Pes 2013 ?

[ilyasmad]

At least for the first time this gen, they are actually polishing and fixing the current game for the next game. Currently it feels like we are playing betas after betas

Alright, since konami has a knack of destroying the demo code for the final game, lets just say "konami, dont listen to us, keep the demo code for the final game".

 

[Sickdl]

Damn, the inevitable happened. Hopefully they'll build a lot on this PES 2012 engine. I just no that it won't have FIFA-esque animations and just a few more from the animations from PES 2012

I know it a big disapiontment. But when you think of it. It is a smart move,we dont want another next gen f.. Up like when we went from ps2 to ps3. And they can still fix a lot in this engine. But we dont see a big shocking overheal for pes2013. And back in the day pes5 and 6 also used the then old engine.

But as it seems now konami compleetly redone the keeper, passing and shooting. And there was something with animations cant remember tho was a while ago. But soon the annauncement will start.

I think we can get a pretty need pes2013. If konami just impove stuff for pes2012 and not compleetly messes stuff up again. Built from what you have. But we dont know till a day in october. Cause good demos doesmt mean sht wiht konami lol

 

[OCKRASS]

Damn, the inevitable happened. Hopefully they'll build a lot on this PES 2012 engine. I just no that it won't have FIFA-esque animations and just a few more from the animations from PES 2012

This maybe be good news for many who are hoping this new release of PES2012 will soothe the wounds from the horrific game they release ..well just months ago.

However, based on Konami/Seabass record....I don't see how anyone would believe that they have created a better game in a shorter time frame than what the had between Pes11 and Pes12.

What this is basically ...i believe, is a push to recover money from the poor sales or PES12. The game will be the same.

Please read the article again if you have to. It did not state that there will be any fixes or new updates ...just all the dlc's will be included.


It will be the same game ...just reduced. Packaged with all the new dlc.

Other games have done this as well.

 

[Sminky]

Aye, I read the article and I could not see any mention of AI improvements or changes in code relating to game play. Disappointing really. Had they made some changes to the game I probably would have re-bought it but as it is it's still as bad as FIFA in my eyes.

 

[Stu1983]

Wish list for PES2013...

- Remove the stupid cut scenes in Master League except when you sign a new player. It does my head in constantly having to say the same thing over and over again.

- Bring back the news ticker. It was on PES11 at top of screen and would give you snippets of news from around the World.

- I want latest scores to flash up during games. FIFA 11 had this, it was excellent. Only other game I remember implementing this was Actua Soccer back in the day. Would add so much to the game, especially during relegation/title deciders.

- Sort out the set-up of teams. I had to adjust all the sliders as I found games were just ending 1-0 or 0-0 cos' the computer would just sit 11 men behind the ball.

- Scrap the through ball. It's pathetic how many times it just bypasses about 6 players and sets someone through on goal to score. If not scrap it, tone it down to be less effective.

- A better presentation for the Transfer Market news. All you get is a stupid tiny badge and half the time I have no idea where the player has moved. It would be nice just to have a basic list under headings like - Player - From - To - Fee

- Info. Why can I no longer view results from other Leagues? I used to check to see who my next European opponents were playing and their result. Can't do that anymore (well, I can't find a way)

- Form. The form arrows are a waste of time. For an example, I had a striker who scored a hat-trick, on a red arrow. Next game comes around, his arrow is purple and down and I have no choice but to drop him. Stupid. The only time the players arrows seem to tally up with anything is if you don't play them and they just get a constant downer. It just feels like it's random generated, which could be another bit of scripting

- Realism. I'm not talking results but one big blooper Konami let slip through. Here is what happened. Baled, my CB, is injured for 26 weeks. In that time, I can't pick him to play cos' he's injured. BUT... Guinea manage to call him up and he gains 7 International caps. Maybe they thought no-one would notice but I did and it's another stupid glitch.

There are other things and I must say, I've gone back to PES11 because PES12 was, to quote the Happy Mondays - twisting my melon man. I think it's the scripting, teams like Wigan turning up and scoring 4 in 20 minutes while playing like Brazil.

