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PES14 is dead.. Sorry guys

Bhola

Registered User
Hi guys, I live in Holland, And I play PES almost for 15 years, when it was ISS. I have the whole collection of PES. All of my friends are playing FIFA but I play PES because every year I believe in it, but I know that every year the game is going to be worse.

Some players in PES dont even look on it. And yes I know new engine blablabla, but thats no excuse to the real fans. Every year we have to wait for a DLC update with the transfers. This year it is not only the transfers, but also a lot of fixes in the game.

If a little boy wants to try PES14 for the first time in his entire life, and he see that players like Ozil is at Real, Bale at tottenham etc etc etc... Child is only 11 years old, and dont have either sense of it how to do a DLC update..

Thats also a lot of players choose for FIFA, because they always thinks that the transfers update arent did by Konami.

I have order my PS4, and I will wait for FIFA14 for it..
Sorry guys,

I have PES14 now 8 days at home, but I can't play Master Leauge because that fucking transfers, and when I'm downloading a OF for the kits, its loading to slow...

Guys be true to yourself, whe know all that PES14 is fucked up for the real fans...
 

Bhola

Registered User
I will wait for the PS4,
Mate please be true.

-Stadiums 19 stadiums only!
-No Stadium Creator
-License(Not so a big problem)
-Laggy
-The most faces are bad.
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j-mcallister

Registered User
Yes the lack of transfers is annoying...but the higher standard of gameplay should keep fans returning. The heart and stadium experience should be enough for new fans to at least try the demo. Then we have the great people who spend time creating the personal option files we can use ( something I don't think you can do on Fifa)

Another interesting factor is how konami aren't entering the next gen market which could turn out to be a very very smart move
 

myzer2005

Registered User
- Apparently there is enough extra slots to add more stadiums to the game (PC version)
- Yeah that does suck
- Like you said, no problems.
- No lag for me? (PC version)
- Faces can also be patched (apparently there is going to be a huge update soon with players faces anyway) but like I said... I am on PC so I have no problems.

But it does seem like the problems lay in the console version.
 

orlandoSPUR

Registered User
Can't just kick pes for crap transfers, from the box FIFA has Ronaldo lite at Spurs still. Konami always sends our a new data pack with updated transfers.
 

Bhola

Registered User
I have the ps3 version, also their isnt a option to base copy players like the previous edition..
I really love PES..
 

superpav

Registered User
so you say pes is dead because the transfers are not upto date.
when are they ever upto date.

if i wanted proper team names and players i would play fifa but its gameplay that counts and thats why i always go back to pes.

i dont care about boots stadiums ect
 

BrandonBett02

Registered User
mzer - it seems you're the only one who truly believes in 2014. Have you not played the early pes games, the ISS games? To know how high our expectations are, to be given this broken game. It's really a slap in the face to the fans. ITS BROKE.
 

MysteryMan

Registered User
mzer - it seems you're the only one who truly believes in 2014. Have you not played the early pes games, the ISS games? To know how high our expectations are, to be given this broken game. It's really a slap in the face to the fans. ITS BROKE.

KONAMI probably paid him to spread positive rumors about the game online.
 

Skeezix

Registered User
I just found that some of the bad faces are fixed by changing the haircuts, Rafael and Fabio for example, you put the hair as they have it, and they don't look too bad.
 

mahanddeem

Registered User
PES was never about licenses, stadiums, music or transfers(get FIFA if you need these).
Game play all what PES is about. Even if PES2014 seems like an unfinished product, even if it sucks, it plays better than FIFA 14(I have both). That's on PC by the way.
 

sabh

Registered User
I was an old member on PESInsight which is now this, PESGaming. I haven't bothered to register again mainly because a lot of my friends, PES Vets, patchers, editors left etc, mostly stay at Evo-Web but because of this IDIOTIC, STUPID, ARROGANT post I couldn't hold my tongue and signed up and now decided to reply back to this NOOB, yes NOOB, amateur PES Gamer who apparently thinks he is some ELITE player.

Let me enlighten you kid now.

PES or Winning Eleven was never known for flashy graphics, proper licenses or updated transfers. It gained popularity solely because of its GAMEPLAY.

Your list of complaints about PES 14 is so laughable it's not even funny. You complain because Bale is not in Madrid, or certain players don't look the way they're supposed to in real life, and just because of those few details YOU, the CHOSEN ONE, the freaking POPE thinks the game is totally broken ? Really, ??

PES was always aimed for somewhat mature players. Players who don't care about graphics, stadiums, boots, etc RATHER gameplay.


