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A lot of people have complained about the lack of Dribbling Tricks in PES09. And they have every right to do so, because it's a very limited number of skills and animations.
There have also been a lot of complains about the Dribbling Controls. With a lot of fans complaining about the New Dribbling Concept and the fact that the Roulette is fixed to the Left Stick.
So I wanted to know, what do you guys want to see in terms of Dribbling with the ball?? Do you prefer Shoulder Button Tricks -or- Right Stick Tricks, similar to FIFA's Dribbling Concept??
For my part, I don't see why the Right Analogue should be used for Dribbling Tricks.
I mean, it can be fun for awhile... I won't deny that whenever I play FIFA09 I do enjoy having a laugh with the Right Stick -but- after hours of play, it just feels unnecessary and over-worked... as well as unrealistic and unresponsive.
Having my Right Thumb shifting from the 4 Key buttons to the Right Stick continuously... after hours of playing it, it just feels too over-worked.
In my opinion, Shoulder buttons + the LEFT Stick are much more intuitive and responsive controls.
With the Shoulder buttons I just Tap L1 + maneuver with the LEFT Stick -and- my Right Thumb always stays put in the Key buttons, which makes for more Intuitive and Responsive Play.
Or I just Tap or Hold the R2 button + maneuver with the LEFT Stick -and- my Right Thumb stays put in the Key Buttons... which again, makes for more intuitive and responsive play.
In Pro Evo the Trick that I use the most is the "Fake Shot". I don't use it excessively, because I don't like to exploit it that much -but- I do find it the most effective and intuitive trick in the game.
And it's done by Tapping Two Different buttons in quick succession + the LEFT Stick for direction.
This means that your Right Thumb stays put in the Key buttons, which makes it a more Intuitive and effective control -because- you can pull off the "fake shot" and then quickly follow it up by shooting.
The fact that your Right Thumb stays put in the key buttons -makes- the transition form Dribbling to Shooting the ball that bit faster. Which is always important because Timing is essential in Football, and chances are usually split-second decisions.
So this is Why I think Konami should elaborate on the "fake shot" dribble -and- Holding the L1 button + Tapping One of the 4 Key Buttons is pretty much the same concept as the "fake shot". And the L1 button could easily Complement with the R2 button and R1 button.
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* Holding L1 + Left Stick for Direction = Drag Back, Roulette, Flicking the Ball...
* Double Tapping L1 = Step Over.
* Holding L1 + Tapping One of the 4 Key buttons + Left Stick for directions = countless of dribbling possibilities.
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My opinion is that the L1 button is being wasted Solely on Step Overs... and I think the L1 button could easily take care of many different types of dribbling tricks -and- could easily complement with the R2 button and R1 button.
* Something I would like to have and feel that PES is lacking, is a Button for "setting up" different Dribbling Tricks.
For example, if you are using Zinedine Zidane, by Tapping the L1 button + directing the Left Stick to the Left: Zidane would pass the ball to his Left Foot and will protect the ball with his Right Foot. This will encourage the opponent on Zidane's Left to "bite" into the challenge.
By doing that you would "set up" the perfect opportunity to pull off a Roulette Dribble.
So, if the Roulette Dribble is fixed to the (x) button... this would mean that you Tap the L1 button + direct to the Left via the Left Stick: Zidane passes the ball to his Left Foot, therefore encouraging an opponent into "biting" and at the same time "setting up" the perfect situation for a Roulette.
After doing that, if the opponent bites into it -you- just Hold L1 + Tap the (x) button + direct it with the Left Stick: Zidane does the Roulette in the desired direction.
* Setting Up dribbling moves haves a lot do with the Position of your Body in relation to the ball -which- is something that is directly linked with the Technique and Shielding ability of each individual, and something we cannot do (consciously decide) in any Pro Evo to date. I think it could easily be implemented into the L1 button, and it could complement with the R2 dribble.
A button for "setting up" different dribbling opportunities would make one-on-one play that bit more tactical from both an Attacker's point of view -and- a Defender's point of view. Body Feints are also a popular and effective tool for creating opportunities.
So perhaps by Tapping or Holding L1 + Tapping the (o) button + Directing with the Left Stick -the- player will do a "Body feint" in the desired direction.
Anyways...
I think Dribbling Tricks should be all about Shoulder Buttons + LEFT Stick maneuvering. The Right Stick can always work for a couple of Advanced Dribbling moves -or- other purposes.
