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Playstation 3

jamez

Calcio Agriculturus
Travis Bickle said:
This is an "official PS3 thread", not some viral marketeering 360 vs PS3, just fuck off and let people look at official specs and information on PS3.


Also "footballcool91" those are old specs, Sony have got rid of the dual HDMI outputs. Go on the official site...

Link


And of course it can be played on a non-hd tv.

Chill out. Whats the point of a forum if you can't discuss things. No-one has any hard facts on PS3 so this whole thread is rumour. XBOX 360 has a huge affect on the success of the PS3 so if people wan't to talk about in comparsion, let them.
 

Travis Bickle

not to be taken seriously
"Venolan" you do realise the 360 is a high definition games machine that needs a high definition TV to see the true look of the games, and also they are making a HDDVD add-on so you can watch hi-def movies.

"Jamez" there I posted an official site Link they are the facts, they've given a World wide release date of November 17th and there is plenty of info about games including a few official sites

Warhawk site

Assassin's Creed site

Resistance site


Heavenly Sword site



From the other thread....

me said:

Raiden in MGS4


New Naughty Dog project


Assassins Creed


Resistance


Lair


Heavenly sword

Most of the games you have to see in motion to really appreciate, be on the look out for the high definition MGS4 video (about 1gb) "it'll be worth the wait."

A good list of videos here, LINK
Special mention to final fantasy 13, naughty dog project and Heavenly Sword for amazing animation.


For £425 you get

PS3
High Definiton Blu ray movie player
Wifi
Multi card reader
HDMI output for true 1080p
Wireless and motion sensitive controller
free online play, with friends list, match making.
Web Browser
60GB hard drive with Linux os
Backwards compatible with PS1 and PS2 games

And if you want to talk about rumours, "Seabass" has been heard to have mentioned a next-gen Pro Evo only for PS3.
 

Venolan

Registered User
whatever, lets see what you get for that much if it was xbox items:
£425
XBox 360 Console - £279.99
Includes in box:
Includes 20GB Hard Drive
Includes Wireless Controller
Includes Headset - Voice Communicator
Includes Component HD AV Cable (with SCART adaptor)

XBox 360 console spec:
Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU 3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
2 hardware threads per core; 6 hardware threads total
1 VMX-128 vector unit per core; 3 total
128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
1 MB L2 cache


CPU Game Math Performance 9 billion dot product operations per second

Custom ATI Graphics Processor 500 MHz
10 MB embedded DRAM
48-way parallel floating-point dynamically-scheduled shader pipelines
Unified shader architecture

Polygon Performance 500 million triangles per second

Pixel Fill Rate 16 gigasamples per second fillrate using 4X MSAA

Shader Performance 48 billion shader operations per second

Memory 512 MB GDDR3 RAM
700 MHz DDR
Unified memory architecture

Memory Bandwidth 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
21.6 GB/s front-side bus

Overall System Floating-Point Performance 1 TFLOP

Storage Detachable and upgradeable 20 GB hard drive
12X dual-layer DVD-ROM
Memory unit support starting at 64 MB

I/O Support for up to 4 wireless game controllers
3 USB 2.0 ports
2 memory unit slots

Optimized for Online Instant, out-of-the-box access to Xbox Live features, including Xbox Live Marketplace for downloadable content, Gamer Profile for digital identity and voice chat to talk to friends while playing games, watching movies or listening to music
Built in Ethernet Port
Wi-Fi Ready: 802.11 A, B and G
Video Camera Ready


Digital Media Support Support for DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD
Stream media from portable music devices, digital cameras, Windows XP PCs
Rip music to Xbox 360 hard drive
Custom playlists in every game
Windows Media Center Extender built in
Interactive, full screen 3D visualizers

HD Game Support All games supported at 16:9, 720p and 1080i, anti-aliasing
Standard definition and high definition video output supported

Audio Multichannel surround sound output
Supports 48 KHz 16-bit audio
320 independent decompression channels
32-bit audio processing
Over 256 audio channels

System Orientation Stands vertically or horizontally

Customizable Face Plates Interchangeable to personalize the console

and
2 XBox 360 games for £79.98 (so thats £359.97 so far)
1 Official XBox 360 Universal Media Remote for £17.99 (£377.95)
1 XBox Live 12 Month Gold Membership Card for £34.99 (£412.95)

NOTE: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/xbox360/nextgengraphics.htm it still works on normal tvs and i have an 17" HD tele @ the moment so i aint bothered!

All of that and you still have £12.05 left and you can play PES 6, GTA VI and many more, if you buy the XBOX 360 core it is even cheaper and wihtout the extras above (started with green no.) apart from one game it is still way cheaper.
XBOX 360 is more reliable and unlike the PS3 won't overheat and has wireless controllers (like the PS3) but with your £425 you dont have games involved so that will cost even more. Now beat that, wait you can't, PES 6 should be played on the XBOX 360 not the con! and thats that!
 

jamez

Calcio Agriculturus
i'll be opting for the 360 premium package. An extra £150 pounds for a PS3 that will offer maybe only a small increase in graphical power is not worth it. And Xbox live is a better service at present. And the PS3 will be like gold dust before christmas, so good luck to everyone who thinks they'll be getting one on November 19th.
 

Venolan

Registered User
PS3 is such a waste of money for a small increase of graphics but the graphics look better on xbox 360 than the ps3 on a normal tv only with the HD and when you hav the money is when the PS3 is superior but cmon...
 

footballcool91

Registered User
Venolan said:
PS3 is such a waste of money for a small increase of graphics but the graphics look better on xbox 360 than the ps3 on a normal tv only with the HD and when you hav the money is when the PS3 is superior but cmon...

