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PES 2017 First Pics and News!

tomassi

Registered User
I'll be honest, my appetite for the new game has diminished slightly over recent weeks. I think Konami are being slightly disengenuous to be honest. I mean, they are making a huge deal of Dortmund and Schalke being 'licensed' this year, but Bayern, Wolfsburg and Gladbach were all licensed last year anyway. It's hardly and improvement, if anything it's worse because they lost Bayern.

They then go on to 'boast' about partnerships with the likes of River Plate, Flamengo and Corinthians who, again, were all licensed last year anyway. The only improvement they could have made to those teams was to make all players have preset faces etc and they haven't even bothered to do that. I can't actually see what the big announcements are for?

To be brutally honest, after about six matches on the demo I was already a bit bored. Anyone else agree, or am I alone with this?
 

alainblue

Registered User
I'll be honest, my appetite for the new game has diminished slightly over recent weeks. I think Konami are being slightly disengenuous to be honest. I mean, they are making a huge deal of Dortmund and Schalke being 'licensed' this year, but Bayern, Wolfsburg and Gladbach were all licensed last year anyway. It's hardly and improvement, if anything it's worse because they lost Bayern.

They then go on to 'boast' about partnerships with the likes of River Plate, Flamengo and Corinthians who, again, were all licensed last year anyway. The only improvement they could have made to those teams was to make all players have preset faces etc and they haven't even bothered to do that. I can't actually see what the big announcements are for?

To be brutally honest, after about six matches on the demo I was already a bit bored. Anyone else agree, or am I alone with this?



I agree I'm not rushing out to buy it this year even although 2016 was a massive disappointment after all the 20 yr hype and I'll be glad to bury it away and try something new
And besides the fact nothing massive has changed from last year other than some gameplay and in fact gone backwards as far as licences go.

introducing other leagues( African,Asian American'European anything....) teams or edit features may have got more people to come back this year
 

Macheda

Registered User
Terms of game play I am hugely satisfied.

However licenses are a huge mask, yes we now have Liverpool etc, but we lost Bayern, Juventus, Porto, and almost all of LIGA BBVA. KONAMI are actually worse than FIFA for over-hyping a game, and they don't take criticism well at all. What if you don't support Barcelona, then the licenses aren't that good. Also, the inclusion of UEFA Champions League license is pretty false when only about eight teams have their kits .

Also laughable that all the teams that were licensed with the UEFA Euro 2016 DLC now have been lost.

PS4 OF's are the only thing warranting its purchase, and to be honest they seem flawed too. yes an improvement on last year, but still a step backwards from last-gen.
 

tema44

Registered User
[MENTION=178311]Macheda[/MENTION]

1000% agree

Couldn't agree more with all of you. If EDITING will be bad this year as well - I am taking a break from PES. Love PES, but cannot stand Bhatti and his overhyping shit every year.
 

salmaninovic

Registered User

Shows that zlatan still in psg so squad are not updated.
 

tomassi

Registered User
Terms of game play I am hugely satisfied.

However licenses are a huge mask, yes we now have Liverpool etc, but we lost Bayern, Juventus, Porto, and almost all of LIGA BBVA. KONAMI are actually worse than FIFA for over-hyping a game, and they don't take criticism well at all. What if you don't support Barcelona, then the licenses aren't that good. Also, the inclusion of UEFA Champions League license is pretty false when only about eight teams have their kits .

Also laughable that all the teams that were licensed with the UEFA Euro 2016 DLC now have been lost.

PS4 OF's are the only thing warranting its purchase, and to be honest they seem flawed too. yes an improvement on last year, but still a step backwards from last-gen.

Konami should, if anything, stop wasting money on official licenses of teams that only a portion of the players support (seriously, I don't even like Liverpool so couldn't care less if they are licensed or not). What they SHOULD do is release a game with no licences at all (bear with me here!) but then give the user unlimited options to edit the game themselves.

Sure, we can import the kits, but when they have those generic numbers and letters on the back it makes it a bit naff. We need to have the ability to make everything as life like as possible, in the way that PC users patch their games. We should be able to create stadiums, we should have a similar 'face scan' like PES 2013 so we can have unlimited proper faces. We should have hundreds of fake teams in fake leagues so we can make our own.

The only limit to what we should be able to have is the size of a HDD surely? We aren't confined to a disc anymore. No one has a problem with the lack of licenses, but Konami should make it an 'open game' and let people basically do as they please with it once they have bought it.

I play PES 2016 on a jailbroken PS3 and, with the aid of a patch, it is superb. Gameplay is tweaked, plenty of faces added, updated kits whenever necessary and a whole host of other things. It's about time we could all do that ourselves.
 

kambing999

Registered User
Konami should, if anything, stop wasting money on official licenses of teams that only a portion of the players support (seriously, I don't even like Liverpool so couldn't care less if they are licensed or not). What they SHOULD do is release a game with no licences at all (bear with me here!) but then give the user unlimited options to edit the game themselves.