What made SWOS esp SWOS 96/97 on AMIGA so successful ? To this very day, this RETRO game has more players, tournaments worldwide than PES/FIFA combined ...no you didn't know that did you....what did SWOS offer ? Great graphics right..realistic looking faces, animations ETC. No retard, it offered SIMPLE quick addictive gameplay.

Now, football games have changed over the decade. 2D was/is outdated and 3D is in full control.. While PES/WE was heavily the king of football gaming in PS2 era, when it first debuted on what was next gen now current gen (PS3, XBOX360) it was shit, yes. Even I admit. And I am bigger guru than you'll EVER be when it comes to PES. PES on PS3/360 was arcade shit show with broken gameplay. Over the course KONAMI slowly improved their craft and in PES 14 they FINALLY nailed IT.

The things you mention 90% of true PES players won't give a fuck about. So quit saying PES 14 is broken because Bale is not in Madrid or you can't recognize some of your lovers in the game.

PES14 while not a perfect game, is a HUGE step to what made PES famous and that is the gameplay. There is a reason why this game is gaining momentum day by day. Let's face it. Some glitches that people complain HAD to be there period. This is how video gaming companies make money. If they release a PERFECT game, how on fucking earth will they continue to make money and release next titles ? This is not SCARFACE or GODFATHER where the movie stays permanently the best of all times. KONAMI are doing this because they have to, period.

Even the greatest PES of all times (pes5) had its own faults and I remember people whining about this and that but as time went by they started to like the game more and more).

Now let's look back:

PES5/WE9LE (Korean PES 5 that was polished for 6+months) were a mixture between simulation and arcade. It was fun to play because it offered a realistic VISUAL of how a football game should be played. BUT, it also offered arcade style of play with ping pong fast, accurate passes, limited 8 directional movement, which in REALITY is not a REAL FOOTBALL.

What KONAMI and EA as well are trying to achieve is full, 360 deg SIMULATION gameplay. This is where KONAMI beat EA in 2014 with PES 14.

FIFA 14 and even FIFA hardcore fans will admit that so far nothing has changed. BUT PES14 took a huge lead over FIFA 14 in following ways:\

- FIFA 14 still has its simulation BUT also was injected with a heavy dose of arcade. What I'm talking about you might ask yourself ? That is SPEED and PING PONG PASSES. FIFA 14 is very fast and "get to the point type of game" While it offers SIMULATION it doesn't prove the player with CREATIVITY which REAL FOOTBALL should offer you.

PES 14 for the first time EVER, offers true manual passing with ADVANCED PASSING, it offers TRUE 360 degree movement which gives you ONE OPTION OF PLAY: PURE SIMULATION. You are SIMULATING what you see on TV and what you see real footballers do on the pitch.

It is slow gameplay that requires basic but high IQ of football. You have to pass pass pass and pass more. Create chances. It's a CHESS GAME btw you and your opponent. You won't score long range screamers all the time, none of that fancy bullshit. This is where MATURITY hits you. Mature players WANT TO PLAY A GAME LIKE THIS, while younger players like yourself care more about transfers, boots, graphics, how many stadiums the game has ETC...ETC..

This game is not for you my friend. Stick with PS4 and FIFA.

PES 14 is far from perfect but its ON THE RIGHT TRACK to being ELITE like it was before.

I've played all footie games you can imagine. SWOS 96/97 was fun and I still play it on my PC (Online) with updated squads thanks to sensiblesoccer.de guys.

I still have WE9LE with JIMBOS EDITION PES5 Club Patch. FANTASTIC GAME.

But PES 14 hands down, without a doubt, is the best PES Konami ever released REALISTICLY wise.


Try to play all MANUAL and tell me if you like it. If you don't then you don't belong on these forums my friend.

I rest my case and hopefully you learned something from professor sabh.
 

sabh

Registered User
everyone entitled to their opinion. Please, will people stop getting insulted because someone comments on a game.


It's a negative, unprofessional, SLAP ME IN THE FACE review. There are people out there who will read this and not buy the game.

What the fuck happened to PESGaming no offense.
 

horror13

Registered User
Very Well Explain!!

I was an old member on PESInsight which is now this, PESGaming. I haven't bothered to register again mainly because a lot of my friends, PES Vets, patchers, editors left etc, mostly stay at Evo-Web but because of this IDIOTIC, STUPID, ARROGANT post I couldn't hold my tongue and signed up and now decided to reply back to this NOOB, yes NOOB, amateur PES Gamer who apparently thinks he is some ELITE player.

