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Scripted?

damion

Registered User
I've played nearly every version of pro evo and I have to say I've never struggled on any other version like I am on this one against the AI.

I'm playing top player and I find that sometimes, the crappiest teams and players play like Barce, and other times it's ridiculously easy. For instance, I will be 2-0 up and it's half time, I come out for the second half almost knowing that they will turn into a super team and score two goals inside a couple of minutes and there will be absolutely nothing I can do about it (I've lost count of the amount of times this has happened), no matter how I set the team up, or how many tackles I win, the ball will somehow bimble and scrap it's way to AI players for an easy goal, or my defender will step out of the way for no apparent reason, or I'll try and play a first time pass but no, the AI won't let me. It's driving me nuts!

It's the same with headers; The AI will score headers from all sorts of crosses and angles but I can barely connect with the ball, and if I do it loops harmelesy over the bar 90% of the time. And I've never hit the post and crossbar as much as I have on this version either.

I've almost given up with it and I can honestly say that I've never been beat, or given up with any other version of pro evo but I just feel like I'm being constantly cheated.

Having said all that, maybe I'm just old and crap at football games now :crymore:

Anybody else experiencing what I'm going through?
 

Tsukasa

Registered User
I feel your pain, brother. One of the most recurrent things I have seen my sidebacks do is back away from oncoming wingers, only to pressure them at the worst instant possible: when opposition forwards are right in line with them. My sidebacks then pressure the wingers, giving them full space to play a through ball and... goal.
 

Ali

It is happening again
Not just you.

Some folk (such as me) believe the game is heavily scripted (which it is). Others believe it's not heavily scripted (these people are wrong).
Part of the reason why I didn't get 2013 is because of how obvious the scripting was in 2012.... and I found it even worse in the 2013 demo.

They're never gonna remove the scripting. To be honest, there has to be some scripting.... they've just got to hide it better.
 

damion

Registered User
I also think this clicking of the right stick to make your players make a run is just so ott and a ridiculous amount of fiddling. It's pretty much killed the game for me as I can have 65% possession and my players just will not make any intelligent runs so I really struggle to break any team down, and then, low and behold, the AI scripting kicks in and Southampton (or, insert shit team here) score a wonder goal, be it from a cross, or some sort of flukey, bimbeling, pinball which somehow finds it's way to their player through on goal, from the only chance they have created in 89mins, or some such shit.

I've never been as frustrated playing any pro evo, ever, and I'm really close to quitting as I cannot, and will not use that stupid right stick move to play my players in. Are Konami to lazy to put any decent team AI in the game now and pass it off as some sort of shitty gimmick that we have to suffer?

I am so pissed right now, and not the good kind.

Is Fifa as scripted as pro evo?
 

Sminky

Registered User
Not just you.

Some folk (such as me) believe the game is heavily scripted (which it is). Others believe it's not heavily scripted (these people are wrong).

It amuses me people disbelieve a computer game that is based or logic, ratios and percentiles wouldn't be scripted.
 

Moshstar

Registered User
They don't have enough pride in their work to deliver a near faultless product. Year on year the game is released they quite a new catchphrase that its about freedom of movement blah blah blah & it's just lies. This years is yes a better game but there are more schoolboy errors in it than southamptons defence! They don't have high enough standards & unless Konami sell the franchise & let someone move the game forward it's a game dying a slow death. The bugs kill it offline, the cheaters & abysmal servers kill it online.
 

Ali

It is happening again
[MENTION=167169]damion[/MENTION]

I've played a little bit of Fifa with by brother. It seems to be quite scripted too. You can just tell when a goal is gonna come.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
Ali, you clearly have grown out of the world of computer games. Throw away your computer and get a real life, forget the computer exists... get a girlfriend, be happy.
 

JohnSound

Registered User
I also think this clicking of the right stick to make your players make a run is just so ott and a ridiculous amount of fiddling. It's pretty much killed the game for me as I can have 65% possession and my players just will not make any intelligent runs

I'm with you there Damion. It's as if we get punished for not using the new tricks & gimmicks. It's unbelievable how static and unimaginative your team mates can be even with the best of teams (Barca, Spain etc)

Sabatasso said:
Throw away your computer and get a real life, forget the computer exists... get a girlfriend, be happy.

This only works for so long buddy. I played PES a lot for a while on PS2, then got a girlfriend and played less PES, eventually packing away the PS2, now a few years later she's my fiance, we have a dog & I'm really busy, but I need my PES time again!
 
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Hougangkid

Registered User
[MENTION=167169]damion[/MENTION]

I've played a little bit of Fifa with by brother. It seems to be quite scripted too. You can just tell when a goal is gonna come.

It could be just me, but I feel that not only is FIFA 13 heavily scripted, the scripting can also be really blatant at time, some to the point of outrageous.

Just search for FIFA 13 scripted videos on Youtube. Seem to be lots of videos out there compared to PES 13 scripted videos. I dunno if that means that PES 13 is not as scripted when compared to FIFA 13, but I'm inclined to think so.
 

Ali

It is happening again
It's hard when watching videos to tell the games are scripted. The only way to tell is by playing, really, because you can actually feel the things happening to you, if that makes sense? :tongue:
 

Hougangkid

Registered User
I think some videos are pretty obvious:

[youtube]ArhtJhEaeUk[/youtube]



I've played FIFA 13, and I've noticed the scripting more than PES.

My own worst scripted moment was when I was defending a 1 goal lead, and the opponent floated a harmless ball to the outer corner of the penalty area, furthest from the goal.

Without me pressing "keeper charge", my keeper ran all the way out of his position to try to jump and collect the ball, when I was trying to use another player that was nearer to get the ball.

And the keeper magically mis-palms the ball onto the feet of the opponent who slots it into an empty net. All this from a harmless high ball that the keeper did not need to collect, cos the opponent wasn't going to get it anyway.... :angry:
 

damion

Registered User
I'm with you there Damion. It's as if we get punished for not using the new tricks & gimmicks. It's unbelievable how static and unimaginative your team mates can be even with the best of teams (Barca, Spain etc)

I want them to take it out or PES is over for me, and Fifa just isn't my thing so that leaves me with no football games to play which is a travesty!
 

damion

Registered User
Well after playing lot's more games and figuring the game out a little more, I'd have to say it's the most blatantly scripted version of PES I can ever remember playing.
 

oggmeista

Registered User
I think that's a request for next years game don't you?


no more scripts like every previous year!:realmad::realmad: in the game, or otherwise cheating..:realmad::realmad:..

Amen:rolleyes:
 

framexer

Registered User
i tried playing it.. and i really don't know how some people call this shit as the best version.. it's heavily ai scripted and our players are made dumb, i dunno why.. lots of mortal combat combos are added in the game, but you have no chance against the cheated ai teams without using them. and to use these movement combinations are nearly impossible in the heat of the match.. we are palying game here, how are we supposed to enjoy it while we try to struggle againts a scripted cheater ai and try to do some button combos while in the heat of the game? it's impossibel!! i've played every version from pes4 to 2013, and i can definitely say that this is the worst!!!
NO MORE BUTTON COMBINATINONS KONAMI, PLEASE!!! THIS IS UNPLAYABLE ENOUGH!!
 

ashrafwolf

Registered User
LOL
doesn't matter how advanced pes is with it's graphics and gameplay. IT STILL IS A PROGRAM with human coders and programers . IMO they have done a great job simulating real life football not .
 
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