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[PS4] Adding back "hidden"/removed players

slamsoze

Registered User
That’s annoying I was wondering if that would be the case. I ended up exporting everything I had done and started a fresh edit file (with no live update) to get rid of it.

Thankfully I haven’t ran into any more missing players I need yet as I still won’t be able to put them back in myself with the editor.
CAn i ask you? If you export a ".ted" export from a "corrupted" game, can you import then to a clear one without Live updates? Or it corrupts the players?
 

drumbeatvideo

Registered User
CAn i ask you? If you export a ".ted" export from a "corrupted" game, can you import then to a clear one without Live updates? Or it corrupts the players?
Not sure, I expect they would be corrupted. The ted editor lets you change the live update flag on/off though so it’s likely it could be fixed. It would take a long time to do every team though.

Luckily I export every team as soon as I’ve edited them and put them into the game, so it hasn’t been a problem for me. I pretty much stopped editing when all these problems came to light. Will just have to carry on and live with them now I think!
 

slamsoze

Registered User
Not sure, I expect they would be corrupted. The ted editor lets you change the live update flag on/off though so it’s likely it could be fixed. It would take a long time to do every team though.

Luckily I export every team as soon as I’ve edited them and put them into the game, so it hasn’t been a problem for me. I pretty much stopped editing when all these problems came to light. Will just have to carry on and live with them now I think!
Οr buy the seasonupdate2021 LoL!!!! :p
I'll go with experiments in my second profile, trying delete the LIVE UPDATE data, by in game menu and start game with the current Datapack, to check what happens.
 

drumbeatvideo

Registered User
Οr buy the seasonupdate2021 LoL!!!! :p
I'll go with experiments in my second profile, trying delete the LIVE UPDATE data, by in game menu and start game with the current Datapack, to check what happens.
Honestly if I could import my edited teams to the season update I would consider giving in and buying it.

I couldn’t start all over again now though, if the game is exactly the same!
 

slamsoze

Registered User
Nope, it does not work by deleting LIVE UPDATE data unfortunatelly. :( Furthermore by checnking OPTIONS/DATA VERSION, it seems that it delets the ASSET DATA, but the "APPLY LATEST LIVE UPDATE DATA" date is still there,16/07 or 23/07 or 30/07.... So it seems the option DELETE LATEST LIVE UPDATE DATA, deletes the ASSET DATA but not the live update. KONAMI Classic here!!
Did also some qualisty tests and even after deleting latest live update, the players added are still there, like Kaloshin in AKHMAT GROZNY, according to game and pes master list

Honestly if I could import my edited teams to the season update I would consider giving in and buying it.

I couldn’t start all over again now though, if the game is exactly the same!
Yes but KONAMI never cared about the editing community, i do not think they will do now. Unfortunatelly you must start all over again and for sure with 2 teams and 2 stadiums minus.. MILAN & INTER.
 

slamsoze

Registered User
The first "successful" fix i found, using only PS4 console always and not thrid party tools, is DELETE EVERYTHING in data management , from the PS4 firmware. By this i mean System Data, Edit Data and the Edit Data backup. Then open game as it was your first time and DO NOT APPLY any Live Update.

The very bad effect of this is, you loose all your work obviously AND you loose every FREE AGENT, every but every free agent. I checked edit mode, game starts without any Free Agent and you loose the precious old ones like A. Robben , Van Persie etc.. The game database today starts 17.785 players.

So it is not an option by now.....Only if KONAMi fixed it. It must be a simple box tick for them..... :(
 

slamsoze

Registered User
And for the record, for those who ask about missing free agents. Someone who buys the game today, is missing almost 4.000 players in comparison to us who booted it Day-one.
 

drumbeatvideo

Registered User
And for the record, for those who ask about missing free agents. Someone who buys the game today, is missing almost 4.000 players in comparison to us who booted it Day-one.
If you install the game from a disc, whilst the PS4 is disconnected from the internet you get the majority of the free agents. You just miss the ones added in subsequent data packs and later removed again (Ansu Fati etc).

Once the system/edit files are on your PS4 you just reconnect to the internet and the game updates with the free agents intact.
 

slamsoze

Registered User
If you install the game from a disc, whilst the PS4 is disconnected from the internet you get the majority of the free agents. You just miss the ones added in subsequent data packs and later removed again (Ansu Fati etc).

Once the system/edit files are on your PS4 you just reconnect to the internet and the game updates with the free agents intact.
I know mate. problem is i am Digital version! :)
 

slamsoze

Registered User
I’m digital too these days but bought a cheap second hand disc just for this! I got the system file from the disc, deleted the game then installed the digital version again.
hahahaha.... this PES community always find a new workaround to amaze me!!!
Thanx for info pal, i will keep it in mind, maybe i will go to buy my first Disc for PS4 after 4 years!! :p :p

Sadly that KONAMI has no awareness of the market though. The average player/customer is not so crazy like us to go through all those workarounds. The average customer boots his console with connection on and want to play the game.