PS3 and Xboxs graphics are the same on normal TVs and the PS3 graphics are better on a HD TV:D
 

PES ADDICT 117

Registered User
footballcool91 said:
PS3 and Xboxs graphics are the same on normal TVs and the PS3 graphics are better on a HD TV:D

I don't give a toss about graphics really, iw ould rather have better gameplay, which both the 360 and PS3 offer. I have a 360 and i am happy with it. I won't get a PS3 because i feel it isa) too expensive for me ;) and b)i like the games coming out on 360.

About next-gen PES only being on PS3... VERY unlikely, Seabass has said pes 6 will only come out on 360 and that he will work with both next-gen consoles in the future.
 

Venolan

Registered User
footballcool91 said:
PS3 and Xboxs graphics are the same on normal TVs and the PS3 graphics are better on a HD TV:D

well it didnt say that where i read, maybe you have your heart set on the PS3 well start saving and you may find true happiness with the PS3 and i wish you the best of luck :cool: why dont they have xbox smilies that would be cool!!!
 

footballcool91

Registered User
I dont mind the XBOX 360 but im set on the PS3. Better games eg Metal Gear Solid, Motorstorm, Rain to name a few. For me the PS3 is expensive, but i dont want to pay £60 for a game.
 

Venolan

Registered User
footballcool91 said:
I dont mind the XBOX 360 but im set on the PS3. Better games eg Metal Gear Solid, Motorstorm, Rain to name a few. For me the PS3 is expensive, but i dont want to pay £60 for a game.

£60 for a game? they cost £39.99 on www.play.com and are £10 more in some shops in the streets ... £60:no:
 

Original?

istrator
Venolan said:
Now beat that, wait you can't, PES 6 should be played on the XBOX 360 not the con! and thats that!

Beat that? I was an Xbox 360 owner for seven months... I sold it because it was not as enjoyable to play as my old PS2. The 360 didn't beat Sony's last generation machine, surely I won't consider it to be better than their next generation machine. PES6 will be a port of the PS2 version with enhanced graphics, it will not be a truly next generation game... and if you've seen the screenshots you will be unable to argue with that statement. PES6 on the 360 may have enhanced graphics, but I still contest that the PS2 version will be superior purely due to the controller being vastly superior to the 360 pad when it comes to PES.
 

footballcool91

Registered User
Original? said:
Beat that? I was an Xbox 360 owner for seven months... I sold it because it was not as enjoyable to play as my old PS2. The 360 didn't beat Sony's last generation machine, surely I won't consider it to be better than their next generation machine. PES6 will be a port of the PS2 version with enhanced graphics, it will not be a truly next generation game... and if you've seen the screenshots you will be unable to argue with that statement. PES6 on the 360 may have enhanced graphics, but I still contest that the PS2 version will be superior purely due to the controller being vastly superior to the 360 pad when it comes to PES.

Pes on the Playstation kicks xboxs ass. the controlor is better even the supposed next gen on the 360 is meant 2 be better but its not
Playstation for me
 

jamez

Calcio Agriculturus
Original? said:
PES6 will be a port of the PS2 version with enhanced graphics, it will not be a truly next generation game... and if you've seen the screenshots you will be unable to argue with that statement. PES6 on the 360 may have enhanced graphics, but I still contest that the PS2 version will be superior purely due to the controller being vastly superior to the 360 pad when it comes to PES.

I beg to differ. We've not actually seen any real 360 screens yet, just one image of Adriano's face. All the other screens are clearly PS2.

The fact that WE10 was released well before normal hopefully means that Konami have been working on the 360 (and maybe PS3) version for a while now. Seabass has said he's been waiting to take the series forward on next-gen consoles and explore new ideas. Why would he waste the chance?
 

hola name

Registered User
If you were Sony how dumb can you get? You market this as a Blu ray player entertainment system. If I love entertainment, why would I spend £450 on a Blu ray player? The PS2's DVD player is crap, so the PS3's Blu ray player will be crap. I would simply wait for a specialist Blu ray player and then buy it probably for £150 cheaper.

Also think about this, if you are a game designer like EA. EA will churn out 10 franchise titles a year plus 2 or 3 independent games. I mean:

Franchises
Madden
Fifa
Nhl
Nba
Burnout
Need For Speed
etc


Individual
From Russia with Love


So if I am making my cross brand franchise game on PS3, XBox 360, Wii, PS2, XBox and Gamecube, you would look at it like this. The old-gen platforms care for themselves as EA have proved they can do that year in year out. But the difference between next-gen consoles is giant. They will start with the PS3 and have to make it then accessible to the Xbox 360. That means you will get some botched together, genetically mutated, retarted game crammed onto both consoles without excelling in either. That means that it just won't be a full PS3 experiance with fulll utilisation of the hardware, due to the cross platform porting.

That leaves the Wii (what I will get). The designers will craft games for that with love and care from scratch, and surely that can only be a goood thing. But my reservation about Wii is this. Jumping for catches, stiff arming and throwing balls in Madden looks quality, no doubt. If you have not seen the footage I suggest you do. Therfore the multiplayer will be awesome. But will it lose its shine when i am playing alone on a rainy Sunday afternoon with no one around? Do I keep on wanting to get up and down during a long har franchise, to do training camp? I don't know and that is my reservation with the Wii.
 

Mick03

Registered User
hola name said:
If you were Sony how dumb can you get? You market this as a Blu ray player entertainment system. If I love entertainment, why would I spend £450 on a Blu ray player? The PS2's DVD player is crap, so the PS3's Blu ray player will be crap. I would simply wait for a specialist Blu ray player and then buy it probably for £150 cheaper.
if sony say its anything other then a games constold they dont have to pay as much tax on it
 
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