I feel everyones pain with PES 2014, never in my life have I bought a PES game and traded it in WITHIN a week! It was so terrible, I was actually fuming that I was pretty much conned into buying what turned out to be worse than a BETA! I play PES 2013 a lot still - I cannot get it into my head how konami can have a decent game like that and then totally destroy it?? PES 5 is absolutely class and timeless. Extremely sad to see the series decline so much, just as I thought things were looking up again! I bought Fifa 14 as I needed a new football fix but got rid of that after a month or so as I couldnt tolerate it. Come on Konami get back to the drawing board and realise all the good stuff youve thrown in the bin!