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PES 2016 Demo Discussion

kitfisto

kitfisto

Registered User
Can anyone tell me if goalkeepers are better on the PS4 version, because I can only play the PS3 demo at the moment and goalkeepers seem much worse to me than they were in PES 2015 (almost every shot from me or the ai is a goal even on highest level). Everything else is great but the goalkeepers and lightning fast shots that happen quite often make me worry a little bit (I already tried many things, long grass, playing completely on manual but it doesn´t seem to change much). I was planning to get the game alongside the PS4. So I would appreciate it if someone playing the PS4 demo could tell me if these issues are the same there?
Thanks in advance
 
Ali

Ali

It is happening again
From what I've seen so far, they're a slight improvement on PES 2015..... but that isn't saying much. :tongue:
 
rebelinho

rebelinho

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CACR25

CACR25

Registered User
After playing quite a few games since the demo was released, here are my thoughts:

Keep in mind I play all of my games either on Top Level or Superstar.
I've used all of the available teams.
8 minute halves.
PS4 console.

First I must say that I am enjoying playing PES once again. The game has a natural flow which had been missing for many years. I will definitely purchase this game.

ISSUES:


- Refs don't call fouls. I clearly get absolutely destroyed(I check the replays) but nothing is called. It went from calling everything in previous years to basically nothing this year. Balance is needed.

- Menus still look to clunky for my taste.

- Stamina feels like it's a bit off. Most of my players can easily finish each game no problem with green stamina. Need more balance.

- When passing the ball, the recipient gets frozen and does not make an effort to come to the ball but the defender does... wtf?:realmad:

-The atmosphere of the stadium needs to have more intensity for my taste.

- The game is a bit too fast on normal speed and on -1 feels too slow... wish there was a -0.5 setting :erm:

- GKs seem too overpowered at times. I had a game where I was Roma and absolutely dominated juve in the first half with almost 70% possession on top player and 8 total shots with 6 on target and juve barely had 1 and not on target... then in the 2nd half a long through ball to an open Morata for an easy goal...

2 issues here:
- Why was my defender so out of position during that lofted through ball from their side of the field? This happens too OFTEN.

- Why is it that the AI seem to be able to put a perfectly placed pass from far away when they intercept absolutely everything from me... not to mention that my lofted through passes go WAYYY TOO HIGH UP IN THE AIR. (ANOTHER ISSUE;))



Overall I am happy with the game but I wish they would fix at least some of this issues for the final version of the game.
 
Rat Monkey

Rat Monkey

Registered User
CACR25 said:
- Refs don't call fouls. I clearly get absolutely destroyed(I check the replays) but nothing is called. It went from calling everything in previous years to basically nothing this year. Balance is needed.

- Menus still look to clunky for my taste.

- Stamina feels like it's a bit off. Most of my players can easily finish each game no problem with green stamina. Need more balance.

-The atmosphere of the stadium needs to have more intensity for my taste.

- The game is a bit too fast on normal speed and on -1 feels too slow... wish there was a -0.5 setting :erm:

not to mention that my lofted through passes go WAYYY TOO HIGH UP IN THE AIR. (ANOTHER ISSUE;))

Overall I am happy with the game but I wish they would fix at least some of this issues for the final version of the game.
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I agree totally with the majority of this and have mentioned them myself already. Ref's not giving obvious fouls, or not giving obvious yellows even if they give a foul when I or the AI are hacking each other out of it.

Stamina is WAY off. Most players are not tired by the end of the game. Nonsense.

The atmosphere definitely could do with a boost in different scenarios. For example, if your constantly putting on the pressure the crowd should react to this with getting louder and egging on the team.

I can get over the menus as long as they are not as laggy as last year.

I don't find the game too fast myself. It is a little faster than 15, but then again it is more responsive. I put it down to -1 myself, and definitely it was too slow.

The lob throughballs are definitely too high. I don't mind the long range ones too much, although they are far to accurate to my liking. The short to medium range ones are like garryowens. The defenders have all day to see them at that range and it allows them to recover too quickly.

Also, pass assistance on level 1 feels a bit too assisted to me, mostly on through balls.
 
rebelinho

rebelinho

Moderator
I don't find the game too fast myself. It is a little faster than 15, but then again it is more responsive. I put it down to -1 myself, and definitely it was too slow.
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Shit, I play PES2015 on -1 speed, I guess -2 will get in handy.

Also, pass assistance on level 1 feels a bit too assisted to me, mostly on through balls.
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I guess lower than that is just OFF?
 
Dragonfly

Dragonfly

Waiting....
I don't have many issues with stamina. Maybe it's because I play a high pressing, fast-paced game, but I often have to make changes to midfielders or full-backs around 70-80 minutes into the game.

Here's that free-kick I scored with Pjanic. I like Totti's contribution.

[YOUTUBE]mRLX97VGvRA[/YOUTUBE]
 
Rat Monkey

Rat Monkey

Registered User
rebelinho said:
Shit, I play PES2015 on -1 speed, I guess -2 will get in handy.

I guess lower than that is just OFF?
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It's marginally faster than normal on 15 and I think alot of it has got to do with how much more responsive it is.

Yeah, lower than 1 is off. They removed pass assistance 4. Although, it kinda feels like in ways they removed pass assistance 1 from 15, and labelled 2 as 1 and so on due how assisted if feels sometimes. It's a bit inconsistent in how assisted it feels.

Dragonfly said:
I don't have many issues with stamina. Maybe it's because I play a high pressing, fast-paced game, but I often have to make changes to midfielders or full-backs around 70-80 minutes into the game.
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High pressure all match should have DRASTIC affects on your stamina. Online will be a nightmare if people can high pressure all match with not much consequences in stamina.
 
R

Racket89

Registered User
Question, is diving AI new? Having played PES 2015 for a good 8-9 months on PS4, I never noticed the AI dive once, but in my third game of the demo, I made a standing tackle on Totti and he got booked for diving.
 
Ali

Ali

It is happening again
I never saw it in PES 2015, but then I haven't seen it in the 2016 demo either. :huh:
 
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Racket89

Registered User
Ali said:
I never saw it in PES 2015, but then I haven't seen it in the 2016 demo either. :huh:
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Well, I was mistaken in saying he was booked. Looked back at the game capture and realised it was just a free kick. Was kinda lost in the moment as I was ridiculing myself for giving away a penalty, or so I thought, with a stupid tackle. Then I noticed the ref giving it to me and had no clue what was happening then until I saw the replay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPLzEziHEqs
 
rebelinho

rebelinho

Moderator
That was awesome.

IIRC if you pressed R3 + L3 the player would attempt a dive. Not sure what game was it though, maybe 2013?
 
Dragonfly

Dragonfly

Waiting....
Diving has been around for several years. Never seen it from the CPU, though.

Ali said:
Code for "running about like a lunatic".
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In a controlled and composed manner. :folarm:

Rat Monkey said:
High pressure all match should have DRASTIC affects on your stamina. Online will be a nightmare if people can high pressure all match with not much consequences in stamina.
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Only when not in possession. I usually dominate possession (60%+), so I'm not rushing around then, but I do like to pass and move.
 
Lörd TH

Lörd TH

Registered User
A good comparison of the default speed and minus 1. For me normal (0) feels perfect to me, I had to play 2015 on +1 speed because the default was just too slow for my liking.

[YOUTUBE]S4dzofo2SMU[/YOUTUBE]
 
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