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Player suddenly being worse than before

VilleA

Registered User
Has the following happened to anyone else? Sorry for the long post in advance...

First the specs:

Playing on PS3, Top Player level, position AMF, skill card Classic number 10 at the start fo the game.

I started my career at Heracles, did OK in the first season and won the league assist leader trophy as well as got selected in the league best eleven.

I transferred to NAC at the start of the second season and as their formation was better suited for my player, I started to put in some quite good performances - ratings usually were between 6,5 and 7,5 and I got assists in practically every match as well as scoring a couple of goals also.

After about 25 league games into the season (at which point my average rating was about 6,9 and had 25 assists in the league + some odd goals, and my team were leadiing the dutch league) my player suddenly became clearly worse than what he had been up until that point.

My team also was visibly worse than what it was before - strikers almost completely stopped making runs behind the opposition defence, players lost the ball in easy situations and they became much slower in doing everything they did. Much worse was the fact that my player suddenly responded to everything much, much slower.

He had lost a couple of yards of pace, acceleration had deteriorated, one-touch passing became almost impossible, turned with and without the ball like a 50-year old, reacted much slower after playing a pass, getting up after being tackled took ages, dribble speed was much more slower, got knocked and robbed off possession much more easily - was basically much worse and much SLOWER than what he used to be in everything that he was supposed to do.

Still, my team was able to win the dutch league and my player ended the season with a respectable 10 goals + 30 assists in 37 games, with an average rating of 6,7 (won also the best player, assist leader and best eleven awards).

The same continued for my player in the Euro championships. Still my country managed to win the tournament (and my player got selected as the best player of the tournament as well as being the assist leader).

I transferred to Getafe for the third season and all seemed to be well again. My team demolished Real Madrid 5-0 in the first league match (my player got 1+2) and after 8 league games we were on top of the league and my player had already collected 4 goals and 8 assists in those 8 matches. After that, the same thing happened again. Eventually my team still ended up winning the league and my player again collected all possible trophies, but throughout the rest of the season after those first 8 matches my player (and the team) was much worse than what he was before. This is backed up by my players stats before and after:

First 8 games: 4 goals, 8 assists, average rating 7,1
Last 30 games: 2 goals, 12 assists, average rating ended up at 6,6

It feels as though my team are getting better results than what the computer expects and my player is playing better than what he should be with his attributes, and because of this some kind of scripting kicks on.

I've also noted that my player's development has all but stopped, and his fan base has diminished with every passing month since the start of the game (his fan base is actually smaller now than what is was when he was a 17-year old rookie, all this after being selected as the best player in the Euro cup, the dutch league, and the spanish league!)

It is obvious that the computer is scripting it, but what I'd like to know is if there is some kind of way to stop this? For example deliberately playing very poorly for a couple of games, getting dropped from the starting XI, skipping a match or two?
 

MathisBorgen

Registered User
I've noticed this as well... It changes every season with players coming and going, I'm 21 in the game and playing CF for Real Madrid at top level, and last year we won everything and I was top scorer in every tournament. Last season we had Messi and other great players, this season the club sold a few of the good playes, including Messi, and this season I struggle more to get to chances... Once I get them I usually score, but with worse players around me I have to be much more accurate than last season and take every chance I get, and we lost a lot of attacking flair with Messi. :-/

As for the fan base, I think it's because you change clubs a lot. This is the first club I've played for longer than a year, and my fan base has increased significally. ;-) If I get an offer from a "better" club in the summer I will go, but I think my fan base will drop again then...

I think the longer you stay in a club, the more fans you get, and the more you win, the more your poularity will rise. Plus if you stay in a club longer, your teamwork skill gets higher and I think that has a lot to say on your developement... Higher teamwork skill = more xp. ;-)
 

VilleA

Registered User
I've noticed this as well... It changes every season with players coming and going, I'm 21 in the game and playing CF for Real Madrid at top level, and last year we won everything and I was top scorer in every tournament. Last season we had Messi and other great players, this season the club sold a few of the good playes, including Messi, and this season I struggle more to get to chances... Once I get them I usually score, but with worse players around me I have to be much more accurate than last season and take every chance I get, and we lost a lot of attacking flair with Messi. :-/

As for the fan base, I think it's because you change clubs a lot. This is the first club I've played for longer than a year, and my fan base has increased significally. ;-) If I get an offer from a "better" club in the summer I will go, but I think my fan base will drop again then...

I think the longer you stay in a club, the more fans you get, and the more you win, the more your poularity will rise. Plus if you stay in a club longer, your teamwork skill gets higher and I think that has a lot to say on your developement... Higher teamwork skill = more xp. ;-)

That could be true as well, but this problem has occurred during the course of the season in my game, not between seasons. There have been no player changes, but still it has happened.

I also forgot to mention that the exact same thing happened for me in the 2010 edition as well. Only in that version it didn't start until my fifth season.
 

0zz

Registered User
"Tenacity" is the word. It determines how well you perform during late stages of the game,and how resistant you'll be to fatigue factor. It applies to all players in the game. If you create a player with high tenacity rating it is less likely that coach will take you off late in the game.
 

VilleA

Registered User
"Tenacity" is the word. It determines how well you perform during late stages of the game,and how resistant you'll be to fatigue factor. It applies to all players in the game. If you create a player with high tenacity rating it is less likely that coach will take you off late in the game.

The coach practically never takes my player off during games. And my player very rarely
gets really tired during mathces.

The problem is not the late stages of matches, it's there from the first whistle to the last.
 

dan80

Registered User
I started a new BAL but the transfers on low but they still quite bad, like manutd still sold half the team or mainly the subs and players will leave a club join a new one then leave again really bad part of this game.
 

VilleA

Registered User
I decided to stop playing this game, or at least BAL. If only someone would know how to fix this problem, but it seems that there is no way to do it.

I loved the 2009 version of BAL (played on PS2 back then), but since this sudden deterioration of my player has happened in both the 2010 and 2011 versions, I'm not going to buy the 2012 version.
 

Muzzley

Registered User
I started a new BAL but the transfers on low but they still quite bad, like manutd still sold half the team or mainly the subs and players will leave a club join a new one then leave again really bad part of this game.

Season 4 -

Shock players leaving there clubs:

Messi - Marseille
Tevez - AS Roma
Rooney - Inter
Ineista - Inter
Buffon - Bayern
Gerrard - D2 League (Sutherland UTD sharks) < i made an australian league

And Many MAny More trully Perthetic transfers...

I have My Transfer's on low.. seems to be less transfers but it transfers big names only. Quite entertaining sometimes..
 

Sabatasso

Banned
Tenacity is one of the most important stats for BAL, if you get it in the mid 80's or 90's, you will hardly ever experience this.
 
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