asterisk in my previous post....
" so easily manipulated* "

lol i knew it that you couldn't contain your self in face of defeat and had to respond by throwing everything but the kitchen sink in desperation; i knew you would be so easy to manipulate... Talk about forethought!(oh the irony... wow I'm clever! Purposely did that to directly make you eat your own words again.. this time 'forethought' :D) Gotcha!

2) "You are hilarious, I have an Iphone, that has safari, that stays on the last page you were in - Dickhead. The only time I came back was before I went to sleep when I commented about goalkeepers on my laptop.

Lmaoo.... nooooo. I saw you periodically go to PES main page forum, then back to online forum, and then back to this thread(not just once either in that cycle). And conveniently posted in the goalie thread immediately after I did. Busted! Wow, what a compulsive liar you are. :)

The only explanation to you lying about this is after conceding this e-altercation to me, you are so self-conscious that you are trying to save face for other posters in this forum... lol. I just addressed you and only you, but now using terms like "thanks for showing everybody", your insecurity and your loss is forcing you to seem at least superficially happy. (pssst, here is a hint... no one else cares :D) lol, again, expressing common, typical, predictable and textbook traits of your personality disorders

Liar Liar... Gotcha!

Though now that you are caught in a 100% lie, it is obvious your face is so red from embarrassment and frustration that my slick and superior conversing abilities has caused. And yah, it is obvious you won't break your word again and respond because you just got caught flatout lying. And someone as insecure, and empty like you will just live in denial which will go along nicely with your other defense mechanisms. You will wait a few days, not post, not even visit here, wait for a few days to past, and then start posting in other threads as if nothing happened, and leave this e-smackdown in the back of your subconscious to help you feel less stupid. So typical.

Gotcha!

3) another lie is obviously you saying you studied human psychology and cognitive sciences when you do not even know what projection is or even realize an example of projection when you see it(another point you conveniently avoided and stayed in denial of). Also clearly lying about misused vocab as it's evincible that you do not know what evincible means(and that just made you more angry :) ) (and ironically, your last post epitomizes projection... lol)

4) "Now as I said, I am not dragging myself down to your massively insecure and elitist and strangely obsessive level,"

But wait, you already did mr. manipulated tool... why lie again? :D:D


Waaaay too predictable and easily manipulated. Lol, though I kinda cheated. I used my knowledge of your personality disorders, and not only did I trap you, but I lead you to feed into your symptoms and made you behave like I wanted you to. Oh wait, I am just being repetitive; I already summed it up before in a much more concise fashion: mr. manipulated tool.


"ones own personality complex"
It is one's and not ones in that context mr.pedantic-grammar-nerd-who-only-tries-to-highlight-grammar-mistakes-and-common-spelling-mistakes-because-of-the-feeling-of-self-inferiority-and-of-a-lack-of-substantive-arguments. Don't let your anger that I produced cause you to forget that apostrophe that you so dearly care about. :lol:

"you would see all the sings of what you are yourself"

Sings? Doesn't make any sense. where on earth were you educated? ouch.... gotcha! :D


In a word, gotcha!

:D


ps... Like patients with your conditions are known for doing, now don't be going around taking your immense anger that I produced out on your mother, or another family member, or a vulnerable, random weak person. Take a lesson out of this smackdown; know your role and accept there are others who are much superior to you in many aspects of life. Just work hard, and try YOUR best, don't worry about envying others. Posting your resume to try to prove to others that you are a satisfied, content, and happy person is not only revealingly shallow and unnecessary, but also isn't productive nor helpful( just even more clear and common signs of your personality disorders which highlight and support my analysis of you even further). Your personality disorders become a bigger problem when you cannot control your compulsions that lead to you affecting others because of the traits you suffer from.

Or don't think you are too big and strong in your own mind to see a psychologist... because clearly you are not. I suggest you see one immediately for your own happiness but most importantly, for the happiness for those around you as the symptoms you are demonstrating clearly can produce unhappiness for those around you. Please don't refrain from seeing a psychologist out of spite or to prove a point. Seeing one doesn't make you weak, it makes you smart and strong because you are man enough to be objective and fix what you have to fix. Even you yourself stated that you demonstrate traits have having a personality disorder. Don't be selfish, and do the right thing; see a psychologist, if not for you, for those around you. You do not have the right to make others suffer because of your unwarranted pride and insecurities. It would be the grown up thing to do, so

Grow up.
 

CheatersSuck

Registered User
For xbox360 users. Avoid this player, his name's killermenilis. His profile says he's from Greece, and he even has his own community with his namesake as the communities name.

I was having a game with him on MLO in a ranked match, I was leading 2-0 when the game gets abandoned at the 87th minute. He then sends me a message " ooooohhhhh noooooooo ohhhh nooo". So it was a deliberate disconnection on his part, I never got the win and I never got any money, there was no recollection of the result.

I checked his profile. He's ranked 544 in Div 1 with 28 wins and only 6 defeats at the time of me making this post. His match completion rate is roughly 77%, so I can only imagine he's done this several times already.

Once again avoid him, killermenilis, xbox 360 users remember the name and block him, because he will disconnect if you're beating him and then send you messages mocking the fact that he cheated.

I never played with him but I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. Happened to me many times.

Konami needs to address this somehow because there are many players who do such idiotic and ill-intended things.
 

CheatersSuck

Registered User
Bader barca

Another cheater. Disconnected after a 5-1 scoreline in the 70th minutes and he gets the loss. He got recorded with the 3-0 win. I messaged and he replied in "I win". He has a terrible % rate too.

Konami!!!!!!
 

TunixNL

New Member
I'm playing PES2012 on pc. I was just playing against DemaSan. The score in the break was 3-0 (for me, Barcelona).

Then he broke the connection, when I checked the match score I saw this:



So instead of winning 3-0, I lost 0-3!

(Wstr onderbr. is dutch for match cancelled)
 

oziz14

Registered User
Mates i'm new here...I have a simple question, maybe a naive one!

At times I am playing and the game is disconnected, but how do I know that my opponent had done that on purpose??...because to be honest, it happened a couple of times when I'm losing
 

lyc10

Registered User
it depends oziz, sometimes you see that the game's running fine and smooth until the moment you score, then the wanker starts to lag the game and shortly after that the game will disconnect. On these occasions, its almost 100% sure that the guy is cheating, I've played many of the top D1 players who does this, that's why you see people with like 200 game winning streaks lol.
 

Granulated

Registered User
WTF.. this disconnect cheat was evident LAST year too and maybe years before that if mymemory recalls.

Konami are just flipping rubbish.

I want a PES6 game with updated graphics, fully tweakable cameras, longer replay times and the capacity to play online with direct IP connections like we had years ago.

The way they just keep bolting on dodgy crap onto old builds is just so upsetting.
Every year I look into the compressed folders and find ancient redundant graphics. No doubt the same this time.
 
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