GoonerJosh80
Registered User
For years PES editing mode has always been one of the best for a sports game but over the years there have been some obvious blips such as PES 4 which had no striped kits in the template but silly kits with Hearts on them.
The reason why people love the edit mode is becuase
1. It lets you keep player stats up to date of in some cases correct them
2. it lets you keep kits and playing accessories up to date
3. Player creations can be pretty accurate
the list goes on but one of the things that was noticed in last years version and many other releases is that you have not been able to get kits spot on such as the Arsenal strip in 2009 which is 90% accurate.
KITS
Here are a list of the main kit manufactuers in Europe, Asia and the Americas
Adidas (Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Japan, Nigeria, France, Germany, Mexico, Russia & River Plate)
Canterbury (Portsmouth)
Champion (Wigan & Wales)
Diadora (Napoli, Scotland)
Errea (Atalanta)
Kappa (Roma, Torino, Metz & Borrussia Dortmund)
Le Coq Sportif (Everton & Wolves)
Lotto (Borussia Monchengladbach, Colombia)
Nike (Arsenal, Aston Villa, Fulham, Celtic & Boca Juniors)
Puma (Cameroon, Italy & Feyenoord)
Reebook (Bolton)
Umbro (Lyon, West Ham, Sunderland & Man City)
Now this is an exhaustive list and I have not even mentioned all of the teams who's kits are provided by these manufactuers. I dont see why Konami can't approach these manufactuers and ask for their templates for a fixed period that way the kits will be 100% authentic both player and GKs kits. There must be the capacity to add these templates onto Blu Ray or 360/PC DVD. The big four Nike, Adidas, Umbro & Puma will have the most templates, mid companies like Kappa, Le coq Sportif & Lotto will have a few and the likes of Champion, Canterbury & Errea are gonna have maybe one or two. it would be nice if they looked as good as the licencsed kits as well.
The short length option form the previous PES games should be brought back as classic players did not have shorts as long as they do now example below. Also the shirt tightness option as in PES 3 as some of these shirts are tighter fitting than others.
Maradona in 86
Torres now.
Kit Options
One of the best options introduced was the untucked or tucked shirts and the socks low sock high as there are many players that wear their kit in specific ways and in some ways it emphisies the players personality on the pitch.
Obviously in the Totti, Hleb and Henry photos you notice the difference in the way socks are worn. I have noticed there are more players due to shirts being tighter are wearing their sleeves in what is best described as a 3/4 roll.
Also the slight variations in the way tape is worn as on PES you have the standard one ring round the ankle but there are variations as shown below
Ronaldo normally wears his with some kind of ankle sock/guard
Gerrard wears his the traditional way which is featured in PES.
Torres also wears it similar to Ronaldo
Lastly le sulk wears his higher up his socks.
Accessories
Genrally PES gives a good variation of accessories for players the only things I'd want included are the ability like in 2K9 to wear club writstbands like Joe Cole does for Chelsea.
Equitment
PES has alsways had a good selection of boots but one of the major problems has been that you have 3 or 4 pairs of Predators taking up fours slots when common sense says you have all the Predator colours on one slot freeing up another 3 slots. In terms of boots the following boot manufactuers models
Adidas (Predator, World Cup, F50 & AdiPURE)
Nike (Mercurial Vapor, T90 Laser, Tiempo & Air Legend)
Puma (V.1.08-5.08, Konstruct & King)
Umbro (SX Flare & SX Valor)
Mizuno (Morelia Pro Japan)
Lotto (Zhero Gravity)
Diadorra (Brasil Italy & Pro Line Axler)
Asics (Testimonial, Lethel Testimonial)
Reebok (Instante Pro)
Again these are a few of the boots available but Konamai could have all the styles of the big boys Adidas, Nike & Puma could be given the 11 slots with the different colour schemes all on the same slot. These are the most worn then for some of the other brands you could either assign them one slot for there most popular boot or make their boots & logos creatable in the edit mode.