I hope they will understand this one day, and not make us work in a NASA-scientist level, in order to play our football game.. :)
It is like when we go to the restaurant, you place your order and you eat your food. If i need to enter the kitchen, in order to cook it, then the purpose is being missing!! ;) :p
 

Buckshot

Administrator
Staff member
Luckily for me on my Hong Kong version, I had installed it on a PS4 but hadn't yet edited on it. So I grabbed the System and Edit file and installed on other PS4 where I had the issue with Hong Kong version.
 

sobakus

Registered User
What did Konami do to the game, guys? So much has been written since I last came here... I'm confused. Can we not add new players now?!
 

drumbeatvideo

Registered User
What did Konami do to the game, guys? So much has been written since I last came here... I'm confused. Can we not add new players now?!
I joined in a little while back as I’ve found the method in the OP no longer works for me. I was using it for ages but since DP8 I can’t bring back missing players by changing IDs and I can’t import teams that contain any players that have been brought back this way. I get an error message. Think it’s same for others but not totally sure. So any free agents you want back you will need to find someone who can share a ted with the player exported directly from the game.

I haven’t tested but I think you can still add new players (that you created yourself) by using unused ID numbers. Someone else would need to confirm though.

The other big problem is the ‘live update bug’. Basically if you add the latest live update almost every player in the game gets the live update flag, so you can’t reset them.

Unclear if all this is deliberate (something to do with 2021 season update) or Konami making a mess of things again.
 

philips_99

Registered User
What did Konami do to the game, guys? So much has been written since I last came here... I'm confused. Can we not add new players now?!
Right now, there are 2 problems.

First, if you apply live update, almost every player (even fake ones) will be treated as if they were added in live update, which blocks the "reset" option, useful for base copy for example. It's quite a big deal. I'm lucky because I haven't applied live updates in the last months but most people have that problem and it's been there for a while without a fix.

Then, there's the problem where we can't recover players using the methods I wrote here in the original post. It gives out a error message (something about "the team contain players that can't be imported"), which lead many to believe Konami tried blocking this kind of methods.

These two problems might or might not be related to one another. Perhaps they are trying to block editing in PES 2020 so people buy the Season Update, or perhaps they just messed up. I'm still waiting to see what is their attitude regarding these issues (at least the first one). If they don't fix any of it it might be the last PES I buy in a while. I don't want to support a company with such a disrespecting attitude towards the players.
 

drumbeatvideo

Registered User
These two problems might or might not be related to one another. Perhaps they are trying to block editing in PES 2020 so people buy the Season Update, or perhaps they just messed up. I'm still waiting to see what is their attitude regarding these issues (at least the first one). If they don't fix any of it it might be the last PES I buy in a while. I don't want to support a company with such a disrespecting attitude towards the players.
This is how I feel about it too. If it turns out Konami have tried to cynically force players into a paid update by breaking the edit mode, I would stop buying PES.

It would be a kick in the teeth to the community who have supported the game. Without editors the franchise would’ve died a long time ago, as players bought it knowing the community would make option files for them to cover the missing licences. Without that, most would just buy FIFA instead.
 

Buckshot

Administrator
Staff member
I can confirm it still quite works out, even though sometimes I got errors but changing the ID's to another ones would fix them.
What Player ID gave the error? I know I discovered last week by helping someone on Evoweb that the first 23 66000 Players ID range no longer worked. I tested 70000 and above and worked. Also test with first 23 on range of 68000 and worked. Not sure how many ranges below 68000 and 66000 doesn't no longer work as didn't test them.

Last week I installed complete OF with the Hong Kong game that had all players Live Updated using Player ID Range from 23000 - 27546 and had no issues within that range I used.
 

philips_99

Registered User
This is how I feel about it too. If it turns out Konami have tried to cynically force players into a paid update by breaking the edit mode, I would stop buying PES.

It would be a kick in the teeth to the community who have supported the game. Without editors the franchise would’ve died a long time ago, as players bought it knowing the community would make option files for them to cover the missing licences. Without that, most would just buy FIFA instead.
And the worse thing is that it wouldn't be the first act of disrespect by Konami. Just take for instance PES 2019, when they removed Italia and Spain 2nd leagues. They are really important for many people. Italia and Spain are some of the top leagues in the world and the Master League wouldn't be the same without 2nd divisions. Yet, they removed them and all the Kitmakers basically wasted their time doing the kits for them. They could at least warn them. Also, there was the whole situation where they got Thai League but then it wasn't avaiable in most game modes. So disrespectful to the Thai PES Community in my opinion. I love PES, the gameplay (has its flaws but let's be honest, it's quite good as a whole and has improved a lot during the years, at least in my opinion), the community and to be able to create any team or league I want and play a Master League. But situations like those sometimes make me not want to buy the game anymore.

What Player ID gave the error? I know I discovered last week by helping someone on Evoweb that the first 23 66000 Players ID range no longer worked. I tested 70000 and above and worked. Also test with first 23 on range of 68000 and worked. Not sure how many ranges below 68000 and 66000 doesn't no longer work as didn't test them.

Last week I installed complete OF with the Hong Kong game that had all players Live Updated using Player ID Range from 23000 - 27546 and had no issues within that range I used.
Weird. The ranges I was using were some ranges withing the 24000-something, I was checking my notes and one of the ID ranges I have written down was 24680-24699, but there were others (somewhere in the 24300-? and 24550-?, but I don't remember exactly, I didn't write down everything :()
Was the OF an old one, before all this mess? The ted I used files were "new" (although I don't have the live update bug), I had exported them just to do this, perhaps that explains it?
 
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