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PES 2012 Demo 2 >>> PES 2012 Retail Release

Mr Maverick

Registered User
After being driven to the point of throwing my controller down at the constant annoyances of this game be it the crap shooting, player ignoring through balls, crap keepers and God Mode AI, I decided to load up the demo to see what exactly changed.

IMO the game is FAR better on the demo than the retail release, shooting is PERFECT, you can aim with power in the corner how you want it, the game feels more fluid and not like things are against you like the retail release.

This just makes me wonder, why did they change it? Yeah the demo had that weird lag but all they had to do was fix that and the game would have been perfect for me.

I'm I the only one who enjoyed the demo more than the real game? Had the real game been like that demo 2 it would have been the best PES to date imo
 

itsame

Registered User
Must say i agree, this game is frustrating as hell and simply isnt enjoyable. Ive tried to like it and was optimistic it would get better, i have brief moments where everything goes smoothly and i think wow this is awesome, but then it goes into full retard mode for the next 5 games.

And all this patch talk is surely placebo, i havent noticed any positive changes. Goalies are still fucked, defenders just allow the cpu to loft a ball through and dribble 30 yeards before unleashing a shot into the top right corner (i play BAL btw). Then in attack yuo are expected to break down 11 men in and around the box... Its a fucking joke tbh

Not a fan of FIFA but this year i think ill give it a go
 

itsame

Registered User
Ok i take back what i said earlier.. i rented fifa and lasted all of 10 mins. Fucking horrible i cant believe i complain about PES
 

techboy11

Registered User
Ok i take back what i said earlier.. i rented fifa and lasted all of 10 mins. Fucking horrible i cant believe i complain about PES

Lol, I've said it a thousand times and I'll say it again, FIFA is always better (in your head) when you're not playing it.

As soon as you put the disc in, it literally takes me about five minutes and I thank God for PES, for all its faults.
 

icky10

Registered User
After being driven to the point of throwing my controller down at the constant annoyances of this game be it the crap shooting, player ignoring through balls, crap keepers and God Mode AI, I decided to load up the demo to see what exactly changed.

IMO the game is FAR better on the demo than the retail release, shooting is PERFECT, you can aim with power in the corner how you want it, the game feels more fluid and not like things are against you like the retail release.

This just makes me wonder, why did they change it? Yeah the demo had that weird lag but all they had to do was fix that and the game would have been perfect for me.

I'm I the only one who enjoyed the demo more than the real game? Had the real game been like that demo 2 it would have been the best PES to date imo


Yes i agree with what you are saying, demo 2 was more enjoyable & overall a better product than the finished game, i also thought i was the only one who thought this. I also think PES 2011 was an overall better game even with its flaws instead of building on this konami seemed to have scrapped & come with a new system which has more flaws, also the graphics for this seem like they are from a playstation 2.
 

zzidane

Registered User
I have the perfect solution...

Switch off the commentary and it works. Try it, it's weird but it really works and plays like demo 2 with the commentary off. You can't just play music in the background though or mute the sound, commentary has to be turned off. ;)
 

p34semm

Registered User
Lol, I've said it a thousand times and I'll say it again, FIFA is always better (in your head) when you're not playing it.

As soon as you put the disc in, it literally takes me about five minutes and I thank God for PES, for all its faults.

Amen brother.
100% spot on
 

Daxy

Registered User
Yep completely agree the demo was soooo sweet. I mean after playing the demo i was so fukin pumped to play the whole game i couldn't wait. but how do they spend all that time creating a game they then release a demo of and in just two mouths from the demos to the full games release they fuck it up so badly.

these two links are a bit long winded but you see the massive difference in between the demo (in this case demo1) and the final product.

Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLCxaFLRoJE



Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-iWQMEtRc8
 

DIECI

Registered User
you guys know why they tweeked the final game and didnt leave it like the demo?? 2 main reasons..... The offenses are too over powered in the demo, the defenses were horrible and tackling was almost impossible vs fast guys like Lavezzi, Robihno etc.... Then... with the shit keepers, a well placed shot would almost guarantee you a goal. So what did Konami do? They improved the goalies a bit but most of all they ruined the shooting accuracy to keep the scores low and realistic. If you guys remember, the 1st day online we were getting some crazy scorelines. They noticed this and relesed the patch to improve the goalies/ruin the shooting and passing accuracies.