Let me enlighten you kid now.

PES or Winning Eleven was never known for flashy graphics, proper licenses or updated transfers. It gained popularity solely because of its GAMEPLAY.

Your list of complaints about PES 14 is so laughable it's not even funny. You complain because Bale is not in Madrid, or certain players don't look the way they're supposed to in real life, and just because of those few details YOU, the CHOSEN ONE, the freaking POPE thinks the game is totally broken ? Really, ??

PES was always aimed for somewhat mature players. Players who don't care about graphics, stadiums, boots, etc RATHER gameplay.


What made SWOS esp SWOS 96/97 on AMIGA so successful ? To this very day, this RETRO game has more players, tournaments worldwide than PES/FIFA combined ...no you didn't know that did you....what did SWOS offer ? Great graphics right..realistic looking faces, animations ETC. No retard, it offered SIMPLE quick addictive gameplay.

Now, football games have changed over the decade. 2D was/is outdated and 3D is in full control.. While PES/WE was heavily the king of football gaming in PS2 era, when it first debuted on what was next gen now current gen (PS3, XBOX360) it was shit, yes. Even I admit. And I am bigger guru than you'll EVER be when it comes to PES. PES on PS3/360 was arcade shit show with broken gameplay. Over the course KONAMI slowly improved their craft and in PES 14 they FINALLY nailed IT.

The things you mention 90% of true PES players won't give a fuck about. So quit saying PES 14 is broken because Bale is not in Madrid or you can't recognize some of your lovers in the game.

PES14 while not a perfect game, is a HUGE step to what made PES famous and that is the gameplay. There is a reason why this game is gaining momentum day by day. Let's face it. Some glitches that people complain HAD to be there period. This is how video gaming companies make money. If they release a PERFECT game, how on fucking earth will they continue to make money and release next titles ? This is not SCARFACE or GODFATHER where the movie stays permanently the best of all times. KONAMI are doing this because they have to, period.

Even the greatest PES of all times (pes5) had its own faults and I remember people whining about this and that but as time went by they started to like the game more and more).

Now let's look back:

PES5/WE9LE (Korean PES 5 that was polished for 6+months) were a mixture between simulation and arcade. It was fun to play because it offered a realistic VISUAL of how a football game should be played. BUT, it also offered arcade style of play with ping pong fast, accurate passes, limited 8 directional movement, which in REALITY is not a REAL FOOTBALL.

What KONAMI and EA as well are trying to achieve is full, 360 deg SIMULATION gameplay. This is where KONAMI beat EA in 2014 with PES 14.

FIFA 14 and even FIFA hardcore fans will admit that so far nothing has changed. BUT PES14 took a huge lead over FIFA 14 in following ways:\

- FIFA 14 still has its simulation BUT also was injected with a heavy dose of arcade. What I'm talking about you might ask yourself ? That is SPEED and PING PONG PASSES. FIFA 14 is very fast and "get to the point type of game" While it offers SIMULATION it doesn't prove the player with CREATIVITY which REAL FOOTBALL should offer you.

PES 14 for the first time EVER, offers true manual passing with ADVANCED PASSING, it offers TRUE 360 degree movement which gives you ONE OPTION OF PLAY: PURE SIMULATION. You are SIMULATING what you see on TV and what you see real footballers do on the pitch.

It is slow gameplay that requires basic but high IQ of football. You have to pass pass pass and pass more. Create chances. It's a CHESS GAME btw you and your opponent. You won't score long range screamers all the time, none of that fancy bullshit. This is where MATURITY hits you. Mature players WANT TO PLAY A GAME LIKE THIS, while younger players like yourself care more about transfers, boots, graphics, how many stadiums the game has ETC...ETC..

This game is not for you my friend. Stick with PS4 and FIFA.

PES 14 is far from perfect but its ON THE RIGHT TRACK to being ELITE like it was before.

I've played all footie games you can imagine. SWOS 96/97 was fun and I still play it on my PC (Online) with updated squads thanks to sensiblesoccer.de guys.

I still have WE9LE with JIMBOS EDITION PES5 Club Patch. FANTASTIC GAME.

But PES 14 hands down, without a doubt, is the best PES Konami ever released REALISTICLY wise.


Try to play all MANUAL and tell me if you like it. If you don't then you don't belong on these forums my friend.

I rest my case and hopefully you learned something from professor sabh.

..."Mature players WANT TO PLAY A GAME LIKE THIS"(100% agree). PES2014 awesome!!... i really enjoyed with the new gameplay...:gu:
 

OCKRASS

Registered User
WAT DA FAQ..:shocking:

You are taking a piss right now ....right? :(

Because if you are not .....there must be a gas leak in your home or something bro......