Again I think for classic players if you had this would give that extra authenticity.
Adidas (World Cup)
Puma (King)
Nike(Earl to Mid 90s Tiempo)
Goakeeper Gloves
There is absolutely no reason why GK gloves are not licensed in the game or that they are not editbale there is nothing more annoying having a GK like Buffon wearing black gloves when he has been wearing all white for the past season.
Adidas
Nike
Puma
Selsport
Umbro
Reusch
Sells
These are the main maunfactuers but Konami could either get licences for the big boys as most keepers wear Nike, Adidas, Puma than Umbro/Sells/Selsport. If Konami had a goalkeeper glove editing the following(strap colour, palm design, top design, top colour and logo) These could be inlcuded to then most of theses manufactuers gloves could be editied into the game.
Less of the gardening/mickey mouse gloves
and more
Konami has sinced confirmed this has been sorted and WENB claimed that gloves are licensed.
Player Faces
My only issue I have is not being able to create spot on likenesses is there noe way you can include past players whether as licensed faces or just within the mutlitude of noses, mouths, eyes & eyebrows. Surely that would not be a breach as they are in the game but then concievably any person in the world could be in there if someone has the patience to make them. It seems a real shame to myself and that preset players look awesome but made up one or classic have a wierd look about them.
Player Hair
Can you please do a bit my research into afro type hair because for certain players like Essien the hair is awful you need more black hairstyles including a smaller afro for players like Glen Johnson pre braids.
It would be nice if you had and accurate Valderama hairstyle as well as 20-30 historic hairstyles such(I know you have a few) as Maradona's barnet from 1986, Paul Brietner's German afro, Waddles mullet.
And a decent Baggio hairstyle would be nice
I had to include that one those are the best perms ever!!
There is no reason why the following could not be editiable
Balls as it would be nice to be able to use NIKE balls when playing the English league but the last time I remeber the NIKE ball was only available for the La Liga whn it was Licensed. The following balls are used for the following Leagues
Official England League Ball
Official La Liga Ball
Official Serie A Ball
Official Europa League Football
Official Champions League Ball
As you can see these are mainly Nike and Adidas balls but you can also add Mitre who do the Championship & England home internationals.
Why not have more licensed balls i.e just the models and not the fac that they are attributed to a icensed league and also the ability to be able to edits balls to create ones that are not in the game.
You could have your base ball I'd say 4 panel styles like below
Long Panel
Classic Panel
Modern Panel
You then should have the ability to edit the base ball buy colouring panels like below
Or Adding patterns and colours like the two below
These could then be available during the match selection and league selection mode.
As I said in the above post the League Logos should be editable and this should purely be done the same way badges are done. If possible if it could be incorporated into the game so that when playing the EPL all the shirts will display the EPL logo on their shirts like so
This should be the same for La Liga, BundisLiga, Seria A and any other league we may wish tyo create.
I would also like to see editable trophies is possibe as it would just mean that we are able to edit the
International Cup trophy
The various league trophies
European Champions Trophy
Americas Trophy
Asia Trophy
Africa Trophy
For instance to create the EPL trophy it would be a case of chosing a base and then handles
Base wise you could have
Trophy(EPL, La Liga, European Championship, Uefa Cup, Champions League, Copa America, )
Vase (The only one I can think of is the F.A vase)
Plate(Budisliga, Ligue 1 )
Sheild(Cahrity Sheild)
Statuette(World Cup, African Nations Cup)
You could then have the choice of adding arms to the trophy which could be moved into place and then the colour of the trophy and maybe and option to add the winning teams colours.
To sum up my entire post why not make the edit mode as open as possible to give each individual player the possibility to edit the various elements of the game to their liking.
I also think that a possible community sharing mode like the one in NBA2K9 that allows other users to log into a database to download created content would be a great way for PES fans to have all their creation stored on one central database.