I could tell you , as much as this game has so much potential, its fun, looks great etc etc its also the most frustrating PES I've ever played because of these factors.
 

Daxy

Registered User
Fair enough but still watch the youtube link. Its the way the whole AI of the team worked together to attack and defend. If it was just shot accuracy and goalies changed it still would be hell of a lot better then what it is now.
 

Somnium

Registered User
Totally agree with the OP. Absolutely gutted at the monstrosity the retail version is. Demo 1 was awful, 2 was sublime and like many I was led to believe it was indicative of the final version. It certainly isn't. Shooting is randomly atrocious, the opposition no matter who they are have super human powers of recovery for chasing you down even if you get a 30 yard head start on them, their midfield and defense is jampacked with indisciplined headless chickens, through balls are about as accurate as shooting, frequent off the ball collisions with unselected players completely destroys any possibility of fast flowing attacking/counter attacking, etc, etc....

I'm absolutely gutted that the game is as bad as it is, especially as I skipped the equally poor 2011 leaving me 12 months without my PES fix. Looks like it'll be 24 months now or possibly even longer as 2013 needs a complete overhaul and even at that, chances are next years demos will be little more than a con again.

I still refuse to have anything to do with FIFA, its even worse than the latest PES.

Gutted :(
 

ArvD*

Registered User
100% agreed with OP!

DEMO2 seems like PES heaven compared to PES2012 1.02!
DEMO 2 got me thinking that this could be the year it all changes!

Then the final game comes out...
The 2 patches!

MASTER LEAGUE - SUPERSTAR

Its a broken piece of scripted mince!

Passing - Broken and feels numb...Thru Balls are broken!
Shooting - Broken and feels numb...
Goalkeepers - STILL broken...
My AI Players-
WHY they decide in EVERY game to part like the red see!
WHY when the CPU attacks, the inability to select the person i want!
WHY do the players, when defending just stop running?!
WHY do my attacking players NOT overlap or continue runs down the wings?!
WHY do my attackers run offside, and NEVER think to get back onside when they do run?!
WHY is the through Ball either a PILE DRIVER or a useless pass to defending team?!
WHY in ML, do players complain about not being played, IMMEDIATELY after the 1st game they get dropped..usually cause they are either PURPLE or Unfit!!!!!?!?
WHY is ML SO Scripted?! Every game feels its going round the same race track...


CPU AI Players -
WHY do the CPU goalkeepers seem better at making the "simple" saves compared to mine!
WHY do the CPU goalkeepers seem better at making the "CRAZY" saves?!
WHY do the CPU players not seem to suffer the from limp shots from outside box?
WHY do the CPU players seem 90% certain on winning ANY 50/50 header...
even a 160cm winger V 180cm RB?!
WHY do even the "lower" "smaller" teams go through spells of Barca God like mode?!

List goes on....
I am a PS3 user...and modder...
and no matter what amount of tweeking i do...makes HEHAW difference!

IS the PC version as broken or has it been saved a bit from the patches created by users?
What started off as hope with DEMO2 has turned to near hatred and rage!...lol

ALSO...
Refs?! WTF!
Demo1 was strict, but fair...
Demo2 was decent, but more lenient than demo1...
1.02 - Again, tweeked for the worst!

FIFA - played it...liked it...
played it some more...don't play it now...
On surface and 1st few games...you think YES!
After 15 games...the boil starts to were off!

Even as broken as certain parts are of BF3...
THANK GOD i have an online game i enjoy playing!
PES - Thumbs Down!
 

Rasmus

Registered User
Yeah after playing the second demo i actually thought i was going to play pes 2012 right until 2013 gets released, and not only play it for 3-4 months as previous versions :) But as you mention the patches did something horrible to the game.
 
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