PS - Would like to hear your opinion on this matter... thanks.
There have also been a lot of complains about the Dribbling Controls. With a lot of fans complaining about the New Dribbling Concept and the fact that the Roulette is fixed to the Left Stick.
So I wanted to know, what do you guys want to see in terms of Dribbling with the ball?? Do you prefer Shoulder Button Tricks -or- Right Stick Tricks, similar to FIFA's Dribbling Concept??
For my part, I don't see why the Right Analogue should be used for Dribbling Tricks.
I mean, it can be fun for awhile... I won't deny that whenever I play FIFA09 I do enjoy having a laugh with the Right Stick -but- after hours of play, it just feels unnecessary and over-worked... as well as unrealistic and unresponsive.
Having my Right Thumb shifting from the 4 Key buttons to the Right Stick continuously... after hours of playing it, it just feels too over-worked.
In my opinion, Shoulder buttons + the LEFT Stick are much more intuitive and responsive controls.
With the Shoulder buttons I just Tap L1 + maneuver with the LEFT Stick -and- my Right Thumb always stays put in the Key buttons, which makes for more Intuitive and Responsive Play.
Or I just Tap or Hold the R2 button + maneuver with the LEFT Stick -and- my Right Thumb stays put in the Key Buttons... which again, makes for more intuitive and responsive play.
In Pro Evo the Trick that I use the most is the "Fake Shot". I don't use it excessively, because I don't like to exploit it that much -but- I do find it the most effective and intuitive trick in the game.
And it's done by Tapping Two Different buttons in quick succession + the LEFT Stick for direction.
This means that your Right Thumb stays put in the Key buttons, which makes it a more Intuitive and effective control -because- you can pull off the "fake shot" and then quickly follow it up by shooting.
The fact that your Right Thumb stays put in the key buttons -makes- the transition form Dribbling to Shooting the ball that bit faster. Which is always important because Timing is essential in Football, and chances are usually split-second decisions.
So this is Why I think Konami should elaborate on the "fake shot" dribble -and- Holding the L1 button + Tapping One of the 4 Key Buttons is pretty much the same concept as the "fake shot". And the L1 button could easily Complement with the R2 button and R1 button.
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* Holding L1 + Left Stick for Direction = Drag Back, Roulette, Flicking the Ball...
* Double Tapping L1 = Step Over.
* Holding L1 + Tapping One of the 4 Key buttons + Left Stick for directions = countless of dribbling possibilities.
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My opinion is that the L1 button is being wasted Solely on Step Overs... and I think the L1 button could easily take care of many different types of dribbling tricks -and- could easily complement with the R2 button and R1 button.
* Something I would like to have and feel that PES is lacking, is a Button for "setting up" different Dribbling Tricks.
For example, if you are using Zinedine Zidane, by Tapping the L1 button + directing the Left Stick to the Left: Zidane would pass the ball to his Left Foot and will protect the ball with his Right Foot. This will encourage the opponent on Zidane's Left to "bite" into the challenge.
By doing that you would "set up" the perfect opportunity to pull off a Roulette Dribble.
So, if the Roulette Dribble is fixed to the (x) button... this would mean that you Tap the L1 button + direct to the Left via the Left Stick: Zidane passes the ball to his Left Foot, therefore encouraging an opponent into "biting" and at the same time "setting up" the perfect situation for a Roulette.
After doing that, if the opponent bites into it -you- just Hold L1 + Tap the (x) button + direct it with the Left Stick: Zidane does the Roulette in the desired direction.
* Setting Up dribbling moves haves a lot do with the Position of your Body in relation to the ball -which- is something that is directly linked with the Technique and Shielding ability of each individual, and something we cannot do (consciously decide) in any Pro Evo to date. I think it could easily be implemented into the L1 button, and it could complement with the R2 dribble.
A button for "setting up" different dribbling opportunities would make one-on-one play that bit more tactical from both an Attacker's point of view -and- a Defender's point of view. Body Feints are also a popular and effective tool for creating opportunities.
So perhaps by Tapping or Holding L1 + Tapping the (o) button + Directing with the Left Stick -the- player will do a "Body feint" in the desired direction.
Anyways...
I think Dribbling Tricks should be all about Shoulder Buttons + LEFT Stick maneuvering. The Right Stick can always work for a couple of Advanced Dribbling moves -or- other purposes.
PS - Would like to hear your opinion on this matter... thanks.