I would be interested to know if the PS3 edit mode could ever be on Par with PC Editing is there anyway to open it up so we can be as accurate as our PC counterparts?
The reason why people love the edit mode is becuase
1. It lets you keep player stats up to date of in some cases correct them
2. it lets you keep kits and playing accessories up to date
3. Player creations can be pretty accurate
the list goes on but one of the things that was noticed in last years version and many other releases is that you have not been able to get kits spot on such as the Arsenal strip in 2009 which is 90% accurate.
KITS
Here are a list of the main kit manufactuers in Europe, Asia and the Americas
Adidas (Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Japan, Nigeria, France, Germany, Mexico, Russia & River Plate)
Canterbury (Portsmouth)
Champion (Wigan & Wales)
Diadora (Napoli, Scotland)
Errea (Atalanta)
Kappa (Roma, Torino, Metz & Borrussia Dortmund)
Le Coq Sportif (Everton & Wolves)
Lotto (Borussia Monchengladbach, Colombia)
Nike (Arsenal, Aston Villa, Fulham, Celtic & Boca Juniors)
Puma (Cameroon, Italy & Feyenoord)
Reebook (Bolton)
Umbro (Lyon, West Ham, Sunderland & Man City)
Now this is an exhaustive list and I have not even mentioned all of the teams who's kits are provided by these manufactuers. I dont see why Konami can't approach these manufactuers and ask for their templates for a fixed period that way the kits will be 100% authentic both player and GKs kits. There must be the capacity to add these templates onto Blu Ray or 360/PC DVD. The big four Nike, Adidas, Umbro & Puma will have the most templates, mid companies like Kappa, Le coq Sportif & Lotto will have a few and the likes of Champion, Canterbury & Errea are gonna have maybe one or two. it would be nice if they looked as good as the licencsed kits as well.
The short length option form the previous PES games should be brought back as classic players did not have shorts as long as they do now example below. Also the shirt tightness option as in PES 3 as some of these shirts are tighter fitting than others.
Maradona in 86
Torres now.
Kit Options
One of the best options introduced was the untucked or tucked shirts and the socks low sock high as there are many players that wear their kit in specific ways and in some ways it emphisies the players personality on the pitch.
Obviously in the Totti, Hleb and Henry photos you notice the difference in the way socks are worn. I have noticed there are more players due to shirts being tighter are wearing their sleeves in what is best described as a 3/4 roll.
Also the slight variations in the way tape is worn as on PES you have the standard one ring round the ankle but there are variations as shown below
Ronaldo normally wears his with some kind of ankle sock/guard
Gerrard wears his the traditional way which is featured in PES.
Torres also wears it similar to Ronaldo
Lastly le sulk wears his higher up his socks.
Accessories
Genrally PES gives a good variation of accessories for players the only things I'd want included are the ability like in 2K9 to wear club writstbands like Joe Cole does for Chelsea.
Equitment
PES has alsways had a good selection of boots but one of the major problems has been that you have 3 or 4 pairs of Predators taking up fours slots when common sense says you have all the Predator colours on one slot freeing up another 3 slots. In terms of boots the following boot manufactuers models
Adidas (Predator, World Cup, F50 & AdiPURE)
Nike (Mercurial Vapor, T90 Laser, Tiempo & Air Legend)
Puma (V.1.08-5.08, Konstruct & King)
Umbro (SX Flare & SX Valor)
Mizuno (Morelia Pro Japan)
Lotto (Zhero Gravity)
Diadorra (Brasil Italy & Pro Line Axler)
Asics (Testimonial, Lethel Testimonial)
Reebok (Instante Pro)
Again these are a few of the boots available but Konamai could have all the styles of the big boys Adidas, Nike & Puma could be given the 11 slots with the different colour schemes all on the same slot. These are the most worn then for some of the other brands you could either assign them one slot for there most popular boot or make their boots & logos creatable in the edit mode.
Again I think for classic players if you had this would give that extra authenticity.