I've not played much PES11, I'm currently editing a load of stuff into an old Daymos file to bring it smack up to date. I even got FIFA 11 for 99p, but after an hour I wanted to smash it up cos' it was turgid crap.

Here is hoping PES13 will be an improvement and feel less like it's been made for a 12 year old child instead of proper Football enthusiasts.

In the meantime, I'm off to finish Dinamo Tbilisi on PES11...

 

[kn23m]

Remove overall rating and bring back pre-set formations which was in PES 5 (PS2)!!

 

[abu97]

Removing the overall rating would make the layout different - no game plan where you can pick and plan

 

[techboy11]

Weight and movement of players needs to be addressed for me. Acceleration stat has to be re-introduced. Variety in team layout (eg offside trap, deep laying defence). Variety in individuality, technical players need to be pass masters, difficult to dispossess etc instead of just speed and strength being the be all and end all. CPU possession near enough 50/50 with the human player (unless team strategy is strictly counter attack for example). Dribbling needs to be harder with non dribbling players. Graphic aesthetics, real life grass textures and make night games more vibrant. Real time weather and changes. Stats for defenders re-introduced - a gameplay balance between defence v attack.

 

[OCKRASS]

Aye, I read the article and I could not see any mention of AI improvements or changes in code relating to game play. Disappointing really. Had they made some changes to the game I probably would have re-bought it but as it is it's still as bad as FIFA in my eyes.

Sup Sminky,

For me, the bad part about Fifa is the Impact Engine. It just doesn't work as it should. I am still having trouble with the new defending system also but I must say it it much more realistic to real football.

None of the games will represent football in a true to life realistic way. I think that would be very hard to do. However, I like the steps that EA and Fifa are taking to make the game advance in a positive way instead of changing menus and color schemes every year to fool people.

In terms of PES 2013 ....same sheeit,,different year.

 

[Thori]

ive some ideas for pes 13 (if continued series)
1. MORE tricks for god saces!
2. Licensed or unlicecensed bundesliga
3: 2nd league under all leagues (licensed or un i dont care)
4: New commentators! ive gone tired of listening to this jon champion all the time

thats all i can think of...

 

[Jeronimoe]

For me better a 360 control of your player, smoother animation transitioning(especially for tricks), various types of dribble, like precision dribble, skill dribble and tactical dribble. Build on the shooting from 1.01 and not the final DLC. New commentary, more leagues and teams as Thori mentioned. Also a better control scheme for tricks and the game overall. A more varied amount of collision animations. As well as we need a shielding system that we can initiate and its not done by the CPU, this would obviously be combined with some dribble mechanics.

 

[Swanee]

In terms of the game modes what would ye guys like to see done? I think they could expand a whole lot more when it comes to ml and bal while getting rid of club boss that is a stupid mode to come up with in my opinion! In ml the training, transfer market, contract negotiations,scouting needs to be overhauled to be more realistic ala fifa or football manager! The cutscenes should go but have a sub menu in the my team menu where you can interact with your staff about upcoming games,on how well or not a player is recovering from injury or even with chairman to release more cash for transfers/wages etc. Also player communications needs to be reworked! Why isnt there an option to tell a player beforehand that your resting him that would cut out every tom dick and harry complaining or better still introduce squad statuses for each member to know his role!
In bal you could get a boot deal obviously the better you become the better the deal or even have newspaper/radio interviews/photoshoots to increase your profile! Also whats the point in earning money in it if all you can buy is an agent so may have unlockables in the mode you spend your wages on! I think training is something that you could do with your player since the re-introduced it this year where you are able to do the drills to improve your player depending on how well the drills are completed!
As i said at the top get rid of club boss and maybe in its play have a classic matches mode where ttou play certain games from history and try and complete the tasks that are set out for you. between all the leagues the european and south american tournaments and the international tournaments there would be a lot of games throughout time to try and complete!
I dont ask for much do i lol but what ye guys think?