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Overall Player Ratings

Ali

It is happening again
For me they seem a bit off. For example, how can a player with attributes mainly in the mid 70s, with a few 80s etc have a rating of under 70? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Tim Cahill is rated about 68 but his attributes are decent.
I noticed this with the last game, that in ML, developing players will have a lower rating than the already developed ones despite having better attributes. If that doesn't make sense, let me put it this way:
Hamsik's default rating was about 84 or something, with attributes mainly in the low 80s high 70s (I think). Wijnaldum after 5 ML seasons was rated 87 with attributes mainly in the mid-high 80s with quite a few 90s. It can't be an average, especially when the overall rating is higher than ANY of their attributes.
 

karan7

Registered User
the rating is for their specific position....if u look at Vidic his a defender and has 70's but his defence is 90...so that makes him a 90.

rooney has many 80's but his attack his a 94+ i think...which makes him the 90s as well.

and ribery has alot of 90's but his attack is 87 i think so his in the 80s.
 

Nicholls33

Registered User
Correct Karan, it averages out all the stats, but weighs favourably in their favoured defence or attacking stat. The defence/attack stat relate to how well they play in a favoured position.

When looking to buy a player look for the stats you want him to have, not his overall stat. you want a creative midfielder, look for passing (long and short, speed and accuracy), you want a goalscorer look for shot accuracy/power/technique - I know it sounds obvious but so many people just look at overall stat and it doesn't relate entirely to the stats they have.
 

Foxstar1

Registered User
Maybe the players cards also contribute to their overall rating?
Also form can effect there rating and also where you place them on the pitch in team line up.
 

Ali

It is happening again
I can see where youre all coming from. However I did a little experiment. I created a new player using Cahill's attributes. I didn't base copy, just wrote them all down. I put on the same cards in the same order and the overall came to 73! Same position etc too.
 

Danny1234567

Registered User
What happens if you play someone out of position? Their overall drops dramatically but does it actually effect the way they play?

For instance D'Agostino can play AM and DM, but put him in CM and his Overall drops into the 60s. Does this mean each individual attribute drops as well?
 

L3g0la5

Registered User
Well yeah it does affect the way they play. Not sure if their individual attributes drop as well but i'm guessing it might. But the thing with playing someone out of position, from wad i noticed is that unless they have the ability to actually play in that position, they will often get caught out or simply go MIA in the match.
 

blaugrana90

Registered User
Player stats are compeletely f*cked up. Go to www.pesstatsdatabase.com and edit prefered teams from there, according to their stats making
 

forken

Registered User
yea i was shock when I saw that Eden hazard top speed is 75...I cant play this game without an option file with edited stats...
 

alx-9

Registered User
The overall rating for a player is that of the stats for the favorite position he's marked as. So whilst Cahill is a 70 something rated player in other positions, the overall rating only applies to the position next to his name.

Its not exactly and average either, and yes player cards (formerly known as star abilities) also influence the rating in a positive way.
 

metsuri69

Registered User
When looking to buy a player look for the stats you want him to have, not his overall stat. you want a creative midfielder, look for passing (long and short, speed and accuracy), you want a goalscorer look for shot accuracy/power/technique - I know it sounds obvious but so many people just look at overall stat and it doesn't relate entirely to the stats they have.

100% true.. people, stop looking the overall rating. Stop it, right now. Period. Only the stats what you want your player to have matters.
For example target player, look for HEIGHT (doesn't affect overall in any way), header, dribble accuracy, and shot. You can end up having very good target man, with overall even under 70. Especially if his main position is for instance Winger, but can play CF and you move him to CF his overall will look very low. But he still does the job.
 

Bite.Me

Registered User
Overall means pretty close to nothing!

It's no substitute for actually looking up his complete stats.


I still don't understand why they put it in the game... it's useless!
 

Ali

It is happening again
Yes, I do wish they took the overall ratings out of the game. It's very misleading. That's why its good to have a scout in ML that can see the stat's from the off.

Also, it's quite common that certain highly rated players just... don't do it for me. For example, I find Ibrahimovic to be useless, yet if I use eg Valencia or Villareal online, Mata and Rossi are awesome for me. In ML, Rodrigo Moreno (young Bolton player on loan from Benfica) is performing like an 85 rated player at the moment, when in fact he's only 73. The less said about Daniel Sturridge (a loan signing in the previous season) the better.

So maybe it's all subjective, people! If you like a player... he will perform... if you don't... he'll be rubbish!

EDIT: Just realised the above poster is a Benfica fan. Thanks for loaning us Rodrigo - at least for my ML side's sake.
 

iamcanadianeh

Registered User
Don't look at this negatively, look on the bright side. The fact that a player's overall stat doesn't make him what he is means you can find some real bargain players, which is especially useful in MLO. I've built my MLO team all by finding players who's stats are better suited for a position other than what their preferred position is. For example, buy a player who is 60 overall and his preferred position is AMF, but you notice he's not that good at passing (important for an AMF) but his shooting and heading skills are out of this world for a player rated 60. You buy him for cheap because his overall rating is what his price is based on (unless others have bought him many times), then change his position on the pitch to CF and voila, you have a player with 70 overall rating for the price of 60 (which can mean half price basically). By replacing the default players with players like this you can actually make a lot of money, for example finding a player who is going to be 67 overall to replace Ruskin is pretty easy, and when you do you'll see that the player you found is only going to cost you a fraction of Ruskin's salary, again, because the cost is based on the overall stat (which might be 61 or something in his preferred position), not the actual stats in the position you're using the player (where he will have a stat similar to Ruskins but also several better attributes if you choose the right player).

Some of the best deals on Defenders I've found are players who play DMF as their preferred position, but are ten points better as a CB. My SBs are also converted CMFs or SMFs.

Works wonders.
 

iamcanadianeh

Registered User
Don't look at this negatively, look on the bright side. The fact that a player's overall stat doesn't make him what he is means you can find some real bargain players, which is especially useful in MLO. I've built my MLO team all by finding players who's stats are better suited for a position other than what their preferred position is. For example, buy a player who is 60 overall and his preferred position is AMF, but you notice he's not that good at passing (important for an AMF) but his shooting and heading skills are out of this world for a player rated 60. You buy him for cheap because his overall rating is what his price is based on (unless others have bought him many times), then change his position on the pitch to CF and voila, you have a player with 70 overall rating for the price of 60 (which can mean half price basically). By replacing the default players with players like this you can actually make a lot of money, for example finding a player who is going to be 67 overall to replace Ruskin is pretty easy, and when you do you'll see that the player you found is only going to cost you a fraction of Ruskin's salary, again, because the cost is based on the overall stat (which might be 61 or something in his preferred position), not the actual stats in the position you're using the player (where he will have a stat similar to Ruskins but also several better attributes if you choose the right player).

Some of the best deals on Defenders I've found are players who play DMF as their preferred position, but are ten points better as a CB. My SBs are also converted CMFs or SMFs.

Works wonders.
 

zeus0407

Registered User
Like said before overall rating is just some average of 25 skills player use, its not same average for every player (AMF will have different grades for skill then DMF) and its pure crap cause of bad overall some grat players look bad like Terry who is one of the best defenders in the world and has overall i think its 86 im not sure, and my opinoin is if looked that way he should be 93 at least.
Also Konami did real bad when building some players, for exapmle Ronaldhino and Pato. Everyone who knows anything about football knows that Ronaldhino is way past his days of glory and yet he has 95 ratin and Pato who is way better the him is 87 i think.

P.S. as Chelsea fan i think they did some really wrong things with mine club :(
 
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