Adidas (World Cup)
Puma (King)
Nike(Earl to Mid 90s Tiempo)
Goakeeper Gloves
There is absolutely no reason why GK gloves are not licensed in the game or that they are not editbale there is nothing more annoying having a GK like Buffon wearing black gloves when he has been wearing all white for the past season.
Adidas
Nike
Puma
Selsport
Umbro
Reusch
Sells
These are the main maunfactuers but Konami could either get licences for the big boys as most keepers wear Nike, Adidas, Puma than Umbro/Sells/Selsport. If Konami had a goalkeeper glove editing the following(strap colour, palm design, top design, top colour and logo) These could be inlcuded to then most of theses manufactuers gloves could be editied into the game.
Less of the gardening/mickey mouse gloves
and more
Konami has sinced confirmed this has been sorted and WENB claimed that gloves are licensed.
Player Faces
My only issue I have is not being able to create spot on likenesses is there noe way you can include past players whether as licensed faces or just within the mutlitude of noses, mouths, eyes & eyebrows. Surely that would not be a breach as they are in the game but then concievably any person in the world could be in there if someone has the patience to make them. It seems a real shame to myself and that preset players look awesome but made up one or classic have a wierd look about them.
Player Hair
Can you please do a bit my research into afro type hair because for certain players like Essien the hair is awful you need more black hairstyles including a smaller afro for players like Glen Johnson pre braids.
It would be nice if you had and accurate Valderama hairstyle as well as 20-30 historic hairstyles such(I know you have a few) as Maradona's barnet from 1986, Paul Brietner's German afro, Waddles mullet.
And a decent Baggio hairstyle would be nice
I had to include that one those are the best perms ever!!
There is no reason why the following could not be editiable
Balls as it would be nice to be able to use NIKE balls when playing the English league but the last time I remeber the NIKE ball was only available for the La Liga whn it was Licensed. The following balls are used for the following Leagues
Official England League Ball
Official La Liga Ball
Official Serie A Ball
Official Europa League Football
Official Champions League Ball
As you can see these are mainly Nike and Adidas balls but you can also add Mitre who do the Championship & England home internationals.
Why not have more licensed balls i.e just the models and not the fac that they are attributed to a icensed league and also the ability to be able to edits balls to create ones that are not in the game.
You could have your base ball I'd say 4 panel styles like below
Long Panel
Classic Panel
Modern Panel
You then should have the ability to edit the base ball buy colouring panels like below
Or Adding patterns and colours like the two below
These could then be available during the match selection and league selection mode.
As I said in the above post the League Logos should be editable and this should purely be done the same way badges are done. If possible if it could be incorporated into the game so that when playing the EPL all the shirts will display the EPL logo on their shirts like so
This should be the same for La Liga, BundisLiga, Seria A and any other league we may wish tyo create.
I would also like to see editable trophies is possibe as it would just mean that we are able to edit the
International Cup trophy
The various league trophies
European Champions Trophy
Americas Trophy
Asia Trophy
Africa Trophy
For instance to create the EPL trophy it would be a case of chosing a base and then handles
Base wise you could have
Trophy(EPL, La Liga, European Championship, Uefa Cup, Champions League, Copa America, )
Vase (The only one I can think of is the F.A vase)
Plate(Budisliga, Ligue 1 )
Sheild(Cahrity Sheild)
Statuette(World Cup, African Nations Cup)
You could then have the choice of adding arms to the trophy which could be moved into place and then the colour of the trophy and maybe and option to add the winning teams colours.
To sum up my entire post why not make the edit mode as open as possible to give each individual player the possibility to edit the various elements of the game to their liking.
I also think that a possible community sharing mode like the one in NBA2K9 that allows other users to log into a database to download created content would be a great way for PES fans to have all their creation stored on one central database.
I would be interested to know if the PS3 edit mode could ever be on Par with PC Editing is there anyway to open it up so we can be as accurate as our PC counterparts?