Because you are talking some crazy unrealistic, made up, delusional stuff here bra...

"Over the course KONAMI slowly improved their craft and in PES 14 they FINALLY nailed IT." .....:no:

Have you read the feedback from other fans here? Because it seems to me that majority of them have a completely different outlook on PES2014.

"PES was always aimed for somewhat mature players. Players who don't care about graphics, stadiums, boots, etc RATHER gameplay."

"The things you mention 90% of true PES players won't give a fuck about."

:no: Uh Uhhh..not true again!

Fans do care about graphics, stadiums boots etc.....however because of Konami's shitty release year after year, and not being able to create a fully complete game...some fans have lowered their expectations ...and are now begging Konami to get at least the basic gameplay correct......but they have not!

Think about it ...how can you mention the word "realistic" if the game is missing these important features?

"Some glitches that people complain HAD to be there period. This is how video gaming companies make money. If they release a PERFECT game, how on fucking earth will they continue to make money and release next titles ? This is not SCARFACE or GODFATHER where the movie stays permanently the best of all times. KONAMI are doing this because they have to, period."

:huh:
I cannot see how anyone of a sound and healthy mental state of mind can think or even rationalize this statement. Ridiculous!

"PES 14 for the first time EVER, offers true manual passing with ADVANCED PASSING, it offers TRUE 360 degree movement which gives you ONE OPTION OF PLAY: PURE SIMULATION. You are SIMULATING what you see on TV and what you see real footballers do on the pitch."

"It is slow gameplay that requires basic but high IQ of football. This is where MATURITY hits you. Mature players WANT TO PLAY A GAME LIKE THIS, while younger players like yourself care more about transfers, boots, graphics, how many stadiums the game has ETC...ETC.."

:shocking:

"But PES 14 hands down, without a doubt, is the best PES Konami ever released REALISTICLY wise." :shocking:



I rest my case and hopefully you learned something from professor sabh.


:blush:

"REALISTICLY" ??....as a mature person.......i hope you realize that ....that is not a word.....right?

OOOHHhhhhh K..... I give up.

peace
 

myzer2005

Registered User
mzer - it seems you're the only one who truly believes in 2014. Have you not played the early pes games, the ISS games? To know how high our expectations are, to be given this broken game. It's really a slap in the face to the fans. ITS BROKE.

I have played Fifa/PES/Actua Soccer all my life, I joined this forum in 2004... and you ask me if I have played the earlier games? lol

It's not broke, you are just bad at it. Like I said on another thread, PES Fans are just crying babies when it comes to changes, it happens every year. Last year was no different either, then all of a sudden 2013 is the most perfect PES game? Give me a break.

KONAMI probably paid him to spread positive rumors about the game online.

Nope, I have just played more than one game and have got used to the new control system. I enjoy the game and think it is one of the best PES games to date. Sorry for having an opinion though that doesn't match your own or these other crying babies.
 

$anzi£

Registered User
I have played Fifa/PES/Actua Soccer all my life, I joined this forum in 2004... and you ask me if I have played the earlier games? lol

It's not broke, you are just bad at it. Like I said on another thread, PES Fans are just crying babies when it comes to changes, it happens every year. Last year was no different either, then all of a sudden 2013 is the most perfect PES game? Give me a break.



Nope, I have just played more than one game and have got used to the new control system. I enjoy the game and think it is one of the best PES games to date. Sorry for having an opinion though that doesn't match your own or these other crying babies.

I think everyone needs to just chill like I finally have and realised, people who play it on PC have got themselves a much better game than us unfortunate souls, it's not fair, but it's fact, I've seen the PC version in full flow myself now, and at times it's almost like they are playing a different game, my anger is firmly on Konami for screwing us ps3 guys and not at the ones who are to enjoy the game. Myzer seem like a good guy and you need to get off his back seriously, just because he paid half the money and got a better game, don't take it out on him. I'm on PS3 and still angry as hell as well about the game, but just stop with the bickering amongst one another now and try to do something constructive, make a poll or something , get facts you can build up and forward them to Konami instead of just bitching like I did for ageous, because we will get nowhere... I went through all my posts embarrassed because I sounded like a little girl crying, and thats what everyone else runs the risk of doing, put your anger into something constructive.. It's like moaning you havn't got a job when you won't put your CV about to get one, it doesn't help no-one and you just get yourself more and more worked up.
 
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