Sure, we can import the kits, but when they have those generic numbers and letters on the back it makes it a bit naff. We need to have the ability to make everything as life like as possible, in the way that PC users patch their games. We should be able to create stadiums, we should have a similar 'face scan' like PES 2013 so we can have unlimited proper faces. We should have hundreds of fake teams in fake leagues so we can make our own.

The only limit to what we should be able to have is the size of a HDD surely? We aren't confined to a disc anymore. No one has a problem with the lack of licenses, but Konami should make it an 'open game' and let people basically do as they please with it once they have bought it.

I play PES 2016 on a jailbroken PS3 and, with the aid of a patch, it is superb. Gameplay is tweaked, plenty of faces added, updated kits whenever necessary and a whole host of other things. It's about time we could all do that ourselves.

agreed
 

The Dude

His Dudeness
Saw a picture on twitter that shows 22 fake south american teams. So the game has like 100 fake teams. Unbelievable. That is way too much to edit. The game is 5 days away and im seriously considering getting fifa
 

CThrash13

Registered User
I've never been a PES player, but I've had a lot of fun with the demo. After seeing the lack of real teams and what looks like a lack of MLS (or even USA) league, I decided to pre-order and pay for FIFA 17 in full. I love the Premier League, Bundesliga, and MLS the most, so FIFA is just the better option for me right now.

After having a lot of fun with the PES demo, I can definitely see myself waiting a couple months and getting PES if it goes down a little in price. I'm not against having both games. I'll definitely keep an eye out for PES news over the next few months though.
 

Ali

It is happening again
Trophy list is out:

http://psnprofiles.com/trophies/5274-Pro-Evolution-Soccer-2017

At least they've some of them, but many trophies remain identical to the last 2 games. Some interesting ones:

Impregnable Fort
Faced 20 or more shots on target and kept a clean sheet


-Haha, sod off. The CPU will probably score with 80% of their shots on target, just like in PES 2016.

A True Star
Achieved a Team Role of Legend or Bandiera


-One for the ML fans.
 

AlekosG7

Registered User
The saddest thing about licenses is that Konami can't really do much for them. When Konami announced these big partnerships (Barcelona, Dortmund, Schalke, Leverkusen, River Plate etc.) EA announced partnership with La Liga, Bayern, Juventus etc., kind of as like a revenge or an answer for Konami, because EA knows that no matter how realistic PES 2017 would be, if there is not enough licenses people will more likely to choose FIFA over it and EA knows also that if PES is missing big teams it will sell even less. I also think that EA Sports might have got a bit scared because in the past years PES has won Gamescom awards, have had even better reviews than FIFA etc. and PES gameplay actually looks very good and that is why EA Sports especially this year has seemed to be very aggressive about the licenses.
 

rawkus

Registered User
The saddest thing about licenses is that Konami can't really do much for them. When Konami announced these big partnerships (Barcelona, Dortmund, Schalke, Leverkusen, River Plate etc.) EA announced partnership with La Liga, Bayern, Juventus etc., kind of as like a revenge or an answer for Konami, because EA knows that no matter how realistic PES 2017 would be, if there is not enough licenses people will more likely to choose FIFA over it and EA knows also that if PES is missing big teams it will sell even less. I also think that EA Sports might have got a bit scared because in the past years PES has won Gamescom awards, have had even better reviews than FIFA etc. and PES gameplay actually looks very good and that is why EA Sports especially this year has seemed to be very aggressive about the licenses.

As long as the Edit mode allows players to edit all unlicensed teams etc AND there is a way in sharing data for it, licenses are no issue. It is the same since the beginning of PES ;)
Gameplay over licenses :)
 

tomassi

Registered User
The saddest thing about licenses is that Konami can't really do much for them. When Konami announced these big partnerships (Barcelona, Dortmund, Schalke, Leverkusen, River Plate etc.) EA announced partnership with La Liga, Bayern, Juventus etc., kind of as like a revenge or an answer for Konami, because EA knows that no matter how realistic PES 2017 would be, if there is not enough licenses people will more likely to choose FIFA over it and EA knows also that if PES is missing big teams it will sell even less. I also think that EA Sports might have got a bit scared because in the past years PES has won Gamescom awards, have had even better reviews than FIFA etc. and PES gameplay actually looks very good and that is why EA Sports especially this year has seemed to be very aggressive about the licenses.

Exactly, Konami can't and won't ever compete with EA. Everyone knows and accepts that. Which is why I would prefer that they make a completely unlicensed OPEN game where the user has the ability to edit every single thing to their liking, by using patches etc. This way it will cost Konami next to nothing to make, they can sell it as a £19.99 budget football game and everyone is happy. As long as the gameplay remains great, everyone else can do the rest of the work for them!
 

tema44

Registered User
Exactly, Konami can't and won't ever compete with EA. Everyone knows and accepts that. Which is why I would prefer that they make a completely unlicensed OPEN game where the user has the ability to edit every single thing to their liking, by using patches etc. This way it will cost Konami next to nothing to make, they can sell it as a £19.99 budget football game and everyone is happy. As long as the gameplay remains great, everyone else can do the rest of the work for them!

100% agree with Tomassi!
 
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